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WTF 01-15-2006 01:19 AM

oi line kits.. different?
 
i've looked at a few oil line kits (honda/14b) and there all around the same price, is one better then the other ?

it does look like theres some slight differences

stealthmode kit: (maybe generic picture)
http://www.---------------------------/oil/kitbig.jpg

cheapturbolines kit: (maybe kit specific picture?)
http://www.cheapturbolines.com/products/108_0894.JPG




MikeJ-2009 01-15-2006 01:55 AM

Re: oi line kits.. different?
 
I won't say if one is better than the other, I'll just point out what makes them different. :6

One of them comes with a block fitting.
One of them comes with a forged aluminum custom made drain flange.
That same one comes with the hardware needed to mount that drain flange (grade 8 too) :o
One of these kits was created to directly bite the popularity of the other.
One of these kits claims hose clamps aren't needed, then sends them with their kit.
One of these kits doesn't have such a hot customer service record.
One of these kits is cheaper.
One of these kits is just what the name implies.


That's the difference. 8)

hotrex 01-15-2006 02:52 AM

Re: oi line kits.. different?
 
steves kit is the best kit ive ever worked with, ive tried them all on various setups ive done for locals , hmt members ect.

fastturbo, cheap turbo kits, whatever is out there.

if your looking for a quality piece go with steve, everyone else is trrying to ride his nuts.


WTF 01-15-2006 03:29 AM

Re: oi line kits.. different?
 
steve = stealthmode? your in MN too huh

mahcivic 01-15-2006 08:53 AM

Re: oi line kits.. different?
 
steves kit has a longer feed line to, no wrapping over the valve cover with his ----

drunkinmaster1 01-15-2006 09:33 AM

Re: oi line kits.. different?
 
how much is steves settup?

Kevinlwhite 01-15-2006 10:25 AM

Re: oi line kits.. different?
 
Go on his website. 75 bucks shipped I believe

Tom-Guy 01-15-2006 10:25 AM

Re: oi line kits.. different?
 
Stevemode for teh win!

drunkinmaster1 01-15-2006 10:31 AM

Re: oi line kits.. different?
 

Originally Posted by Kevinlwhite
Go on his website. 75 bucks shipped I believe

75 bucks isnt that bad of a deal.

MikeJ-2009 01-15-2006 01:07 PM

Re: oi line kits.. different?
 
This month they are on sale for $75, and then they will be going back up to $85. I've seen lots of oil line kits, and there are actually a couple of them that are cheaper on the net, but when it comes to what you get, the quality of the parts, and the price, i feel I have the best balance out there. I'll put my kit up against any of them to an independant tester for quality, price, function, ease of use, ect. All of it. :)

crxrocks 01-15-2006 04:59 PM

Re: oi line kits.. different?
 
Steve, is there a reason you don't supply a nut to thread onto the back side of the oil pan drain like the one from the other place? For the record I have one of your kits but was just curious.

Thanks!

Chris

HMTguy 01-15-2006 05:04 PM

Re: oi line kits.. different?
 
There's really no need for a nut. You'd want to use some type of sealer anyways to make it watertight, and I just used JB weld. That ----'s strong enough to hold the fitting on the pan if you don't decide to weld it on.

HMT-Admin 01-15-2006 05:15 PM

Re: oi line kits.. different?
 
a brass nut would be nice with stealths kit, but jb works fine i guess

NBLKID 01-15-2006 06:33 PM

Re: oi line kits.. different?
 

Originally Posted by hotrex
if your looking for a quality piece go with steve, everyone else is trrying to ride his nuts.


:y

0b00st0 01-15-2006 08:02 PM

Re: oi line kits.. different?
 
I gave some guy at a shop that makes nice metal fences a 12 pack and he tigged both me and my friends. Hasn't leaked yet.

CRXDrew 01-16-2006 12:00 AM

Re: oi line kits.. different?
 
stealth definitely did a good job marketing his oil line kit. Definitely a good value if you don't exactly know what you need.

Personally though, I just do a "will call" order from McMaster and get everything I need for under 50 bucks and am able to pick it up within the hour. This of course isn't always possible so stealth's kit is the way to go.

I used a brass nut and some JB weld to boot for the return.


I think an oil restrictor could really finish off these kits though. I did a lil write up on making oil restrictors a while ago on here and HT. I guess different turbo's need diff amounts of oil but my restrictors have worked well on every kit I've put together. (mostly just junkyard setups, t25's, t3's, 14b's etc)

MikeJ-2009 01-16-2006 12:09 AM

Re: oi line kits.. different?
 
I don't supply a nut in the kit because the head of the barb fitting isn't all that thick, it adds another piece to a kit that you're trying to make idiot proof, and installing the barb fitting correctly isn't going to allow it to move anywhere anyhow.
The nuts would be available at home depot in the 3/8 size.
Everytime I add/change something to the kit, you have to think about the risk of the dumbest dude out there installing it. An untightened nut on the inside of a motor with the crank and rods spinning around is a disaster waiting to happen. These thoughts are the reason I try to make the kit as easy and straight forward as possible, because if you don't, that same guy will be the first to say how shitty your stuff is. I'd like to think the kit is idiot proof as is.

WTF 01-18-2006 12:33 PM

Re: oi line kits.. different?
 
ordered my stealthmode kit like 2 days ago and i get a email from tuner toys saying somthing is out of stock (OTOD?) because of magazine coverage, and my kit wont be shipped for at least a week or somthin.. what the hell?

graphixdezign6 01-18-2006 12:40 PM

Re: oi line kits.. different?
 
Received my stealth kit the other day. Great product!
The only other thing i had to buy was the flange for the feed side because the
inlet was not tapped on my t3. Extra $10 bucks, no biggie.
I picked up one of those flanges with the built in restrictor.
I could have just tapped it, but i was kind of freaked out about
getting metal shavings in the turbo.

The stealth kit would be even more perfect if it included
the inlet bracket, seeing as a lot of turbos are not tapped on the feed side.

MikeJ-2009 01-18-2006 12:43 PM

Re: oi line kits.. different?
 
We're having a sale during the month of January that has put a crunch on our supply of block fittings. Since the beginning of this sale, there has been approximately 45-55 kits that have been purchased. The machine shop that custom makes the block fittings is making them as quickly as possible. If there is ever a situation where you cannot wait for your kit just let me know and I'll refund you. Thanks. -Steve

On the other comment, I myself have only come accross one turbo that wasn't tapped. Because of the extra cost involved with the feed flange, it hasn't become neccessary to burden people's wallets with an extra fitting that alot of them don't need. For this reason we will continue to offer this as an extra fitting. -Steve

WTF 01-18-2006 02:55 PM

Re: oi line kits.. different?
 
its cool, im not in a hurry, i dont even have my manifold yet.

CRXDrew 01-18-2006 05:28 PM

Re: oi line kits.. different?
 
I believe the Saab T3's are not tapped while the Volvo's are. Either way finding a non-tapped turbo is pretty rare. And even then tapping is ain't so bad, just toss some grease on the tap and tap away. Then spray ungodly amounts of wd40 or something into the turbo.

Cray91 01-18-2006 06:01 PM

Re: oi line kits.. different?
 

Originally Posted by CRXDrew
I believe the Saab T3's are not tapped while the Volvo's are. Either way finding a non-tapped turbo is pretty rare. And even then tapping is ain't so bad, just toss some grease on the tap and tap away. Then spray ungodly amounts of wd40 or something into the turbo.

it isn't even that simple. There are some Saabs that are tapped. There are also a handful of DSM T25's that have different drain flange mounting holes. It is really weird from a major mft.

BoosTedZSix 01-18-2006 06:54 PM

Re: oi line kits.. different?
 
the only thing i have to complain is that the damn barb fitting does not screw all the way into the drain flange. dunno if thats been fixed since. but on a positive note, its a great kit :-*

MikeJ-2009 01-18-2006 08:15 PM

Re: oi line kits.. different?
 
The barb fitting has a different taper than the drain flange. On a non pressurized system it's not a problem.

BoosTedZSix 01-19-2006 01:57 AM

Re: oi line kits.. different?
 
its only an issue when using an hf manifold ;)

MikeJ-2009 01-19-2006 01:05 PM

Re: oi line kits.. different?
 
The whole drain system is a problem when using an hf manifold. It's not that theres something wrong with the oil line kit, the problem is your turbo is dragging on the ground. :P


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