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HMT-Admin 04-22-2003 01:50 PM

Re:"real" electric turbo
 
The Eram appeared to be the only one that may add HP as well, guess that's bullshit too.. Oh well

Jeff

Tad 04-22-2003 04:27 PM

Re:"real" electric turbo
 
maybe if you tried hooking up one of those hybrids,
with the constant recharging half electric engine, or whatever... then use that constant recharging technology to power your POS electric turbo.


i dunoo... just brainstorming ::)

airtonics 04-22-2003 06:14 PM

Re:"real" electric turbo
 
Jeff,

You had mentioned the idea about using a leaf blower at one time....did you even consider using a gas powered one? It may sound stupid but its a possibility to try. If it worked you could somehow rig the pullstart and controlls inside the car I'm sure lol it would be funny but hey much easier than a regular turbo setup :p Too bad I dont have one or I would try it

ZexRex 04-22-2003 06:24 PM

Re:"real" electric turbo
 
or you could hook a whipped cream can to the intake to use the nitrous or a squirrel in the exhaust pipe

wow lets keep thinking of great ways to waste money and not make horsepower

BigJ 04-22-2003 06:24 PM

Re:"real" electric turbo
 
a purge fan is not going to work, especially if you mean one of the ones of a high eff unit. Realistically if you can fit a furnace fan to mate onto your intake sure, it will make lots of extra power, we have fans lying around at work that produce 2300 cfm at 10 psi, but with the squirrel cage assembly it would take up as much space as your passenger would. Just power it off an extra battery, and also many furnaces have DC fan options with pulse width modulation for quiet starts, 24vdc for most, just 2 batts.

If you want to try a small purge fan steal one off a powervent water heater, they are a bit bigger than a furnace fan and are easier to get a hold of, but I'm telling you it won't puch enough air, trust me HVAC has been my family's business since 1898.

willahlborn 04-22-2003 06:40 PM

Re:"real" electric turbo
 
If you think about the way a real turbo works, and the principle behind the electric turbo, you would understand why the electric turbo will not be efficient in any way. Real turbos spin much faster than your electric fan, sometimes greater than 10,000 rpm (can someone confirm this?). Also, CFM is only one attribute that a turbo needs to work. It also needs to be able to compress air, something that the electric turbo will be unable to do (unless it is industrial strength, and weighs as much as your car engine). Also, see how many amps it requires. Your car alternator usually pumps out less than 50 amps at full capacity. Also, that power has to be distributed to your radio, distributor, battery, lights, etc, etc... in addition to your electric turbo. Bottom line is, your car's electrical system would be unable to generate the power necessary to run your electric blower fast enough and with enough torque to compress air.

Also, someone else mentioned that exhaust energy is wasted power, and turbos work by being able to harness this wasted engergy and recycle it back into the engine. This is correct. By running an electric turbo, not only is your exhaust engergy being wasted, but you are spending additional energy trying to run the blower. Sounds like a waste of energy to me.

Dr.Boost 04-22-2003 08:30 PM

Re:"real" electric turbo
 

Real turbos spin much faster than your electric fan, sometimes greater than 10,000 rpm (can someone confirm this?).

I thought it was about 60,000 rpm, but I'm not real sure.
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Bezerker 04-22-2003 10:42 PM

Re:"real" electric turbo
 
http://www.mcmaster.com/catalog/109/...e/9960kp1l.gif

This is a regenerative blower (thanks to mcmastercarr for the pic). Its kind of an electronic turbo and I need one. The one I am looking for will be able to push 1000 CFM at different controlled PSIs buy using a 30HP motor pushing the fan and the thing weighs a ton, and carries a price tag of $3k.

I figure that after I get done using it for what I really need it for, maybe I could do something stupid with it. Rear engined, electronic turbo'd CRX or something. Since the charged air wouldn't have to deal with the exhaust, you could play with intakes. I'm still waiting for all the specs from the company that makes these things, but I'm sure I'll blow some motor up with it.

airtonics 04-23-2003 07:25 AM

Re:"real" electric turbo
 
Granted that pump would probably work significantly well but how the hell are you going to power a 30hp electic motor?

Todd 04-23-2003 07:50 AM

Re:"real" electric turbo
 
Hey I have an Idea. Let me know if anyone has the materials to try it. Take a cheap turbo you have. Remove the turbine housing. Then mount a sproket on the shaft. Not sure how yet. maybe remove the wheel and place it on the shaft with spacers. Then use an electric motor. The an appropriately sized pulley to get about 65,000 rpm from the turbo. How big of an electric engine do you think it would take to spin the turbo? This would work assuming you had the right sized engine and you would have almost instant boost on demand without all the headaches of building the exhaust system. Now can anyone make it work???


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