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superjunprelude 11-26-2005 05:42 PM

(pics)just got done wtih my f22a turbo dsm set up but why am i boosting 16psi?
 
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hi guys i just got done doin my turbo dsm set up install on my prelude with a f22a1 every thing is stock rite now like i didnt do anything else but put in the dsm injectors , dsm manifold,14b turbo,h23 intake manifold, jdm h22a lsd tranny,and front mount intercooler. every thing is on the car except im running open o2 housing rite now and when i go to wide open throttle the turbo boost starts to rise to 15-16 psi on like 5200 rpm! so i stop driving it .. now i was wondering why its boosting soo high so guys let me know what can it be thanks

ps i thought 14b boost at 7-8 psi ?


Well heres some pics of my set up pretty much done just needs down pipe made and dyno tune when i get some cash and install my turbo timer also thanks alot for help to:

LSD Motorsports - for helping me wtih the intercooler piping layout and shipping me the intercooler hehe at mid night service lol thanks alot man great service

Mwinkle for helping me with the boosting problems

and my boy roland for helping me with the ecu problems

and midniteracer for my ecu socketing service

dont laugh its kinda ugly rite now but yea i have bunch of other stuff i will add in a week so ill keep you guys updated ;D
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SmokeShank 11-26-2005 05:50 PM

Re: just got done wtih my f22a turbo dsm set up but why am i boosting 16psi?
 
your either creeping, or your wastegate is binding/bad/doesnt work right

superjunprelude 11-26-2005 05:54 PM

Re: just got done wtih my f22a turbo dsm set up but why am i boosting 16psi?
 

Originally Posted by SmokeShank
your either creeping, or your wastegate is binding/bad/doesnt work right

what do you mean by creeping? and also how do i know that the waste gate is bad wat are the symptom thanks guys

djfob 11-26-2005 05:57 PM

Re: just got done wtih my f22a turbo dsm set up but why am i boosting 16psi?
 
make sure the wastegate isn't seized shut and check the vacuum going to it

superjunprelude 11-26-2005 06:02 PM

Re: just got done wtih my f22a turbo dsm set up but why am i boosting 16psi?
 

Originally Posted by djfob
make sure the wastegate isn't seized shut and check the vacuum going to it

how do i check vaccum goin to it?

Reddy 11-26-2005 06:31 PM

Re: just got done wtih my f22a turbo dsm set up but why am i boosting 16psi?
 

Originally Posted by superjunprelude

Originally Posted by SmokeShank
your either creeping, or your wastegate is binding/bad/doesnt work right

what do you mean by creeping? and also how do i know that the waste gate is bad wat are the symptom thanks guys


The symptoms of a creeping wastegate is hitting 16psi off a 14B. The boost is "creeping" higher than what the wastegate spring is set to.

superjunprelude 11-26-2005 06:36 PM

Re: just got done wtih my f22a turbo dsm set up but why am i boosting 16psi?
 

Originally Posted by Whitey

Originally Posted by superjunprelude

Originally Posted by SmokeShank
your either creeping, or your wastegate is binding/bad/doesnt work right

what do you mean by creeping? and also how do i know that the waste gate is bad wat are the symptom thanks guys


The symptoms of a creeping wastegate is hitting 16psi off a 14B. The boost is "creeping" higher than what the wastegate spring is set to.



so that means my wastegate is bad then rite ?

Reddy 11-26-2005 06:51 PM

Re: just got done wtih my f22a turbo dsm set up but why am i boosting 16psi?
 

Originally Posted by superjunprelude
so that means my wastegate is bad then rite ?


Possibly. It should be the first thing you check.

con 11-26-2005 07:08 PM

Re: just got done wtih my f22a turbo dsm set up but why am i boosting 16psi?
 
14b wastegates have a diaphram(SP) that leak when up there in age, I have seen a couple at work.

stillnoturbo 11-26-2005 08:38 PM

Re: just got done wtih my f22a turbo dsm set up but why am i boosting 16psi?
 
do you really have jun parts on your dsm boosting lude?

B16MIKE 11-26-2005 10:24 PM

Re: just got done wtih my f22a turbo dsm set up but why am i boosting 16psi?
 
also what are you using for engine mangement???

Wink1018 11-26-2005 10:35 PM

Re: just got done wtih my f22a turbo dsm set up but why am i boosting 16psi?
 

Originally Posted by superjunprelude
hi guys i just got done doin my turbo dsm set up install on my prelude with a f22a1 every thing is stock rite now like i didnt do anything else but put in the dsm injectors , dsm manifold,14b turbo,h23 intake manifold, jdm h22a lsd tranny,and front mount intercooler. every thing is on the car except im running open o2 housing rite now and when i go to wide open throttle the turbo boost starts to rise to 15-16 psi on like 5200 rpm! so i stop driving it .. now i was wondering why its boosting soo high so guys let me know what can it be thanks

ps i thought 14b boost at 7-8 psi ?


Check your wastegate and hoses. I have a brake bleeder vacuum pump that can be used to supply pressure on a dead head system like a wastegate actuator. Pull the hose off of your vac/boost source and pressurize the hose. The actuator should start opening up at 5-8 psi of pressure. if not something is keeping the valve closed against the port. If pressure doesn't build, or it bleeds off really fast, then the diaphram within the actuator assembly is torn.

Another thing to check is your vac/boost connection. Where is yours located? Directly to the manifold? From the turbo's compressor's housing? Those are the two best sources to get the signal from. if you have it hooked up to the brake booster hoses/lines, then you chance haveing a problem with a check valve within that series of lines. If the actutor can't see boost, then the turbo will continue to built pressure because it has no way of venting the extra exhaust around the turbine wheel. The best thing is to use a dedicated line for just the wastegate actuator from the before mentioned sources.

Good luck and let us know what you find,


Wink

superjunprelude 11-27-2005 03:10 AM

Re: just got done wtih my f22a turbo dsm set up but why am i boosting 16psi?
 

Originally Posted by Wink1018

Originally Posted by superjunprelude
hi guys i just got done doin my turbo dsm set up install on my prelude with a f22a1 every thing is stock rite now like i didnt do anything else but put in the dsm injectors , dsm manifold,14b turbo,h23 intake manifold, jdm h22a lsd tranny,and front mount intercooler. every thing is on the car except im running open o2 housing rite now and when i go to wide open throttle the turbo boost starts to rise to 15-16 psi on like 5200 rpm! so i stop driving it .. now i was wondering why its boosting soo high so guys let me know what can it be thanks

ps i thought 14b boost at 7-8 psi ?


Check your wastegate and hoses. I have a brake bleeder vacuum pump that can be used to supply pressure on a dead head system like a wastegate actuator. Pull the hose off of your vac/boost source and pressurize the hose. The actuator should start opening up at 5-8 psi of pressure. if not something is keeping the valve closed against the port. If pressure doesn't build, or it bleeds off really fast, then the diaphram within the actuator assembly is torn.

Another thing to check is your vac/boost connection. Where is yours located? Directly to the manifold? From the turbo's compressor's housing? Those are the two best sources to get the signal from. if you have it hooked up to the brake booster hoses/lines, then you chance haveing a problem with a check valve within that series of lines. If the actutor can't see boost, then the turbo will continue to built pressure because it has no way of venting the extra exhaust around the turbine wheel. The best thing is to use a dedicated line for just the wastegate actuator from the before mentioned sources.

Good luck and let us know what you find,


Wink


THANKS ALOT MAN !!!


this guy helped me out on aim and i found out what its was my vaccum line i was using had a check valve in betweeen it so my wastegate had always been cllosed because the check valve did not allow any vaccum through to actuate the waste gate thanks man but pics coming soon on my just finished f22a turbo

F22tSi 11-27-2005 05:48 AM

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good stuff...

im still waitin on a camera man

i bet u my set up is more homemade than yours!?

Wink1018 11-27-2005 12:33 PM

Re: just got done wtih my f22a turbo dsm set up but why am i boosting 16psi?
 

Originally Posted by superjunprelude


THANKS ALOT MAN !!!


this guy helped me out on aim and i found out what its was my vaccum line i was using had a check valve in betweeen it so my wastegate had always been cllosed because the check valve did not allow any vaccum through to actuate the waste gate thanks man but pics coming soon on my just finished f22a turbo



Glad to help where I can. I may be new here. But definately not new to turbocharged vehicles.

By the way, how's it running now?



Wink

MonopolyMan 11-27-2005 05:53 PM

Re: just got done wtih my f22a turbo dsm set up but why am i boosting 16psi?
 
Get some pix up!

superjunprelude 11-27-2005 06:39 PM

Re: just got done wtih my f22a turbo dsm set up but why am i boosting 16psi?
 

Originally Posted by MonopolyMan
Get some pix up!

bump its up now guys let me know what you guys think dont worry my exterior is goin to be better in a week just havent had time

robs99si 11-27-2005 07:05 PM

Re: (pics)just got done wtih my f22a turbo dsm set up but why am i boosting 16psi?
 
car looks good, you need to get a filter or atleast a clamped on screen on your turbo inlet, just one small rock is all it takes to ---- up your turbo. other than that, lookin good!

drupie51013 11-27-2005 07:15 PM

Re: (pics)just got done wtih my f22a turbo dsm set up but why am i boosting 16psi?
 
i like the way it looks but not a big fan of the "ludes"

MonopolyMan 11-27-2005 10:33 PM

Re: (pics)just got done wtih my f22a turbo dsm set up but why am i boosting 16ps
 
looks good, you just need to center your front mount and straighten it out.

superjunprelude 11-27-2005 10:51 PM

Re: (pics)just got done wtih my f22a turbo dsm set up but why am i boosting 16ps
 

Originally Posted by MonopolyMan
looks good, you just need to center your front mount and straighten it out.

yea that why i was saying dont laugh ;D but thanks

idiot-stick 11-28-2005 07:33 AM

Re: just got done wtih my f22a turbo dsm set up but why am i boosting 16psi?
 

Originally Posted by stillnoturbo
do you really have jun parts are your dsm boosting lude?

Jun is all about the SOHC non-vtec engines nowadays.

whiterice 11-28-2005 12:37 PM

Re: (pics)just got done wtih my f22a turbo dsm set up but why am i boosting 16ps
 
looks good!
that radiator hose fits great for the charge piping right out of the turbo.
perfect bends.

RedCavz 11-28-2005 01:39 PM

Re: just got done wtih my f22a turbo dsm set up but why am i boosting 16psi?
 
nice but


Originally Posted by B16MIKE
also what are you using for engine mangement???


96_civ 11-30-2005 07:56 PM

Re: (pics)just got done wtih my f22a turbo dsm set up but why am i boosting 16ps
 

Originally Posted by whiterice
looks good!
that radiator hose fits great for the charge piping right out of the turbo.
perfect bends.

thats what i was gonna say too.

matt

traff1c 11-30-2005 10:25 PM

Re: (pics)just got done wtih my f22a turbo dsm set up but why am i boosting 16psi?
 
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...ofturbof22.jpg
I noticed in this shot that on the compressor it seems to be missing the vacuum nipple that feeds into the wastegate... you might want to plug that up if your not using it.... otherwise your gonna be leaking boost....

fyi...

superjunprelude 12-01-2005 06:25 PM

Re: just got done wtih my f22a turbo dsm set up but why am i boosting 16psi?
 

Originally Posted by B16MIKE
also what are you using for engine mangement???


im using 450 cc dsm injectors and uberdata


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