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Emrys 11-27-2004 12:39 AM

Too Many Miles For Boost. . . ?
 
You know, it didn't really catch my attention at first, but I do have quite a few miles on my del sol to be boostin' it. It's a b16a3 with 140k miles. Aside from tearing the ---- outa some tires in the turns :), I don't really dog the engine too much. So I thought it would be alright. I never really thought how the previous owner drove it. It's never gave me any problems though. I'm getting a compression check done real soon, so that will happen before any kinda turbo is set in my engine compartment.
Anyone else have any ideas on what I should check/prep for my turbo?
And what kinda miles did your guys' cars have on it before you boosted it? thnx.

-Rob

HondaTuner 11-27-2004 12:46 AM

Re:Too Many Miles For Boost. . . ?
 
I didnt really read much of your post other than that you have 140k miles. Not, thats not too many miles, of course :P Boost it til she blows

88dx 11-27-2004 12:51 AM

Re:Too Many Miles For Boost. . . ?
 
if your B16 was well maintained it will go for another 140K. So yeah boost that bitch and dont drive it like a little ----- :P

Emrys 11-27-2004 12:53 AM

Re:Too Many Miles For Boost. . . ?
 
lol that's the first thing I thought I would hear :D it's gonna suck riding my bike to work in the winter though if I blow my engine. . . assuming I get this damn thing in any time this decade.

-Rob

djfob 11-27-2004 01:47 AM

Re:Too Many Miles For Boost. . . ?
 
I figure if it doesn't burn any oil it's good to go :P......that's what I went by and my z6 had about the same mileage.

Emrys 11-27-2004 02:05 AM

Re:Too Many Miles For Boost. . . ?
 
Yea, it's not burning any oil. Engine seems really strong. Only thing that worries me is that I've always noticed a little bit of oil that dirt would cling to in the engine compartment where the engine mates with the tranny. I looked closer and I now notice that I have small small small oil leakage from the head gasket.
Like, so small that about 6 months ago I sprayed my engine compartment down with that "gunk-away" ----, or whatever it is and pressure washed everything to make it look nice again. I've only now been able to notice the oil again.
Think it'll turn into a problem?

-Rob

Ravage70 11-27-2004 03:05 AM

Re:Too Many Miles For Boost. . . ?
 
probably

id get a new headgasket handy

nsxxess 11-27-2004 06:14 AM

Re:Too Many Miles For Boost. . . ?
 
---- my turbo 8 psi d16z6 delsol had 239,000 miles and it lasted a year..overheated and cracked the block..

warric_k 11-27-2004 11:17 AM

Re:Too Many Miles For Boost. . . ?
 
I ran 8 psi on my 262,xxxkm b18a with a slight hg leak, oil pan leak, valve cover leak, and it took a long time before that thing blew up. and then it ran on 3 cylinders, pulled harder than most cars around here. hg, ring lands due to failed pcv valve.

beat the piss out of it.

HondaTuner 11-27-2004 05:09 PM

Re:Too Many Miles For Boost. . . ?
 
Any idea on what turbo/manifold/fuel management etc you are going to be using? Also, are you going to be building up the internals or boosting it in stock form?

turboj0hn 11-27-2004 06:08 PM

Re:Too Many Miles For Boost. . . ?
 
Ya, he's gonna build it up. He was just asking if his stock motor had too many miles to be boosting for no reason. ::)

robs99si 11-27-2004 06:44 PM

Re:Too Many Miles For Boost. . . ?
 
i have a 99si w/b16. i recomend before boosting, compression check 210-220 compression on all four, plus see if your valves need to be adjusted, you know the click click click noise most higher milage honda engines make when the valves need adjustment. you won't blow your engine if you have enough fuel (good fuel management)go uberdata and 11psi and hold on tight 8)

Emrys 11-28-2004 11:04 AM

Re:Too Many Miles For Boost. . . ?
 
Well, the plan was to use an ihi rhb5 from an 88 t-bird w/internal wastegate set to 7-8 psi. I have a friend that's boosted his 240sx & before I learned about uberdata, he was preaching to me about Apexi's AFC...so I already got a V-AFC off of ebay :( I think I might just throw it back on ebay and go w/Uberdata 'cuz I've been reading a lot at http://www.ecimulti.org/uberdata too. Doesn't seem too hard, just a little patience and intellegence. Is the V-AFC THAT much worse than uberdata? I heard that the V-AFC advances the ---- outa your timing, so you have to get the MSD timing retard thing to bring it back down. I think before i spend excess money on that ----, I'll go uberdata.

-Rob

Bizzar 11-29-2004 01:30 AM

Re:Too Many Miles For Boost. . . ?
 
I had 235k miles on my old B7. Comp tested it, no burning oil or leaks I took good care of it. Then I boosted it at 10psi supercharged and drove the bitch to 265k miles. It still ran like a champ but I got rid of the weak little thing lol. First people told me "you can't run 10psi on a D15B7". Proved that wrong. Then it was too many miles. Wrong again! Boost that sucker if its in good health and tune the piss out of it!

87na_rx7 11-29-2004 01:36 AM

Re:Too Many Miles For Boost. . . ?
 
comp tedt it and it will tell you if it will take the boost

HondaTuner 11-29-2004 09:27 AM

Re:Too Many Miles For Boost. . . ?
 

Originally Posted by turboj0hn
Ya, he's gonna build it up. He was just asking if his stock motor had too many miles to be boosting for no reason. ::)

---- you buddy. I was just wondering if he was going to build it up at some point in time, I didnt mean right now ::) I just worded it incorrectly. Bite me.

turboboy 11-29-2004 10:38 AM

Re:Too Many Miles For Boost. . . ?
 
miles are fine if its in good shape, but dont use an rhb5 on a b16, its against the rules. Get something bigger

Emrys 11-30-2004 11:37 PM

Re:Too Many Miles For Boost. . . ?
 
Well. .. I got the rhb5 for free, with a 300 dollar rebuild. . . So I guess it wasn't really free :). But I'm going to use that for now, and all I have to do is swap the turbo for a t3 or t3/t4 /cuz it uses the same flange if I feel like upgrading. I know it's going to steam out at the top end. . .but I'll see how it performs. If I hate it, egh. . I'll upgrade.

As far as engine management goes. .. I just got my V-AFC controller in last night and the more I think about it, I think I might just go w/V-AFC w/MSD ignition retard system. I know it's more expensive, and I know a lot of people here are biased towards Uberdata. It really seems like a great deal. But, I bought the V-AFC already, so I want to try it out. If I tune it correctly with the V-AFC & MSD, will it be as safe as Uberdata? Also. . . is V-AFC easy to tune with, or should I get a shop to do it? I know I would have to have some kinda datalogging & wb02 for self tuning. . . Anyone who has experience with Apexi's V-AFC, let me know. Thnx.

-Rob

turboboy 11-30-2004 11:51 PM

Re:Too Many Miles For Boost. . . ?
 
that ihi isnt worth the time its going to take to swap it out. And a vafc with a btm still wont be as good as uberdata at all. the afc you could use since you aldreay have it as a start, but the ihi is basically useless on a b-series motor. I had the same one on a d16 and got sick of it in about two weeks


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