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Mo0se 02-20-2008 03:07 PM

Reading compressor maps?
 
I thought there use to be a sticky on how to do this? I'm not seeing it and I'm sorry im not digging thru 500 pages that mention the word "compressor map".

Someone help me out here. Anyone have a link or...

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1585/untitled15lj.jpg

Someone please explain this to me, I want to know how to calculate for future references not just a # answer. I need to know the max PSI I can run on my hx-35 while staying in the 76% eff range (thats the island thats ideal, correct?)

Explain it like you would to a retard, i can be a little slow.

Sorry, I feel like such a noob. Flame on.

HMTguy 02-20-2008 03:13 PM

Re: Reading compressor maps?
 
PR is ratio of boost pressure to atmospheric.

It looks like the highest point on the 76% island is at a PR of about 2.35.

2.35 * 14.7 = 34.5 psi

That's just talking about boost pressure, you still have to account for the amount of air being moved.

You don't need to stay in the center island to make good power.

Mo0se 02-20-2008 03:16 PM

Re: Reading compressor maps?
 
jon do u mind if i hit you up on aim? I dont want to clutter this post w/ back n forth answers. I still have some things to clear up.

HMTguy 02-20-2008 03:18 PM

Re: Reading compressor maps?
 
I'm not home now so I won't get the messages

Inquisition 02-20-2008 07:20 PM

Re: Reading compressor maps?
 
www.not2fast.com

Compressor efficiency is over rated. Don't worry about it much. You can see how little compressor efficiency matters using the calc on not2fast and varying the compressor efficiency and pressure. You will see running the lowest pressure possible is way better than running at 60% compressor efficiency.

Slo_crx1 02-20-2008 07:44 PM

Re: Reading compressor maps?
 

Originally Posted by jagojon3
PR is ratio of boost pressure to atmospheric.

It looks like the highest point on the 76% island is at a PR of about 2.35.

2.35 * 14.7 = 34.5 psi

That's just talking about boost pressure, you still have to account for the amount of air being moved.

You don't need to stay in the center island to make good power.

I think that should be 34.5psi minus atmospheric pressure. I always thought it was pressure absolute listed on compressor maps...

Inquisition 02-20-2008 08:40 PM

Re: Reading compressor maps?
 
1.0 PR = atmospheric pressure or 14.7psi absolute
2.0 PR = 14.7psi above atmospheric pressure or 29.4psi absolute

So 2.35 PR is 34.5 psi absolute or 19.845 psi gauge.

rprznt 02-21-2008 02:44 AM

Re: Reading compressor maps?
 
ok
its easy, i have an ms excel turbo calculator i wrote a while ago to calc this ---- out, and it has heaps of special features and other stuff too. if you want it email me and pm me.

otherwise...

y axis is the pressure ratio generated by the compressor, which jago already said.
x axis is the mass airflow from the compressor, in lbs/min
here's how to convert it.


Originally Posted by rprznt
listen up good noobs, this is the good ----.

works in ideal conditions at sea level. (close enough for hmt)

cfm * 0.069 = lbs/min

lbs/min * 14.49275 = cfm.

so...

100 cfm = 6.9 lbs/min
100 lbs/min = 1449.3 cfm.


hope this helps

Schwitzer Turbo 02-21-2008 05:20 AM

Re: Reading compressor maps?
 
Have you guys ever come across a Turbo, you get the Compressor map and it says its only good for 1.5 bar boost. but it makes postive power all the way to 2.2 bars.

Is this a Common occurance in the turbo world?

Slo_crx1 02-21-2008 08:21 PM

Re: Reading compressor maps?
 

Originally Posted by Inquisition
1.0 PR = atmospheric pressure or 14.7psi absolute
2.0 PR = 14.7psi above atmospheric pressure or 29.4psi absolute

So 2.35 PR is 34.5 psi absolute or 19.845 psi gauge.

Ok, I was right...Jago had me confused there for a second.


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