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soontobeDA 05-06-2006 10:29 PM

problems boring injector seals
 
using my dremel and a spare im...it just doesnt bore...
when i speed it up all it does is smoke up and melt the inside

now on 1 seal its 1/2 bored and the other half is bored less
not a smooth bore like the guide

someone pelase help
i can go as far as sending the injectors seals out usps pioarity and pay for return pioarty too

thx

HMTguy 05-06-2006 10:49 PM

Re: problems boring injector seals
 

Originally Posted by soontobeDA
using my dremel and a spare im...it just doesnt bore...
when i speed it up all it does is smoke up and melt the inside

now on 1 seal its 1/2 bored and the other half is bored less
not a smooth bore like the guide

someone pelase help
i can go as far as sending the injectors seals out usps pioarity and pay for return pioarty too

thx

The smoke is the rubber that used to be there, it's working. If you really want pm me and I'll do them for you.

Widebody 05-06-2006 11:46 PM

Re: problems boring injector seals
 
if you didnt, flip them inside out so you can really see what ur doing. I used a bench grinder and the seal over my finger. I dont recommend it b/c of saftey but i did it :)

Tom-Guy 05-07-2006 02:04 AM

Re: problems boring injector seals
 
I've yet to see "bored" injector seals that didn't turn out shitty.

Fit the seal over a Dremel sand paper drum, and lightly spin the outside of the seal against sandpaper or smooth concrete. Amazingly, you remove a balanced amount of material. Instead of flailing around with your dickbeaters trying to halfass the re-bore so that they fit DSM 450cc correctly, you just put a slight taper on the outside of the o-ring so that it can't help but make a good seal.

chiman72 05-07-2006 03:09 AM

Re: problems boring injector seals
 
use the sanding bit wit the heavier grit. On my they went about half way and then the same problem accured or the seal would just spin around. At this point take the seal out of the IM and flip it around and start grinding from the other side.

1991civicsi 05-07-2006 02:24 PM

Re: problems boring injector seals
 
Is it true that Zdyne sells the seals? I thought I read it somewhere. Anyway, I used a grinder and kept on checking for propper fittment.

boosted_b16 05-07-2006 02:58 PM

Re: problems boring injector seals
 
i just used a cordless drill and some big drill bits, held the seal with my fingers and went through the inside of it a few times with large drill bits, they turned out perfect...

soontobeDA 05-08-2006 01:08 AM

Re: problems boring injector seals
 
here is the one i did that wasnt evenly bored

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...e/IMG_0057.jpg
imma go try the sandpaper trick tomaro to bore the outside of the seal down

ifly87 05-08-2006 11:56 AM

Re: problems boring injector seals
 
I stuck those seals inside a socket and stuck the socket in a vise, so they were pretty loose fitting inside (Just enough to hold it) and used the dremel, then stuck that same seal in a smaller socket, and did it again, they turned out perfect (except for the one that snapped but I used it anyway and it doesnt leak). If you ---- it up you can buy new seals at napa for $10 and they come with o-rings for the top of the injectors and those little plastic spacers that hold them from the fuel rail.

http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/upl...77cd4d59d1.jpg

http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/upl...6ed6cdc339.jpg

Cray91 05-08-2006 12:35 PM

Re: problems boring injector seals
 
wow, you gouys have problems with this.

I can give you a couple tips. Whoever has the green-ish seals, (NAPA?) they are way firmer than the black OE ones.

I hold the seal with 4 finres around the outside while I bore out the center with a dremel sanding drum. Hasn't failed me yet. They turn out great every time.

Put the seals in the freezer b4 you do it. It helps it hold its shape as it heats up
Work on all 4 at once, cycle em so that they cool down and are not as soft
Check the size on the injector often so you don't go too far
Start with the green ones they are the best
If you can't hold em, put em in an IM with some RTV to hold it

Mo0se 05-08-2006 01:22 PM

Re: problems boring injector seals
 
I tried boring out my first set of seals, and they were warped with uneven sanding. Then I got smart... bought a THIN $0.78 boxcutter knife, extended out the blade. Take the blade and place it at a 30 degree angle inside the seal. take the knife and rotate it about the inside of the seal w/ slow, light but even pressure. it'll take that lip right off and not warp the seals. you also have more control over how much is removed. You'll see thin layers being removed, similiar to putting an eraser in a pencil sharpener. take less than 5 mins per seal. Follow?

Tom-Guy 05-08-2006 03:09 PM

Re: problems boring injector seals
 
Grinding the outside is still the easiest; you don't have to stop and test fit if you taper.

0b00st0 05-08-2006 03:34 PM

Re: problems boring injector seals
 

JD, your idea is the best yet. I'll have to try that the next time. My TT injectors came with the right size seals, but he doesn't seel them anymore. I heard that those injectors have failed on people. We'll see ;D




soontobeDA 05-09-2006 12:42 AM

Re: problems boring injector seals
 
wow am such a dumbass
heh

did the sandpaper thingy
each seal took 30 seconds:)

thanks alot guys

Bizzar 05-10-2006 06:38 PM

Re: problems boring injector seals
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Grinding the outside is still the easiest; you don't have to stop and test fit if you taper.

O0

My write up http://www.d-series.org/forums/showthread.php?t=7216

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/6015/diy002a9be.jpg

jacob_kohler 05-10-2006 08:33 PM

Re: problems boring injector seals
 
Are you serious, its not hard. Just take your time and sand the bitches down with a dremel. The "take your time" applies here alot because you have to make sure they fit snug on the injector and then within the port.


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