rewelded re-enforced ssac manifold ??
 

I got a ssac type manifold for a cheap trade with someone, don't know if it's ssac or whatever, but same crap. I was thinking with some good bracing and re-enforcement as well as getting all the welds re-enforced, then it might be ok. What do you guys think? is it the welds that crack, or the runners? I plan on running about 275+ 300 max whp on a d16, with a .42 .48 probally. So anyone actually use one of these, or try to re-enforce the welds on these? Or am I just a little off my rocker cuz its so late, wouldn't be a first.

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if you take special care with the welds, and make sure to brace and re-enforce it properly i think that it make a really nice coat rack to hang you coats on.
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I hate you!!, gosh you had me all happy for a half a second

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haha 300whp with a .42 .48

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why would you reweld a manifold. just weld a new manifold up. and your turbo is waaaaaaaay to small for your goals :y

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waste the the money on that crap then end up buying a hf or log manifold in the long run

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Well since nobody answered your questions... I will

Will it work if you brace the ---- out of the manifold? absoultly

Will you make 275-300whp on a D w/ a small ass T3? No

Just brace it good, the material of the manifolds is super thin, so I'd suggest making a brace from the block to the turbo.

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thanks abaz, I know that once I am over 230-250 hp I am quite past the effeciency of the turbo. I was originally thinking 240 ish, but have been realizing that the engine should be able to handle more with some internals, so I am still not sure if .42 .48 will cut it. I have seen 300 ish with like 16-18 psi, and I plan on vitara's and some forged rods,with at least 250 whp. instead of running 16 psi on a small t3 you guys think some thing bigger is needed?

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.63/.60 wouldn't be bad. 57trim t3/t4. You have many options, but even .48/.60 might be better; however, I see that dying out 270ish. You have lots of choices and your current one isn't the best.


JP

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I've thought about doing the same thing with the SSASHIT mani. Like they said, just make a really strong brace to the block and it should be fine...Also, at least go with a 48/60 if you're shooting for 250+whp. Good luck man and let me know how the manifold works for you please.

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250 whp on a d series isnt done every day. There are some major weak parts in the top end of d series motors that have to be addressed before the 300+whp area can be reached. Aka shitty manifold,weak head,piss size throttle body

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SSAC manifolds are OK with a 4-6" long flex pipe at the bottom of your downpipe. Also, in the front the oil pan, put a brace on your Downpipe (takes some weight off mani.

Find a good Tig welder to weld any cracks. The areas around the wastegate flange take the most abuse because of the weight of the external gates. The Runners are fine.

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lucky for me then cause I'll be using an interally gated turbo :) Im gonna brace it and use a downpipe with a flexpipe too

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i ran a ssac for 3 months, and everyday the onlything i was worried about was that manifold, just get a hf mani, trust me, it wil be a better pieace of mind

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yea but did the SSASHIT one actually break? or did you just worry about it?

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worried about it moslty,l only used it for about 100 miles so maybe it whould have taken 101, and i really dont see how they say you can use themn with AC, cuase i chouldnt see a way to make it work

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yea I understand what you're saying. I don't have my AC or P/S so that doesn't bother me though. I know the manifolds are POS's but I do believe if you brace them well enough then they should work fine.

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like abaz said, add a few extra braces from the turbo to the block ( i used all thread on my buddies whip) and it will hold up. Ive seen people use them for years with no problem.

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I just want to use one of these cuz I am not willing to lose a/c or p/s, and from what I hear, I will lose a/c at least with a hf, or cx vx, or any of those. How many people have seen if ac will fit with these or not?

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i went around all the welds on my manifold and it was ok, just had a little cracking from the wastegate dump tube going back into the exhaust, put alot of stress on everything.

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thanks

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when i got my SSAC manifold i realized that it was two differant kinds of metal being welded together with some crappy rod so i had a friend o fmine retig it with supermisle rod and then i braced it to the old AC mount with a piece of steel that i got from home depot. it held up for 2 years and never had a problem at all.

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And the ssac style mani should be ok for performance and flow right? But what about wastegate positioning?