SOHC Intake Manifold choice
which one would you take for a built SOHC ? .63 a/r 50trim/mini ram/cam/springs and etc. looking for around 380-400whp. i read somewhere that the edelbrock IM was made for more of top end while the skunk2 was for more of a midrange powerband. i dont know how true that is. please give a little insight to your opinion.
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neither one.. go with a factory ported manifold.. chris will say the same thing
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edelbrock has a smaller plenum volume, and won't kill pre-spool power. stock intake + work = best route
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only stock intake manifold i have is an a6 one. is it as good as the z6 ? porting ---- isnt cheap around here, im sure it would cost just as much as the skunk2. :1 i have a dramel but i could only go in about 2"- 3". and getting them all the same size would be a challenge in it self. |
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Originally Posted by one2many
only stock intake manifold i have is an a6 one. is it as good as the z6 ? porting ---- isnt cheap around here, im sure it would cost just as much as the skunk2. :1
i have a dramel but i could only go in about 2"- 3". and getting them all the same size would be a challenge in it self. |
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Originally Posted by one2many
only stock intake manifold i have is an a6 one. is it as good as the z6 ? porting ---- isnt cheap around here, im sure it would cost just as much as the skunk2. :1
i have a dramel but i could only go in about 2"- 3". and getting them all the same size would be a challenge in it self. |
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thanks guys, ill give that a try and see how much it will cost. does anyone on here use either one of these manifolds ?? how big of a throttle body can you fit on the sock manifold ? im looking at using the mustang 70mm or 75mm. ideas ? |
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Originally Posted by one2many
thanks guys, ill give that a try and see how much it will cost.
does anyone on here use either one of these manifolds ?? how big of a throttle body can you fit on the sock manifold ? im looking at using the mustang 70mm or 75mm. ideas ? |
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i thought it be cool having a throttle body thats the same size as the piston. O0
found some 70mm for cheap. looking at getting the throttle body spacer, welding it to my manifold after some sweet die grinder work.....45* angle. :6 |
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For a 4 Banger F/I what is the Ultimate Design in intake manifold, yes there will be varibles, but The Principals should remain the same....
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I wish I would have known someone needed a stock z6 manifold.I just pitched one.
I have similar goals as you and im going with the skunk2 +62mm holley throttle body.I went with the skunk2 because even thought alot of people say the edelbrock is better, alot of the better z6 setups I can find to base anything of off that have dynos charts are using the skunk2 manifold for 400+ or the stock manifold at around 400 or slightly under,jfk78 for one who was the first in the 10's with his vitara build,dynoed 442 whp and actualy has a before and after dyno charts using the same manifold an same size t/b. http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1659581 http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1947857 Not that I expect gains of anything near what he saw,but it was 80 dollars for the manifold and 60 for the throttle body.This is a simple build and I just wanted to go with something proven.If money wasn't an issue and I felt like pouring money into an sohc I would be looking at ge or venom. |
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use one from a 83 crx there the best
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Originally Posted by Schwitzer Turbo
For a 4 Banger F/I what is the Ultimate Design in intake manifold, yes there will be varibles, but The Principals should remain the same....
thanks 92turbohatch. :)
Originally Posted by bitchasscracker
use one from a 83 crx there the best
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I thought you hated D series? Faggot
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The skank 2 is cdm junk if you go on d-series there are people that have lost power with it. The Edelbrock is great I got mine for 150 shipped new. If I had not found it for that price I would have gone with a blox one. BTW Chris sells them and also has 70mm TB at good prices.
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Originally Posted by crxvtec91
The skank 2 is cdm junk if you go on d-series there are people that have lost power with it. The Edelbrock is great I got mine for 150 shipped new. If I had not found it for that price I would have gone with a blox one. BTW Chris sells them and also has 70mm TB at good prices.
Originally Posted by jagojon3
I thought you hated D series? Faggot
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Originally Posted by crxvtec91
The skank 2 is cdm junk if you go on d-series there are people that have lost power with it.
edit: Unless you count some of the retarded N/A guys who think your going to stick a bigger intake manifold,bigger t/b on a stock head & stock cam & stock tune d16/mini me/whatever is going to make power :1 Like this kid http://www.d-series.org/forums/showt...ntake+manifold sticks an s2k pro series and 68mm tb with a short ram on a N/A d16 and wonders why it doesn't make power in the low rpms anymore :S |
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this is a pic of the sohc blox intake manifold. http://www.prostreetonline.com/pso/i...BXIM-10100.jpg more http://my.prostreetonline.com/t1807.htm actual Skunk2 d series manifold.. http://www.prostreetonline.com/pso/i...07-05-0280.jpg they look very similar. what do you guys think ? |
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I've always thought everything blox makes is a skunk2 copy.Look at the camber kits,cams,wheel studs,shift knob etc etc etc.The blox is suppose to just be a copy of the older skunk2 manifolds not the pro series.I was actually going to buy a blox since they are 169 new from prostreetonline and even less new on ebay,but I got a deal on this for 80.
edit I looked at that picture better and it proved my point.Thats an older s2k manifold,not the pro series the pro series looks slightly diffrent.but that looks exactly like the older skunk2 you showed |
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http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...63e0e2c966.jpg
pro series http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...0a6d4294a8.jpg pro series vs stock |
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every 400+ whp SOHC car I've seen around is running an Edelbrock intake.
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Originally Posted by one2many
where the ---- did you find it for 150 ? i looked on ebay and no one sells them for less then 297. there was a blox for like 135. isnt blox same ---- as older skunk2 ?
dont belive everything you read dumbshit ! /yourself :1 |
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Alot of domestic companies will sell stuff like edelbrock import stuff uber cheap to clear the shelves so they dont have to carry it anymore. Most buy import parts it seems like a good idea until a year goes and they have sold 5 honda manifolds and 500 chevy manifolds. In turn just getting rid of the Honda stuff.
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Originally Posted by chris
Alot of domestic companies will sell stuff like edelbrock import stuff uber cheap to clear the shelves so they dont have to carry it anymore. Most buy import parts it seems like a good idea until a year goes and they have sold 5 honda manifolds and 500 chevy manifolds. In turn just getting rid of the Honda stuff.
That's how I got my header. :6 |
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Originally Posted by snm95ls
:y
That's how I got my header. :6 I got a holley throttle body like that a couple years back for like 60 bucks. |
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im not having much luck finding one for cheap. >:( i've been looking on ebay for like the past month....maybe more w/o seeing a used one. ill run the stock IM(a6) so i can have enough money to finish the rest of the build. maybe even have a dyno for before/after test. :) |
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Originally Posted by one2many
im not having much luck finding one for cheap. >:( i've been looking on ebay for like the past month....maybe more w/o seeing a used one.
ill run the stock IM(a6) so i can have enough money to finish the rest of the build. maybe even have a dyno for before/after test. :) |
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Originally Posted by one2many
im not having much luck finding one for cheap. >:( i've been looking on ebay for like the past month....maybe more w/o seeing a used one.
ill run the stock IM(a6) so i can have enough money to finish the rest of the build. maybe even have a dyno for before/after test. :) Your going to keep looking most domestic companies dont touch import stuff anymore.Many were unloading stuff on ebay awhile back. It was kinda cool buy low and flip it fast, I ahvent seen any dealers doing that I bought from they sold it and that was the end Import racers are the cause of there own demise and why NHRA dumped them. To much talk not enough buying power or desire too. Regarding a 70mm to large for a stock sohc motor that maybe true but this site is about boost. Now if that d series all motor build wasnt the typical homo d all motor build and had a non vtec head/ported correctly/z6 manifold cut and welded etc etc etc the 70mm throttle body works why do I know we ran 12.70 with one all motor. |
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Originally Posted by chris
Regarding a 70mm to large for a stock sohc motor that maybe true but this site is about boost. Now if that d series all motor build wasnt the typical homo d all motor build and had a non vtec head/ported correctly/z6 manifold cut and welded etc etc etc the 70mm throttle body works why do I know we ran 12.70 with one all motor.
i read where it gives it a more even distribution of air. |
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Never bothered I have found the honda manifold factory a well performing unit that needs to be reworked
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Originally Posted by chris
Never bothered I have found the honda manifold factory a well performing unit that needs to be reworked
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Originally Posted by chris
Import racers are the cause of there own demise and why NHRA dumped them. To much talk not enough buying power or desire too.
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Originally Posted by QikEnuF
Something crawl in your ---- crevice lately with imports man? Just wondering. And do you do port work on other manifolds/heads?
Um no its just the facts. If people would actually spend money on these cars instead of reading magazines all day these cars wouldnt be considered a joke Look at who the #1 race schedule and front leader for imports is now NOPI Ya And Ill port anything And I make my living at working and selling honda parts. Im tired of china. Im tired of 18 year old kids who ahvent builtshit in their lives acting like because they read it on the net the know everything. I spent my whole life learning and still am. Do I hate the honda scene sure do. Do I like HMT yes. Do I like my cars sometimes. Am I finishing my drag car has we speak yes. Are 99.99999999999999999999999 percent of Honda owners going to act like they could of done better than what Im building yes yet they will be driving a stock coupe and crying to mom when it wont start and want to buy a truck. |
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NOPI as in jello wrestling? What happend to NHRA? And +1 on the reading magazines bit, I hear way too much ---- about a Civic with an intake and exhaust beating my dad's car, it makes me ------- sick.
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Originally Posted by QikEnuF
NOPI as in jello wrestling? What happend to NHRA? And +1 on the reading magazines bit, I hear way too much ---- about a Civic with an intake and exhaust beating my dad's car, it makes me ------- sick.
NHRA dropped import/sport compact and NOPI is now the only nation wide saction. They have been talking about for years and well the fact came down to their is no money in these cars. Lets see is companies like hooley,bbk,etc make anything for imports again wont happen. Funny when people ask how much do you have in your set up etc. Anything over 3000 is almost unheard of now When I started and it wasnt so -----d out everyone I knew was dropping every penny into tools,motors and becoming friends with your local speed expert. Now those days are over sadly. The era of acting like everyone knows everything has started and will be the demise. Spend 2 hours on HT and see. The guys claming to know everything see if one has ever tuned a car on the streets/dyno your answer will be maybe 1 in 100. Im sure Ill be one of the last might has well I was there before I could even drive. |
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Originally Posted by chris
When I started and it wasnt so -----d out everyone I knew was dropping every penny into tools,motors and becoming friends with your local speed expert. Now those days are over sadly. The era of acting like everyone knows everything has started and will be the demise. Spend 2 hours on HT and see. The guys claming to know everything see if one has ever tuned a car on the streets/dyno your answer will be maybe 1 in 100. |
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