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Maxxie-poo, the oil drains from the head to the oil pan - same exact thing. Are you all jacked up on cough syrup or something? You're brighter than this. :(


Most I've seen out of a .60 compressor is 330 whp. Crazy, really, my jaw hit the floor.

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Right, but there are things in there that don't like dirty turbo oil. It would be all right if there is drain right below the cap. Otherwise the valves and other things might wear faster.

It probably is a minor thing, though.

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Dirty oil, shmirty oil. I see a lot of cars that blow turbos and take out engines from the debris dumped into the oil pan that the-o-rectally the pickup screen and oil filter protect against.

Long story short, you put a turbo on your engine and you're asking for trouble.

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So what turbo should I go with? To reach 250whp, the turbo wont be doing a lot of work on a 2L ls/v. Even with 9.5:1 compression.

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Big turbo. Large.

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wouldnt it take more a lot more to make that big turbo spool? I was thinking that with the reduced temps, I'd want the smaller turbine. What do you recommend?

BTW: I just saw Departed. BADASS MOVIE!

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Smaller turbine for the lesser pressure, sure, but Big Turbo. Large. :y

I heard Departed was good despite DiCaprio ------- everything up as usual, but I was just inflicted with the TCM prequel. Good gore, everything else was teh sux.

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so, blaast, with that being said, What kind of hybrid can you sell me? :6

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Hey, get 4-2-1 header and ditch the bottom half. Run the paired cyls to a couple IHIs and enjoy 300 whp.

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Twin turbo, rear mount eh? ::MAd scientist laugh::

Do you sleep? lol :-*

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Yup, 3am to 8am. It was awesome. You should try it sometime.

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not sure, i supplied a few turbos for remote setups but i got no come backs!!!

MAybe you should try a t3/t04e 46 trim with stage 1 0.48 a/r turbine. after that, it always possible (and easy) to switch the turbine housing to 0.63 a/r if the downsides of all that piping are finally not too bad on spool up. i just received a customer's dyno chart of 335 whp using this turbo....it made my day.

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lol, thats about the sleep I got. I got one more hour.

How much do you guys charge for that .48 turbine T04e? BTW: I dont have my old T3 .48/.60 anymore. :(

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To deal with the spool times maybe go with something GT28RS range? But at least on the pair of RMT setups on the Cavaliers, the lag hasn't been that bad. I think he ran a t3 .60/.63 and hit 13.99s on a stock motor and 6 psi. Swapped in a 3400 motor and a t3/t04e (forget the trims/a.r's) and made 328hp on 10 psi and ran mid 12s on street tires. So a huge turbo might not be necessary depending on the power range/power band you want. Oh, and it is very quiet without a muffler after the turbo, I can dig up the video if you want.

Henry

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oh yes i concur! a GT28RS able of 360 HP would be ideal too.

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hmm, would that turbo you pmd me about be comparable to the gt28rs at all?

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new Garrett GT turbos have a new generation of more efficient housings and wheels. They are hard to beat performance wise with a old style turbo.

HOWEVER, the old style t3/t4 turbos have many good sides such as:

-you can MODIFY them with a host of different wheels and housings to adjust their behavior for a given setup (which is good in a "one off" project like yours)

-they can becan rebuilt when they fail. (while GT turbos are disposable)

-They cost around 1/3 what the GT turbos do.

powerwise, the T04e 46 is comparable to the gt28rs. Just compare the charts by yourself. if you see a difference, then ask you if it's worth 700$ !!

http://www.blaastperformance.com/maps/gt2860rs-map.jpg
http://www.blaastperformance.com/maps/t04e46-map.jpg

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thats a smelly butthole of an idea.

enjoy the turboloag ;)

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When the setup is done, I'll post up results and dyno graphs. I'm going to try it two different ways. Twin turbo and single. Twin with two small snails, such as the T25.

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Actually, I might just do the single turbo. We'll see how I like it. :) Blaast, I'll let you know when I am ready to buy. I'm in search of a B16 head right now to throw itr internals into.

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I am sure you will make it right. You seem to know what you are doing man. You'll be the exception to the rule. can't blame ya. i am always trying to do that too.
You'll see, even a failed attempt is more rewarding that going the usual easy way.
Best of luck in that project and it will be my pleasure to contribute to it.

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wow,someone on H-T posted this link for me. Someone with STS actually did a setup similar to what I was thinking of doing. It made some good numbers. O0

http://i.b5z.net/i/u/1473169/f/Press/stss3s.pdf

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ftl

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yah that's Chris in a nutshell.

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I never said the only thing that makes a turbo spin is heat. Keyword in the quote Wikipedia page is "some." Is the extension in the length of the manifold (or whatever you would call it in the case of a rear mount setup) enough to inhibit its efficiency or is that a moot point?

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Yah, and the Wikipedia fags keep deleting the definition of Nig Nog I've entered in a dozen or so times. They obviously don't know anything, why are you turning to them?

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Other than being different, are there any advantages to rear mount turbos?
I can't really think of any.
The Honda motors are so nicely setup for regular turbos. JMO
Erich

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www.ststurbo.com has tons of info about it with advantages and disadvantages. If you do the setup properly there are no disadvantages compared to a engine bay style setup.

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You've never had to deal with the complete and total lack of underhood room in a B-swapped ED chassis, have you?

FYI, CRX's have more room in the bumper for an IC than Civics do. My front mount isn't particularly large, and I've had to cut the STD bumper all to ---- and back where it'd be total stealth install on a CRX.

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Many of the advantages from the STS site are just handwaving and advertising. I don't blame them-they want to sell product.
Of course if you really can't fit a turbo setup under your hood-or it is making it too tight, it is a whole different story and it certainly makes sense to move it remote.
Erich

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yeah i just read through their site and IMO, STS is almost a scam:

optional intercooler, optional engine management (FMU +walbro pump!! WOW), optional blow off valve.... BAsically the kit includes just a turbo, the oil pump, a wastegate, and a bunch of piping!! All the rest is cheese.

for a RAM 1500 pickup truck, for 4195$, you get:

Garrett Turbo
TiAL Wastegate
K&N Air filter and Outerwears DryCharger
Turbo Oiling System
HPC coated intake tubing
HPC coating exhaust tubing
Electrical harness
Silicone connectors, clamps and fittings
Return oil cap
Full color, step-by-step instruction manual
1 year limited parts warranty
Trucks/SUVs and the Pontiac GTO systems now include a free snorkel kit
Camaro/Trans Am systems now include an air filter shield

....AHAHA!!!! WHat a joke... Any uneducated enthusiast will see in this parts list a complete turbo kit and will mistakefully believe that his truck will get the advertised 60% gains with that 4195$ package!!!
You need to click on some links at the very bottom of the page to find out that you are missing another 2500$+ of stuff to do it right!!! :1

Doesn't mean remote turbos can'T work tough.... I'm just saying that STS SUCKS.

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hell yea, they rip you off. Which is why I'm doing all the pipes and ---- myself. lol, but then again, what company really doesnt rip us off for a kit(ahem...full race)? I do like thier oil filler cap-return idea though. I think I am going to try and rig that up myself with a disconnect fitting on an elbow off of it so I can do oil changes easily. I think that is the way they have it, but I'm gonna see if a hose place near me has something like that...

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Jo, do you think I should use that small fmic I had on the last setup or get myself a dsm side mount for the setup? I want that air cooler than 115 degrees at my TB.

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STS turbo kit prices are outrageous because that's the market they focus on. And that is one of the reasons that they have not gotten into Hondas yet.

They are super expensive, but the guys that are buying them up have plenty of disposable income and not much turbo knowledge, they just want the power and have the cash to pay for it.

I don't blame them for going for that market. Even at their really high prices, they can barely keep up with the demand and are expanding really rapidly. A good friend of mine's brother is the CEO, he's a pretty smart kid and seems to be building the company well.

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No doubt. If you can find a niche in a market, get into it and take full advantage of it. Thats what business is all about.

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The exhaust cools to the point where the LS1 cars run a hot side identical to Josh's. I'd guess the intake charge is similar, although it doesn't shed as much heat because the differential isn't higher (boiling water freezes faster concept), so a smaller IC should be okay. I don't remember your old IC, tho, so I may freak out when I see it. :P

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It is a bit small, but tube/fin is good.

2.5" inlets?

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yep. 2.5X5X16 CORE size. I like the idea of the side mount though for stealthiness. :) Plus the air shouldnt needa ton of cooling...but then again, I will be running 15+psi...

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You can give that a light skin of flat black and be stealth.