T3 60 Trim Stage 3?
 

is this too big for my setup. T3 60 trim with .48 exhaust and stage 3 turbine. Stock d16y8. DSM injectors. Dsm BOV. JRC 6" FMIC. custom charge pipes. oil lines. running uberdata. is this going to cause me to lag alot or is it a good turbo. any input would be great. thanks.

Re: T3 60 Trim Stage 3?
 

it'll be ok.........a bit laggier with a stg 3 wheel but should see full boost by 4-4.5k

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so what rmp dose the stage 3 compare to the stage 1? same with full boost, what does the stage 1 get full boost at?

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i hate it when people refer to turbos with stage 2,3 etc. sounds too newbish like they got if off gran turismo. call it what it is .60/.48 done deal.

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wtf you trying to say dumbfuck there is such a thing as stage 1 2 3, etc. get your facts right dumbass. ;D

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that's the way they market a product for dumbasses to understand dumbass. ;D

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I think he's refferring to a Stage 3 turbine wheel :P
Stage 1 is a standard turbine wheel then there is Stage 3 and then Stage 5
Don't remember if there is a Stage 2 wheel though, but I know that there isn't a Stage 4 it goes from 3 to 5.

Re: T3 60 Trim Stage 3?
 

dumbass

Re: T3 60 Trim Stage 3?
 

who you referring to?

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i have seen a stage 2 turbine wheel before.

its gonna be fine for your car

Re: T3 60 Trim Stage 3?
 

there sure are different stages for both turbines and housings, straight from Garrett, myAE86Turbo, you are the sucker! You givin' the turbo ae86 crew a bad name, so don't talk trash, do your homework.

http://64.225.76.178/catalog/t3.html

You can take a look at the various pages to see that different stages have different dimensions, and possibly other differences in the turbines ie. number of blades, angle, deck amount etc.

http://64.225.76.178/catalog/Default.htm

Neil

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a/r's and wheel trims are two totally different things ;)

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lol... :D That bithching is kind of amusing to me

Basically, the turbine STAGE is the size of the turbine wheel. It has nothing to do with the turbine a/r. Why do they call it the "stage" as opposed as the trim for the compressors??? It's simply because both the exducer and the major increase from stage 1 to 2 to 3 and therefore the turbine trim is similar despite the huge differences in flow.
For the compressors though, only the inducer varies for a given major (except the "Super" turbos that have an oversized major), making the trim a good way to size the comp wheels.

Here:

STAGE1 is 67 trim
STAGE2 is 69 trim
STAGE3 is 76 trim

a T3 stage 3 wheel is huge and will lag big time on a D16. Even with a 0.48 a/r turbine.
Heck, the stage 3 t3 wheel is larger than some T4 wheels!!!! :o
If it spools up at 4500RPM, I say it's a wrong turbo choice. PRoper spoolup should be around 3000 RPM IMO.

Re: T3 60 Trim Stage 3?
 

going to a t3 .80 exhaust housing is equal to going to a .48 stage 3 turbine/housing. A .63 would be like stage 2 over the .48

Edit: anyone who needs to refer to their BUMPER in stages, has a problem. I E Yo man i just got this sickazz stage 3 bumper yO... you should just quit life

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WE are way off the D16 topic but just increasing the housing a/r on a small wheel will never be as efficient as a larger wheel. (assuming the wheel size is appropriate for your engine's acutal needs of course)

example: I'm at 23 psi on my H22. Stage 3. There's no way I could get as fast with a tiny stage 1 turbine, regadless of the a/r. However, while a stage 1 turbine would never develop as much power, it would certainly spool up quicker.
increasing the wheel or the turbine size! THere is the question? Don'T sweat... starting from a certain point, you'll need to increase both. and either way, it's the same give and take game for both: BIgger=slower spool up, more flow. don't make overkill choices, and you're a happy camper :)

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ive heard that clipping really doesnt help much at all, you need to go to a bigger housing or turbine to get more flow, clipping just makes you spool up later.

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Yeah, clipping the blades make a faster spool up but you're actually clipping in the top end as well !
In some cases, a bit of clipping is not bad. but IMO it's never as good as selecting the appropriate specs to start with.

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my bad niggaz, i usually have seen wheel trims labeled as ''P-trim" or "q-Trim" or "S-trim"...it's just mutha fuckas abuse the 'STAGE' term around my neck of the woods, calling everything stage this-stage that...including turbos. i guess i learned something in this post...

damn i'm drunk.

but seriously, never really heard of wheel trims being referred to as Stage 1, 2, 3 etc.

neil85ae86 - i've been doing my homework since i was 8, for the past 12 years. sorry to have disappoined you. i have disappointed myself in the process. i have owned my 86 for 4 years and desired it since i was 12. i'm not a bandwagon drifter, for your information. matter of fact, ---- drifting. anyways.........for you....instead of boosting 11 psi daily, i'll turn the boost knob, and run 15 psi for the next week. consider that as 10 hail marys.

Re: T3 60 Trim Stage 3?
 

The main question is if this turbo is to big for the d block. Original post is almost the exact setup i plan on doing myself, i am trying to decide between t3 .60 or the t3 super 60 myself. From reading other threads and forums i have seen people spooling around 3.2-3.5 and reaching 10 psi around 4k or so using a t3 60/63 and 2.5" piping.

Re: T3 60 Trim Stage 3?
 

The basic t3 48/60 is sufficient for a stock D16.
The Super 60 will also work but power will kick in slightly later. It's useless in your case, unless you are shooting for 300HP.