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hooohaa2 11-04-2003 01:49 PM

Running turbo with no dp or ic pipes
 
I have an Ebay mani coming in today, I have the turbo ready to install, I just have to bolt the turbo, mani, and oil lines up, and tap the oil pan. I have a guy at a muffler shop about 7 minutes away that is going to weld up the dp for it, and I was planning on installing the turbo and lines here, then driving it over there with no dp.

Will it be ok to do this? Will the exhaust gasses be hot enough to burn anything in the engine bay? also, is it safe for the turbo to run it this way for a short period? Of course, I was planning on not even breaking 3k rpm on the way over there... just takin it real easy...

bikerchris13 11-04-2003 01:58 PM

Re:Running turbo with no dp or ic pipes
 
it will not hurt the turbo in any way as long as you have the oil running through it. the exhaust coming out of the turbo might melt a little of your fan shroud depending on which way it is pointing. personally, i would want a filter on the throttle body and a filter of some kind on the inlet of the turbo so nothing harmful gets sucked in.

my .02

turbocivic17m 11-04-2003 02:52 PM

Re:Running turbo with no dp or ic pipes
 
I was going to try that but decided to get a dolly to take my car to the friends house where we welded everything. You can do that or take the turbo to the mufler shop and have them make a small temporary dp so you can drive the car there with no worries. Just make sure that all oil lines are hooked up and a filter is in place, I dont see a reason why it wouldn't work.

Johnyquest 11-04-2003 03:32 PM

Re:Running turbo with no dp or ic pipes
 
I second that, try to make sure the exhaust isn't pointing DIRECTLY at anythign meltable. as long as it's a short trip, you'll be fine!

hooohaa2 11-04-2003 04:03 PM

Re:Running turbo with no dp or ic pipes
 
Thanks guys, just wanted to check before I did something terribly stupid, which I have done before...

turboboy 11-04-2003 04:06 PM

Re:Running turbo with no dp or ic pipes
 
unhook your wastegate actuator so the turbo doesnt just freespool....or basically coast over there if you can, either way

nigel 11-04-2003 11:17 PM

Re:Running turbo with no dp or ic pipes
 
you will overspool it and ruin your bearings and possibly mess up a seal. do yourself a favor and dont risk it. the best thing to do is get everything done and tow it over to the muff shop and have them make the dp.

RENR 11-04-2003 11:43 PM

Re:Running turbo with no dp or ic pipes
 

Originally Posted by hooohaa2
Thanks guys, just wanted to check before I did something terribly stupid, which I have done before...

LOL,

ya maybe you can get a temp downpipe made. that how i melted my fan shroud.

turboboy 11-05-2003 01:03 AM

Re:Running turbo with no dp or ic pipes
 
eh...you shouldnt have a problem , especially for a short drive...i went for like two weeks with no dp

Paperchase013 11-05-2003 07:10 AM

Re:Running turbo with no dp or ic pipes
 
what about having the turbo bolted up for like a week with everything but the IC and piping. meaning having oil, water, DP, hooked up just no charge piping, what damage will that do?

hooohaa2 11-05-2003 12:21 PM

Re:Running turbo with no dp or ic pipes
 
That is what I am going to be running once I get my dp. My IC is on the way from Johnnyracecar.com, as are my pipes and VAFC. I plan to run it for a week or two until I get around to installing the charge side of the system...

I don't see how a turbo would "overspool" from having no dp. The turbine will not spin faster than the exhaust gases exiting the manifold, so what will make it overspool? I understand that the compressor will be slowed down by the air it is forcing, but when the turbo first spins up, it has no pressure on the charge side to slow it down. How would this be different?

turboboy 11-05-2003 12:28 PM

Re:Running turbo with no dp or ic pipes
 
not because of having no dp, but from no charge pipes....the wastegate will never open since there will never be any boost, thus, the turbo spins like a mofo trying to make boost

projekteg 11-05-2003 01:01 PM

Re:Running turbo with no dp or ic pipes
 

Originally Posted by Paperchaser013
what about having the turbo bolted up for like a week with everything but the IC and piping. meaning having oil, water, DP, hooked up just no charge piping, what damage will that do?

to both of you, NO, don't do it. wait until you get your stuff!

hooohaa2 11-06-2003 06:51 PM

Re:Running turbo with no dp or ic pipes
 
Well, I ran it over to the muffler shop, no dp, then when the guy told me it was impossible to make a downpipe with the AC compressor so close to the outlet, so I drove it over to a BMW shop, talked with a guy who told me to go to a welding shop and get em to custom make one for me, drove back and forth between the muffler shop two more times... no dp. It was fine, I just took it easy.

kyle h. 11-07-2003 07:11 AM

Re:Running turbo with no dp or ic pipes
 
thats pretty funny. N/A with a turbo. :)

hooohaa2 11-07-2003 09:06 AM

Re:Running turbo with no dp or ic pipes
 
I know, the turbo was SO LOUD spinning up! It spooled at idle, sounded like a freakin semi.


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