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ok well i just got my safc today and was looking over the instructions and man they left me feeling stupid. ok i havent put the kit in the car yet so i want to learn this thing first. ok first when i start the car for the first time will the default settings be ok to at least run the car or will i have to program it before i start it? does anyone know of and easy step by step procedure with pics for setting this up with a dseries motor? if i adjust boost will i have to recalibrate the safc or will it adjust automatically? as you can see this thing has me hella confused and the chart that came wiht it is in japanese so that really doesnt help. thanks guys for any tips...

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Check out www.thedropshop.tv I think it is..

Check out thier step by step on setting upt he VAFC (Same as the SAFC but with VTec) and compensate for no boost, and smaller injectors.

Otherwise, the only thing I can think of you doing is poking around online. I haven't really seen people use it without boost.

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no well im not going to install it until i put the turbo in. i am going ot be runing 450cc injectors and about 6pounds of boost. but im scared ill blow something up as soon as i start it if its not set right

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Well, if you're waiting until you install the turbo and the injectors, just read over TheDropShop's how to.. they show you how to set it up for boost. Then just tune it to your application.

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will it adjust automatically if i increase boost?? oh and i seen the link thats nice just what i needed.

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Well, I used to thing that it didn't, but Johnny Quest sort of "educated me" I guess on how it works.

I've never owned one, only have friends who have them, and from what they told me it didn't. But what Johnny says, it does. He seems intelligent, so I'd probably go with it..

Here is the post..

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...d=1755;start=0

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when you increase boost, to the safc hack it is thinking that before you only had 80% throttle or whatever and now you you are flooring it. basically when you increase the boost with the hack it increases what 100% throttle is.

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hhhmmm very interesting stuff. i think after i get the car smogged this weeekend(hopefully it passes), ill go ahead and do what johny quest did, install the injectors and try to learn it on the base engine, then hookk up the turbo. thanks guys hope fully i wont be buggin too much this is my first turbo project and no one around here really like the turbo idea so they dont know ----. my friends are allmotor freaks. thanks fellas.

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check out what i found http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=137901maybe some one can use this too. ;D

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lets say a drag 3 turbo kit on a b16 with 270cc injectors ( from a B18c5) with a fmu, could i do the SAFC hack? 6 psi off boost? my ecu doesnt have an o2 sensor? sorry for a stupid question but i dont know what ecu im running on stock b16.

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the afc hack eliminates the need to have an fmu, so get rid of it. its smoother without the fmu. secondly, im pretty sure you could easily do 6psi with the hack and thoes injectors, but i wouldn't push it unless you get some biggar injectors. the biggar you go the more boost you can run without a cel. and yes your ecu does have an O2 sensor. the o2 is located either on the exhaust manifold, the downpipe, or the cat. most every car has one, and they are required to make the car run correctly.

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:)ok thanks. but will the fmu help in a way? coz i dont want to spend $$$ for a bigger injectors. plus im pretty sure i dont have an o2 sensor. ???ill check my box to what serial number for reference. ???

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You don't have an O2 sensor? What are you driving, a Schwinn? You *should* have an O2.. I mean, maybe there was a vehicle (car wise) that didn't come with them but I'm sure you've got one..

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well instead of /HACKing with the afc in your case, you could just enriching the fuel patterns with your 275cc injectors and probably be ok with 6 psi.

Jeff

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That was the original plan, but it throws a code out. Thats with 6 check valves already in place.

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which code?

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map sensor! ;D

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6 check valves? jesus.. the most we have ever had to put in was 4. Are you sure they are working correctly? and installed properly?

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Before I only had 3 check valves. Now its 6 but still giving the code. Maybe the map sensor is broken already. You guys think the AFC HACK will work? ill give it a try later. 270cc injectors

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ok its hooked up, what should i set the sensor type to? there is an in and a out option. i have a 89 d16a6. and the throttle sensor is the arrow supose to go up or down? what about the ne-point options? and the dec-air flow corection settings??
1)sensor type?
2)throttle sensor arrow?
3)ne-point options?
4)dec-air flow correction options??
oh and one more thing i had about 3-4 cables left on the apex harness that didnt get connected to anything,is that ok or did i mess up? man this is getting complicated, oh well im sure it will be worth it. please help guys im in over my head here. thanks a lot.
please help?? thanks fellas. :-[

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thanks! thats a sweet site !!! ;D