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boostman101 03-03-2005 05:22 PM

SMOKE COMING FROM BREATHER VALVE.....HELP
 
i ran a search and seen a lot, but i just have to hear it on my own thread....

well, cars been running fine but my oil pressures been at 40psi for a while now.
i also have a oil leak coming from i have no clue...lol
its right at the oil filter but i thought it was coming from the oil sender unit but its not.

then today, i get home from work, start the car and BAM, smokes coming out my breather on the valve cover.....
please tell me whats going on, show no mercy to, i can take it...

im planning to run a compression test also, thanks

SpankedYA! 03-03-2005 05:34 PM

Re: SMOKE COMING FROM BREATHER VALVE.....HELP
 
No mercy is your motor's fucked. Time to rebuild. :-*

tranceminister 03-03-2005 05:41 PM

Re: SMOKE COMING FROM BREATHER VALVE.....HELP
 
Well it's hard to tell until you do the compression test but smoke out the breather vent is a good sign that either your rings are gone or your ringlands are broken.

nonvtec 03-03-2005 06:03 PM

Re: SMOKE COMING FROM BREATHER VALVE.....HELP
 
Bye bye rings *waves*

Spenser 03-03-2005 06:51 PM

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rings = pwned

do the hussle

B16Drag 03-03-2005 07:00 PM

Re: SMOKE COMING FROM BREATHER VALVE.....HELP
 
"You want to marry me? Well what the ---- happen to the RING BIATCH!"

tranceminister 03-03-2005 07:15 PM

Re: SMOKE COMING FROM BREATHER VALVE.....HELP
 
:-X I'm afraid to laugh. Karma has been a bitch lately. For all I know, I'll go fire up my car tomorrow morning and notice some nice oily smoke coming from under the hood :'(

hotrex 03-03-2005 08:01 PM

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the sweet sign of blow by.... dont look now, trick bitch your rings are toasted.

gourd 03-04-2005 04:32 AM

Re: SMOKE COMING FROM BREATHER VALVE.....HELP
 
That's what mine did your rings are toast. You probably broke the ringlands Probably #3 cylinder seems like it's the most common to go first. Mine always did at least

projekteg 03-04-2005 07:26 AM

Re: SMOKE COMING FROM BREATHER VALVE.....HELP
 
yeah, unfortunately, smoke coming out of the breather is a sure sign of blow by, which if you're lucky is just rings, but most likely rings and ring lands. have fun :-\

boostman101 03-04-2005 07:30 AM

Re: SMOKE COMING FROM BREATHER VALVE.....HELP
 
Damn, thanks for the load down
>:(
guess i wont be making it to the track this season.

i midest well start saving to build up my bottom end.

also the first reply said my motors gone.....
thats not true is it.....cause with a simple rebuild it would be back on its feet right???

its always something............ :'(

projekteg 03-04-2005 07:36 AM

Re: SMOKE COMING FROM BREATHER VALVE.....HELP
 
yeah, some pistons and rings will take care of it, and more than likely need a good hone if the broken pieces scarred up the cylinder walls. definitely salvageable though. if you plan on boosting in the future, you may as well replace the piston's and rods with forged pieces while you have it all apart, if not, this WILL happen again, sometime, almost guranteed :-\

midnite racer x 03-04-2005 07:45 AM

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Yea...didn't wanna break it to you over AIM but its your rings. It happens just rebuild and boost it again. You can't really complain tho u gave that motor hell...and how many bottles of nitrous has it seen haha? i think she served you very well :-\... I'll try to keep my motor alive and avenge you on the track :(

boostman101 03-04-2005 07:58 AM

Re: SMOKE COMING FROM BREATHER VALVE.....HELP
 
lol....

thanks Mid.
yeah im not trippen that hard off it tho, just time for rebuild, im diff gona get low compression pistons and rod thats a certain.

also just for my knowledge......

n e one know why a fired ring would cause the smoke to come out the breather hole???

like was that smoke or just pressure/steam.....is it from oil burning and sqeezing pass the pistons????

projekteg 03-04-2005 08:03 AM

Re: SMOKE COMING FROM BREATHER VALVE.....HELP
 
yeah, if the rings/ringlands are broken/fried/toasted/etc., then oil gets up passed them and in to the combustion chamber

boostman101 03-04-2005 08:07 AM

Re: SMOKE COMING FROM BREATHER VALVE.....HELP
 
so thats why my oil pressures reading low?

also thank u all for the help to

jhmcrx 03-04-2005 08:48 PM

Re: SMOKE COMING FROM BREATHER VALVE.....HELP
 
my car has lots of blow-by with no smoke AND sometimes oil squrits thu the dipstick
are my rings gona go soon? ( sorry boostman for jackin the spotlight for a sec ;) )

warric_k 03-04-2005 09:00 PM

Re: SMOKE COMING FROM BREATHER VALVE.....HELP
 
if you're lucky it's just one cylinder.

if you're not, you're in my boat.

anyone have a p8r head?

chaditotx 03-04-2005 10:06 PM

Re: SMOKE COMING FROM BREATHER VALVE.....HELP
 
Nephew had same problem with oil shooting out of dipstick hole... and oil fill hole....
Had burned a hole in the piston.
Happened all at once though. The whole motor was coated.
Do a compression check... It will reveal quite a bit.
Just get a rental from AutoZ@@@

BoosTedZSix 03-05-2005 08:05 PM

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for certian your rings/ringlands are gone. mine did the same thing.

Honda16hb 03-06-2005 01:26 PM

Re: SMOKE COMING FROM BREATHER VALVE.....HELP
 
so that's what the ---- is wrong with my motor, I get smoke and oil out of the valve cover breather. this was when my car was NA, now I'm boosted on fucked rings, no wonder 8 psi kicks like 4.

tranceminister 03-06-2005 01:42 PM

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:-X HMT, alway's helping out the young and the boostless.

boostman101 03-06-2005 06:01 PM

Re: SMOKE COMING FROM BREATHER VALVE.....HELP
 
lol
but check this...the blow bys started to decrease, its still there but its not bad like it was 2 days ago....does this mean anything???


also....i also notice my boost psi drops by 3rd gear...1&2 its at 10psi (normal) but at 3rd its at 7-8psi

boostman101 03-06-2005 06:03 PM

Re: SMOKE COMING FROM BREATHER VALVE.....HELP
 
also for those saying....got damit i wish he just realize its hos rings already....lol

im not hoping and praying its not, just sharing to u experts whats going on....im looking forward to a built bottom end ;D
but not looking forward to the down time tho :-[

boostman101 03-06-2005 06:17 PM

Re: SMOKE COMING FROM BREATHER VALVE.....HELP
 
also....got something esle to share....

having done a compression test yet but i pulled each wire off one by one...

ever wire i pulled there was a visual electric spark at the coil (msd blaster coil) except when i pulled the 3rd wire.....nuffin happen

boostman101 03-14-2005 02:53 PM

Re: SMOKE COMING FROM BREATHER VALVE.....HELP
 
Got a question…….lol
Can the car be driven with fired pistons rings????
Im just so damn tempted to drive the car….lol.
yes im press.....lol

jhmcrx 03-14-2005 02:58 PM

Re: SMOKE COMING FROM BREATHER VALVE.....HELP
 
damn dude are you a 9 yr old schoolgirl?? enough with all the LOL's your car will run like crap and smoke alot i think

Spenser 03-14-2005 03:00 PM

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you can drive it with fucked ring lands, but i wouldn't do it unless you wanted to ---- ---- up more.

boostman101 03-14-2005 03:23 PM

Re: SMOKE COMING FROM BREATHER VALVE.....HELP
 
lol....

i just misss the ---- out of driving...plus folks at tech school smoke the hell out of me on the way home at night when im driving my daily :(

karma_crx 03-14-2005 04:33 PM

Re: SMOKE COMING FROM BREATHER VALVE.....HELP
 
my engine did the same when i broke ringlands on 3 pistions, compresstion test only showed one bad cyl but it was 3
:-X :'(
-joseph

raiden571 03-14-2005 04:39 PM

Re: SMOKE COMING FROM BREATHER VALVE.....HELP
 
cant a catchcan save this from happening?

karma_crx 03-14-2005 06:09 PM

Re: SMOKE COMING FROM BREATHER VALVE.....HELP
 
i think it happeneds when you run too lean and the cast pistions expand to much, they rub on the cyl walls and break. but i could be wrong

-joseph

FooK 03-14-2005 10:24 PM

Re: SMOKE COMING FROM BREATHER VALVE.....HELP
 
i love posts like this because i get to post this

say hello to...

http://www.centerlinemotorsports.com...e-ring/011.jpg

and FYI I drove with it like this for at least a good month or so.

Honda16hb 03-15-2005 12:01 AM

Re: SMOKE COMING FROM BREATHER VALVE.....HELP
 

Originally Posted by raiden571
cant a catchcan save this from happening?

a catchcan cannot save your engine from too much boost and piss-poor fuel management, it just catches oil.



Originally Posted by karma_crx
i think it happeneds when you run too lean and the cast pistions expand to much, they rub on the cyl walls and break. but i could be wrong

-joseph

I don't know if that is one of the causes, but the way I understand it when you run too lean, or with too much timing the air fuel mixture ignites before the spark plug does, and when the spark plug lights it the 2 flame fronts rip each other and the cylinder components a new one, raping your rings and ring lands.

boostman101 03-16-2005 08:53 AM

Re: SMOKE COMING FROM BREATHER VALVE.....HELP
 
for me i know im not running lean...

think mines come for age plus running the hell out of the motor with i had nitrous (before boosted)

i use to empty a whole bottle on the highway with a 75 shot.....lol.



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