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vinnyp 04-10-2008 12:33 AM

tdo25m turbo!
 
Before anyone says search i already have, basically i want to know if anyone has ever seen or used one of these turbos
And if anyone knows the wastegate setting that would be good.
Also if anyone knows where i might be able to find information please let me know
thanks vinny.

HMTguy 04-10-2008 12:38 AM

Re: tdo25m turbo!
 
You're welcome, and my name ain't vinny.

vinnyp 04-10-2008 12:49 AM

Re: tdo25m turbo!
 

Originally Posted by jagojon3
You're welcome, and my name ain't vinny.

ok thanks,

ive just found out its a mitsubishi turbo if that helps!

HMTguy 04-10-2008 12:53 AM

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Hey, how about you keep trying to find out more info on your own, like you did in the past 10 minutes. We can tell you everything you need to know and more about your turbo, but not if you bullshit and tell stories about "searching" when you haven't.

vinnyp 04-10-2008 12:55 AM

Re: tdo25m turbo!
 

Originally Posted by jagojon3
Hey, how about you keep trying to find out more info on your own, like you did in the past 10 minutes. We can tell you everything you need to know and more about your turbo, but not if you bullshit and tell stories about "searching" when you haven't.

I have been searching all night and all i have found out is that its a mitsubishi turbo! and thats it, and i didnt find that out i just remembered it from ages ago.

xternal 04-10-2008 01:43 AM

Re: tdo25m turbo!
 

Originally Posted by vinnyp
I have been searching all night and all i have found out is that its a mitsubishi turbo! and thats it, and i didnt find that out i just remembered it from ages ago.

You call that searching :-\ ah bro its 16G cuzz mad spool, did you go to school?

crx2211 04-10-2008 04:13 AM

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Post a ------- picture!

vinnyp 04-10-2008 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by crx2211
Post a ------- picture!

I dont have a picture yet as im waiting for it to be delivered.

buk9tp 04-10-2008 12:06 PM

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interesting...
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1459/64d619eeup1.jpg

apparently its equivelent to a turbo off of a 7th gen vr4 4wd galant?

vinnyp 04-10-2008 12:13 PM

Re: tdo25m turbo!
 

Originally Posted by buk9tp
interesting...
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1459/64d619eeup1.jpg

apparently its equivelent to a turbo off of a 7th gen vr4 4wd galant?

Thanks it looks very similar to the one im getting but the question is would it be good for my d16z6?

HMTguy 04-10-2008 12:22 PM

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Why didn't you ask that question before you bought it?

E-b0la 04-10-2008 12:24 PM

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Jesus, this kid is a tool.

vinnyp 04-10-2008 12:27 PM

Re: tdo25m turbo!
 

Originally Posted by jagojon3
Why didn't you ask that question before you bought it?

Because the guy im getting it off is breaking his old car so he knows ---- all about it, i only paid £10 gbp including manifold, and half the downpipe section and its in full working order so if its not suitable i aint to fussed over a tenner.

E-b0la 04-10-2008 12:30 PM

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boost a motorcycle or a lawn mower or something with it. If it's off a VR4 it's definitely way too damn small for your d16.

vinnyp 04-10-2008 12:31 PM

Re: tdo25m turbo!
 

Originally Posted by E-b0la
Jesus, this kid is a tool.

1. i aint a kid im 21!
2. what makes me a tool?
3. who the hell are you to call me a tool?
4. what the hell has jesus got to do with it?

I really hate people butting in just to post a shitty comment like that, if you havent got anything nice/helpful to say dont bother posting thankyou!

crx2211 04-10-2008 05:23 PM

Re: tdo25m turbo!
 
It's a 7B with a 4cm exhaust housing. It's small. You could probably use it for your d-series, but it wouldn't do well at higher rpm's. It would be a pain to bolt it on and performance would be dismal, so keep it around for a rainy day or whatever and buy another turbo that's a bit bigger. You'll be plenty happy with a 48/42 T3.

Secondaries 04-10-2008 07:59 PM

Re: tdo25m turbo!
 

Originally Posted by vinnyp
I really hate people butting in just to post a shitty comment like that, if you havent got anything nice/helpful to say dont bother posting thankyou!

Welcome to HMT, tool. If you searched all night and couldn't find more than that it was a Mitsubishi turbo... get a rope.

vinnyp 04-10-2008 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Secondaries
Welcome to HMT, tool. If you searched all night and couldn't find more than that it was a Mitsubishi turbo... get a rope.

---- off you piss flap!!!!!!!!!!

Dont bother posting unhelpful ---- thankyou.

buk9tp 04-10-2008 09:30 PM

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i love brits when they get pissed..

they say the darnest things...

lol

thiggyperformance 04-10-2008 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by vinnyp
piss flap!!!!!!!!!!

HAHAHAHA

We should rename/get an emoticon with that name!!

buk9tp 04-11-2008 03:53 AM

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LATER PUDS!!!

HiProfile 04-11-2008 12:32 PM

Re: tdo25m turbo!
 
If you had any skill, you'd notice that was a zero not the letter O. I've found it came on a 1.7L diesel, meaning its probably a baby turbo for a gasoline (sorry, "petrol") engine. But the problem is that Europeans use the intarweb for posting useless information and part/serial numbers, not useful facts or info like flowmaps or something SIMPLE like how much brake horsepower a stupid Astra DTi (uses that turbo) makes.

You're best off pulling the tubrine and compressor covers off and measuring the small/large sizes and posting the data. Then we can tell you just how small that turbo is. Wanker.


BTW why do so many Europeans use the term Brake Horsepower to describe what they see on their dynos, when BHP means power off the crank w/o drivetrain losses?

vinnyp 04-11-2008 03:39 PM

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Right ive decided to now get a td04-11g turbo ive actually done some proper research on this turbo and it looks like it will be a lot more suitable and should flow alot better at higher rpms than the tiny td025m,

Only problem is this one doesnt come with the manifold or downpipe section so im going to have to do a little bit more fabrication.

Secondaries 04-12-2008 01:30 AM

Re: tdo25m turbo!
 

Originally Posted by vinnyp
Right ive decided to now get a td04-11g turbo ive actually done some proper research on this turbo and it looks like it will be a lot more suitable and should flow alot better at higher rpms than the tiny td025m,

Only problem is this one doesnt come with the manifold or downpipe section so im going to have to do a little bit more fabrication.

The td04-11g is still a tiny ass turbo. It'll flow enough air to make maybe 160hp, but only 135ish without straining it. You'll be running one of the PAIR that the twin-turbo 3000GT (Mitsubishi GTO in Europe?) uses, and that's only 300hp at the crank.

crx2211 04-12-2008 04:51 AM

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Why are you even considering such small turbos? Do you have a tiny displacement motor? I didn't see anything about what it's going on. Either way, if you're on a tight budget you can still get a larger turbo that will have quick spool and an actual top end. You mentioned high rpm's and then say you're getting an 11B? WTF mate? There isn't anything high rpm about a TD04 turbo. Maybe a 15g or 16t, but still.

Mitsu turbos are weird too. I mean they're good and all, but are small. Even a TD05H turbine wheel (14b, 16g, etc) looks puny next to a stock Garrett turbine wheel out of a small T3 like a 48/42 45 trim. The trim is just so short compared to a Garrett unit. I suggest you look around for a T3 as they can be had for next to nothing. I bought a Chrysler .48/.42 off CL for $20 the other week. One would think a Mitsu turbo would be more reliable because it's oil/water cooled and comes with a 360 thrust bearing, but even the oil cooled 270 degree Garrett T3's go forever. My dad's Saab has 350k on it and the oil cooled only t3 is still going strong and doesn't smoke at all. The same good things can't be said for T2's, but T3's are where it's at for 300hp> levels.

vinnyp 04-12-2008 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by crx2211
Why are you even considering such small turbos? Do you have a tiny displacement motor? I didn't see anything about what it's going on. Either way, if you're on a tight budget you can still get a larger turbo that will have quick spool and an actual top end. You mentioned high rpm's and then say you're getting an 11B? WTF mate? There isn't anything high rpm about a TD04 turbo. Maybe a 15g or 16t, but still.

Mitsu turbos are weird too. I mean they're good and all, but are small. Even a TD05H turbine wheel (14b, 16g, etc) looks puny next to a stock Garrett turbine wheel out of a small T3 like a 48/42 45 trim. The trim is just so short compared to a Garrett unit. I suggest you look around for a T3 as they can be had for next to nothing. I bought a Chrysler .48/.42 off CL for $20 the other week. One would think a Mitsu turbo would be more reliable because it's oil/water cooled and comes with a 360 thrust bearing, but even the oil cooled 270 degree Garrett T3's go forever. My dad's Saab has 350k on it and the oil cooled only t3 is still going strong and doesn't smoke at all. The same good things can't be said for T2's, but T3's are where it's at for 300hp> levels.

I had a look on the tech projects bit on here and it said the td04 turbo's are good and should be ok on a d16z6 stock internals and all that.
Im only aiming for 180bhp to 200bhp max and i thought a td04 would do that no probs, also is it better than the td025 turbo?

crx2211 04-12-2008 05:16 AM

Re: tdo25m turbo!
 

Originally Posted by vinnyp
I had a look on the tech projects bit on here and it said the td04 turbo's are good and should be ok on a d16z6 stock internals and all that.
Im only aiming for 180bhp to 200bhp max and i thought a td04 would do that no probs, also is it better than the td025 turbo?

Some TD04 turbos are alright, but not an11b. I think the most famous of TD04 turbos is the 15g that came on the Drag kits. It's probably what those folks were referring to. It is still very small. I'm telling you, T3 is the best choice by far. An 11b absolutely will not huff out a reliable 180-200whp if at all. I haven't seen a map of one, but they are terribly small.

Now a T3, even an old 45 trim off a Saab or Dodge or Peugeot (may be 40 trim) will still offer instant torque and will be very comfortable at the levels you're wanting. People also claim T25's are great for a D-series lol. It's all in what you expect. If you're looking for a turbo that falls right on its face after it hits full boost; then by all means, go with the tiny turbo. Now if you want a good solid turbo that can easily make 200whp without breaking a sweat then GET A ------- T3 FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

vinnyp 04-12-2008 05:28 AM

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OK ive read and understood everything youve put which is a great help by the way the only problem i have is finding out what cars (in europe!) came with a T3 turbo, if i could find a list on the internet or something that shows all the cars that have a suitable T3 i would get one but i dont think such a list exsists unfortunately.

b18. 04-12-2008 04:06 PM

Re: tdo25m turbo!
 

Originally Posted by vinnyp
I had a look on the tech projects bit on here and it said the td04 turbo's are good and should be ok on a d16z6 stock internals and all that.
Im only aiming for 180bhp to 200bhp max and i thought a td04 would do that no probs, also is it better than the td025 turbo?


Originally Posted by vinnyp
OK ive read and understood everything youve put which is a great help by the way the only problem i have is finding out what cars (in europe!) came with a T3 turbo, if i could find a list on the internet or something that shows all the cars that have a suitable T3 i would get one but i dont think such a list exsists unfortunately.


b18. 04-12-2008 04:07 PM

Re: tdo25m turbo!
 

Originally Posted by vinnyp
I had a look on the tech projects bit on here and it said the td04 turbo's are good and should be ok on a d16z6 stock internals and all that.
Im only aiming for 180bhp to 200bhp max and i thought a td04 would do that no probs, also is it better than the td025 turbo?


Originally Posted by vinnyp
OK ive read and understood everything youve put which is a great help by the way the only problem i have is finding out what cars (in europe!) came with a T3 turbo, if i could find a list on the internet or something that shows all the cars that have a suitable T3 i would get one but i dont think such a list exsists unfortunately.

Old Saabs had T3's, and older diesel volvo's had fairly large snails. Get one of those.

HMTguy 04-12-2008 04:08 PM

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Merkur XR4Ti

Schwitzer Turbo 04-12-2008 04:28 PM

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tdo4 11g is tiny
the most common tdo4 is the 13T, if you want a decent tdo4h START with a 15T then go up, im using the 16T(and there is a 18T avalible too) and am making 300bhp from a 1500. but im boosting high +1.5 bars.

My next Turbo will be a T3/T34 57 Vtrim or a RS turbo... ;D


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