nitrous plus turbo
okay so im in the process of upgrading, i want to run a 200 shot plus and turbo. the only thing is i was told that using nos would overspool the turbo, is this true?
is there a site that shows caclulations for turbo size with nos shoots? |
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do you actually own a turbo car? Or even a car at all for that matter?
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no pics no good :S
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im in the process of buying the parts for the car. i saw this site and looking for advice on this subject.
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:o :o :o :o :o :o :o thats just beautifull
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maybe its the beer i have been drinking, but that is sex. pure sex.
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Originally Posted by heavycfms
very nice, have you ever had problems with compressor surge running with the nos?
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:o :o :o
need ripper vids ASAP dirty 4ths? |
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kill your self for calling it nos
stop giving newbs a bad name |
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UM that ---- is awesome...I've never seen a nicer engine bay...period.
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vin diesel says:
NAWSSS |
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does anyone have any useful info on this subject?
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nitrous will not over spool the turbo if you have a working wastegate O0
nitrous will spool your piece faster yes because it brings the revs up quicker as a result of a purer oxygen source/ lower enegry to get oxygen in atom form, but when the turbo spins faster, it creates this thing called boost( consult fast and the furious 1 and 2) and your wastegate opens to by pass exhaust gas which gives you your desired psi and slows down the exhaust wheel because its not getting the full exhaust flow hopefully your not trying to do this to a honda.., 200 shot naaws and turbo good luck with that one, especially with your type of question but most likely your trying to get a nice uneatable v8, which proves the majority of young people driving "muscle cars" dont know dick |
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Originally Posted by civiceggturbo
nitrous will not over spool the turbo if you have a working wastegate O0
nitrous will spool your piece faster yes because it brings the revs up quicker as a result of a purer oxygen source/ lower enegry to get oxygen in atom form, but when the turbo spins faster, it creates this thing called boost( consult fast and the furious 1 and 2) and your wastegate opens to by pass exhaust gas which gives you your desired psi and slows down the exhaust wheel because its not getting the full exhaust flow hopefully your not trying to do this to a honda.., 200 shot naaws and turbo good luck with that one, especially with your type of question but most likely your trying to get a nice uneatable v8, which proves the majority of young people driving "muscle cars" dont know dick |
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your trying to spray a car with a 200 shot and your worried about compressor surge....i would be more worried about how your going to afford the direct port kit, the only time i have ever heard compressor surge is when vw drivers flip their diverter/bov upside down so it sound real cool
and this is what you said "i was told that using nos would overspool " stop trying to change what you meant |
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Originally Posted by civiceggturbo
and this is what you said "i was told that using nos would overspool " stop trying to change what you meant but this is my qestion "is there a site that shows caclulations for turbo size with nos". i was hoping someone would have info on this subject but i guess most of the people that replyed are only interested urinemachines and commenting on terminology. |
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Originally Posted by heavycfms
sorry about the terminology
but this is my qestion "is there a site that shows caclulations for turbo size with nos". i was hoping someone would have info on this subject but i guess most of the people that replyed are only interested urinemachines and commenting on terminology.
Originally Posted by civiceggturbo
nitrous will not over spool the turbo if you have a working wastegate O0
nitrous will spool your piece faster yes because it brings the revs up quicker as a result of a purer oxygen source/ lower enegry to get oxygen in atom form, but when the turbo spins faster, it creates this thing called boost( consult fast and the furious 1 and 2) and your wastegate opens to by pass exhaust gas which gives you your desired psi and slows down the exhaust wheel because its not getting the full exhaust flow hopefully your not trying to do this to a honda.., 200 shot naaws and turbo good luck with that one, especially with your type of question but most likely your trying to get a nice uneatable v8, which proves the majority of young people driving "muscle cars" dont know dick |
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Originally Posted by crxvtec91
Man you are slow.
aka read all the stickies and you shall no everything need to build and boost ANY car. The is homemadeturbo.com not spoonfeedme.com |
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You are a ------- idiot, please go pollute honda-tech with your dumbass questions.
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Originally Posted by brine04
You are a ------- idiot, please go pollute honda-tech with your dumbass questions.
anyway best of wishes to the most of you and hopefully well meet at the track |
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this site is about learning, by a combination of 1st hand experiences and reading, oh and a little ------- brain power to link everything together
it would be nice to have a waiting period before a new user can post(1 month of delay so new people will read before they post) i swear lately honda-tech has been floodin this bitch-thank god everyone is so nice so they all gtfo |
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Originally Posted by civiceggturbo
this site is about learning, by a combination of 1st hand experiences and reading, oh and a little ------- brain power to link everything together
i swear lately honda-tech has been floodin this bitch-thank god everyone is so nice so they all gtfo |
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too much man. you gonna blow da mota
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Originally Posted by heavycfms
does that mean you dont know?
Originally Posted by civiceggturbo
nitrous will not over spool the turbo if you have a working wastegate O0
nitrous will spool your piece faster yes because it brings the revs up quicker as a result of a purer oxygen source/ lower enegry to get oxygen in atom form, but when the turbo spins faster, it creates this thing called boost( consult fast and the furious 1 and 2) and your wastegate opens to by pass exhaust gas which gives you your desired psi and slows down the exhaust wheel because its not getting the full exhaust flow |
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First question you posted was will it overspool the turbo; the post above tells why it will not. Second compressor surge only happends when air is force back though the turbo; i.e when there is a problem with the bov not releasing the built up boost when the tb closes. How or WHY would n2o cause this...... It wont. There is a reason there are no post on this subject, simple most people are not this dumb . You have come on to this site wanting people to answer so basic questions, thats why some have made fun of you while others did not even respond to your question altogether. I said to read the stickies so such post do not take up worth while band with. simple question whitch reqires a simple answer, thats all. For some reason i was thinking that this forum was made for questions. guess its more of a stroke fest |
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Originally Posted by heavycfms
simple question whitch reqires a simple answer, thats all. For some reason i was thinking that this forum was made for questions. guess its more of a stroke fest |
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Wow, I stood away from honda-tech for this exact reason. I hope these dumb fucks don't come over here and waste all of our time reading worthless ----.
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Originally Posted by heavycfms
simple question whitch reqires a simple answer, thats all. For some reason i was thinking that this forum was made for questions. guess its more of a stroke fest so what the ---- is your question? youve changed it 5 times whats the real question? anything other than an extremely well built motor will blow to bits...i do hope i meet you at the track i just hope i get the run befor you do beacuse theyre gonna spend the rest of the night cleaning and repreping the track because your ---- hole ass decided to do some stupid ---- with little to no know how |
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---- off dick head....... i found the calculations that i was looking for O0. no thax to all the douch bags that have negative comments
i hope you find anouther person to hate on. Seems like thats all this forum is good for, that and stroking each other off while watching gay porn |
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if were all so gay why the ---- are you still posting.....
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So what "calculations" did you find?
Prove us all wrong and tell us what turbo, what engine, etc you are going with, and what calculations you found? You asked a stupid question to start with, then a few more, and now have found some magical calculations? I doubt it. Please prove me wrong. |
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Originally Posted by civiceggturbo
nitrous will not over spool the turbo if you have a working wastegate O0
nitrous will spool your piece faster yes because it brings the revs up quicker as a result of a purer oxygen source/ lower enegry to get oxygen in atom form, but when the turbo spins faster, it creates this thing called boost( consult fast and the furious 1 and 2) and your wastegate opens to by pass exhaust gas which gives you your desired psi and slows down the exhaust wheel because its not getting the full exhaust flow hopefully your not trying to do this to a honda.., 200 shot naaws and turbo good luck with that one, especially with your type of question but most likely your trying to get a nice uneatable v8, which proves the majority of young people driving "muscle cars" dont know dick |
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Originally Posted by bigwig
That's not completely correct. Nitrous oxide won't change the pressure in the intake manifold so the turbo is going to continue producing the same amount air/pressure so the turbine wheel will need to spin just as fast. The WG will just have to work a lot harder with the increased output(exhaust) of the engine.
You won't get compressor surge, but you can over-boost if your WG is pegged wide open but your energy is producing more energy than can fit through that hole. Another issue is backpressure but that gets complicated. |
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Originally Posted by Urinemachine
Correct - what happens is you have increased thermal energy out the exhaust valves in both flow and temperature - nitrous is an oxidizer and tends to accelerate the combustion process nicely. You will need to work the WG harder, aka the wastegate will need to open more to hold the same boost as prior to nitrous. So if the WG opened 1/4" before to hold 14 psi you might have it open 1/2" to hold 14 psi. What you do risk is outflowing the wastegate depending on how much you spray. If you have a single 38mm or internal WG turbo forget about it - you'll be making too much energy to bypass the turbine wheel through that small opening. A TiAL 44mm is pretty much as big as you really need for anything.
You won't get compressor surge, but you can over-boost if your WG is pegged wide open but your energy is producing more energy than can fit through that hole. Another issue is backpressure but that gets complicated. |
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Originally Posted by Hellbert
this wont help the turbos effiecency at all will it? like...will a turbo that is maxed out at 20 psi normally be able to create say 30 psi with no2? i doubt it but u never know...
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i was running a 75 wet shot and 10 on a z6 and fmu
i basically tunned the car at WOT with the fuel jets on the fogger it was bad ass >:D |
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so... lemme guess.... whats this one rule in the forum about??
way to bring hmt out of the dark ages. |
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Originally Posted by Urinemachine
Correct - what happens is you have increased thermal energy out the exhaust valves in both flow and temperature - nitrous is an oxidizer and tends to accelerate the combustion process nicely. You will need to work the WG harder, aka the wastegate will need to open more to hold the same boost as prior to nitrous. So if the WG opened 1/4" before to hold 14 psi you might have it open 1/2" to hold 14 psi. What you do risk is outflowing the wastegate depending on how much you spray. If you have a single 38mm or internal WG turbo forget about it - you'll be making too much energy to bypass the turbine wheel through that small opening. A TiAL 44mm is pretty much as big as you really need for anything.
You won't get compressor surge, but you can over-boost if your WG is pegged wide open but your energy is producing more energy than can fit through that hole. Another issue is backpressure but that gets complicated. |
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