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has anyone had trouble trying to take that ---- off. ive been trying for the past hour and a half and that ---- isnt budging. any tricks to this ----. im about to give up and find someone to take it off for me so i can rotate my center section.

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ehhh ---- it wasnt working. so i started bangin on it with a hammer and the center section came free and i rotated it and put it back together. now its right where i want it. but the shaft doesnt spin so freely anymore its kinda rough. u think it still works???? should i slap it on and find out??? if so still gotta wait to get my return line from steve. but uhh if not does anybody got a t3 with the standard t3 flange on it. not the retarded looking one. with the oil feed and and return pointing up and down if i was to put it on a std manifold.

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That doesn't sound good. You may have bent the shaft. I'm no turbo guru, but if it is scraping, I don't think you want to use it.

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think its bent???hmmmm im gonna take some time to clean it. if not i guess ill look for a new turbo

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yo,
go buy some circlip plyers man!

its a tool made specifically to take off circlips,
and the ones on turbos can be gigantic, so you really need that tool, and a big one even.
they should come with various attachments to fit your clip properly.

read this for the 14b
http://www.vfaq.com/mods/Turbo-rebuild.html

i'd say, take it apart properly, then make sure you reassemble it again so you know its assembled properly.

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yeah i went to go buy it already. but that ---- was stuck or something...but whatever though me and my pops took it off with those pliers. maybe it was just me n ----. but got it all out cleaned it out. it was hella coked up on that lil cap behind the exhaust fin. cleaned that ---- out. that shits hella hard. no my turbo spin's hella free. i likes now. and to think i needed a new turbo. but who knows. thanks for the replies guys.

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Hope you marked the wheel before you took it apart...

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why do u say that??? i dont think it matters on this particular turbo. cause i u cant even take the center section apart. i dont know i could be wrong. but from what i saw it should be cool. im sure plenty of people have taken it apart and not marked it and came out cool when they put it back together

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They shave material from the wheel to balance everything. Imagine driving your car with one wheel unbalanced by 1oz. You're going to feel it at 65mph (~920rpm). Now imagine your turbo spinning at 90,000rpm or so, and being off by... any amount. :o

I'm sure some people have taken their turbos apart without marking everything, but then they may have wondered why they blew up so quick too...

I'm not saying it definately will (who knows, maybe you put it back like it was anyway?), I'm just saying it ain't a good idea. My .02 and nothing more. :)

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aww man...haha ur starting to put some doubt in my mind that this ---- is fucked up. what should i do? cause all mine consisted of was just the center section and the turbine wheel and i just took out the compressor side and put it back in. i didnt see what i should mark. it really didnt consist of anything. let me know man

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but then again???if u mark it and put it back on??what do people do when they rotate the center section??? wouldnt that mean it wouldnt line up??.. i dont know what im talking about haha it was just a thought that came into my mind after my last post

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It doesn't matter where it is relative to the center section. The wheel should be tightened to exactly the same spot relative to the shaft (and other wheel). You'd need to mark the wheel and shaft so you could line them back up. That way, if you do it right, everything is more or less balanced like it was when it left the factory.

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oh i kinda get what your trying to tell me. so the wheels should be where they were when they came from factory. yeah i think i get it its just hard for me to explain haha...thanks bro

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err but ---- what am i supposed to do now haha i took that bitch off and put it back togther???

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NP. I'd probably take it to a shop for balancing before using it.

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if u didnt take the fins off their should be no need for rebalancing.if u only moved the center section you should be ok.

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One of us isn't understanding him...

Did you remove the wheel from the shaft or not? I was assuming you did this to clean behind it. If you didn't remove the wheel, you are fine. If you did, you are probably screwed.

Has anyone removed a wheel and put it back without balancing or marking it? Care to share how long the turbo lasted?

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I'm no turbo expert neither but if this was that serious (i'm not saying it's not), what would happen if you had a slightly chipped fin (which isn't so uncommon on used turbos). That alone would throw off the ballance on the fins and you'd think the turbo wouldn't be good anymore but people seem to keep using them for long periods...

*shrug* I dunno but I just thought it was a good thing to mention

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I'm not either ;)

I just know that it is SUPPOSED to be balanced when it is put together. And at those kinds of speeds, it makes sense. That is why I'd love to hear stories from people who have torn them down and put them back without balancing.

FWIW, those wheels are light, and the fins are extremely thin, meaning any little chip would be negligible, especially since the chips are usually ------ out somewhat across the wheel. One large chip might be another matter. But when it is balanced, the material is taken out of the back of the wheel (at least on the one I've looked at), and there can be quite a bit of material taken out - because it is so light I guess. So I don't think a tiny chip in one of those fins would make a huge difference - not good, but not a catastrophy.

I don't know. If he wants to be a ginuea pig, he can always just slap it on and see what happens! :)

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Well, if anyone wants another guinea pig, I can try it later too. :P I bought a 14b that came damaged in the mail. I believe the cold side housing is bent. But I can always just throw a good one off of my new 14b coming. I know the fins are bent and some are chipped because of the impact from being dropped. I've taken it all apart already so i'm sure it's not ballanced anymore. It's useless anyway so hey, mabye i'll throw it on and see how it works for you guys. :)

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oh ----...hmm i wonder if theres a shop anywhere near central cali where i can get this pos balanced.... any of u guys know???fresno bakersfield area....