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ok this is gonna be long, bear with me....my set up is a turbo b16 crx with turboedit, i have had one consistant problem ever since the turbo install, i get fuel in the oil, and its become very frustrating, at first i thought it was a crank case ventillation problem, because i had the pcv system set up stock, with the valve cover breather open, and i thought maybe the crankcase was building pressure under boost allowing blow by, so i removed the pcv system all together, and the hose that used to go to the pcv valve no longer has a pcv valve on it, and is just vented to the atmosphere, this way, there is no possible way that boost is getting into the crankcase, so i have eliminated that as the problem, next i think well, maybe the rings are shot, but on a dry compression test i get 165-170 psi in all cylinders, now i know thats not GREAT for a b16 motor, but they are all consistant, and not terribly low, so the rings seem to be OK....next i think well, maybe im just getting so much fuel in the cylinders that its blowing by the rings like crazy, but im running dsm 450's with turbo edit and a plx wide band, i have it tuned decent enough that i get 14:1-15:1 afr's in vaccum and consistant 11:1-12:1 afr's in boost, which leads me to believe its not just being loaded up with fuel...last night i changed my oil and put in 4 quarts, which brought it up to the bottom dot on the dip stick, i drove it about 40 miles, and boosted on it hard through 1st and 2nd 3 times, and now this morning i re check the oil, and its above the top dot on the dip stick, like it has 5 quarts of oil in it, but it has to be fuel, and i THINK it smells like fuel, but its hard for me to tell, and i dont see how it could be anything but fuel, wtf is going on? am i wrong in saying that its not the rings since i still have consistant 165-170 psi in all cylinders dry? im at a loss here, the only other thing i can think of trying is a stock pr3 ecu, stock injectors, a missing link, and an FMU, and see what happens then....but i dont think thats gonna fix my problem, also its only been boosted for about 500 miles, thats why i dont think just ripping the bottom end apart and re ringning it will help, because i believe theres something else causing this, but what the ---- could it be??? thanx for any help guys...

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try lighting the dipstick with the oil/fuel on it on fire to see if it's fuel or not. I dont' think it is fuel.

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could be coolant

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hmmmm i dunno it smells like fuel, but whatever it is it wont catch fire on the dip stick, even a smell amount of fuel like 1/2 qurst mixed with 4 quarts of oil would catch fire on the dip stick? and my radiator is full/clean coolant, wouldnt it be low/dirty mixed with oil if it were coolant from maybe the head gasket?

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bump...i really need some help here ...... :-\

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Do you have an injector sticking open a bit?

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well, i thought maybe that could be it, but wouldnt that show on the wideband?

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before you trouble shoot you have to make sure thats actually fuel in your oil ( which doesn't sound very likely, wideband i would think would show sparatic dips in a/f ) drain the oil into something with a top and let the oil sit, fuel i think would sit ontop, or you can try the flame to dipstick trick.

If that is fuel i'm at a loss of how it got in there without effecting fuel mixture

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i do have dips in afr's between shifts, it will dip down to like 12:1 but it's only for a split second between shifts, i thought this was normal, as i have heard other people say they saw the same thing on there wideband between shifts?

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injector bleeding fuel after you let it sit?

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i think what i might try to do, although some will call me crazy, is burn a n/a pm6 map with pr3 maps spliced in at vtec activation, put my stock injectors back in, retard dizzy timing all the way, and put a missing link and an FMU on it, just to see if my problem goes away, if it does, at least i'll be headed in a more solid direction as to whats causing this, if the problem still exists, i would like to buy a rocket launcher from one of you middle eastern folk, and show the crx who is boss once and for all.... >:D anyone think this is a bad idea, being i have a missing link and fmu sitting around to try out?

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what kind of gas milage are you getting? I would suggest maybe trying a different wideband. but no matter what, dont drive your car!!! youre gonna spin a bearing or mess up your cylinder walls, that much gas in your oil greatly reduces its lubricating properties. do a leakdown test.

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When back in the day I got my driving licence I also started to chage oil on my car. I would replace the oil and filter and then start the car to fill up the filter then would stop and top it off. When I would check the oil on a cold engine it would allways be higher than the top mark. So the explanation for this is when you run the engine oil goes trough the pump and all the channels, when your engine is cold oil drains back thus rasing your level. It may be just that simple.

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could it somehow leak up through valve seals?? just a thought i really have no clue.