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I installed DSM 450's today and did the AFC tunning, -38 accross the board, and DAME...the car is SO much better, it runs smoother, it lost alot of traction in second and a little in third.. you cant even feel when the turbo spools, it is just faster across the whole RPM range.


to anyone out there using a FMU, THROW IT AWAY, and get 450's with a piggy back HACK, it is alot easier and safer, and runs alot smother.

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you just figured this out? ::)

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ohh yes.. when i put my 450's in and set my afc.. wow.. its an awesome feeling espically not having to turn the car off then back on to reset the ecu

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yeah kinda late bro. people have been saying that for months and months. if u think thats cool. chip your ecu. cheaper and better than the afc hack

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It takes thug life a little bit to figure things out. He's too busy killing people and hanging out with his maffia buddies

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too bad that with the hack you have no ignition management. can you say detonation? can you say "retarded base timing to prevent detonation and kill the low wend"

get a MSD BTM, or chip the ECU

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::)*ignores lame comment*

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thought of that already, i retarded the timing 10 degrees,
the day i installed the turbo kit,
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Dame, i heard all about the hack, and how the FMU is shyt, but never dream of how much of a difference it is.
all i can say is from here on, i will NEVER use an FMU again.
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i am currently reading up on chipping ECU's,

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with all the traction problems i am havving i am surely going to burn out my STOCK CLUTCH.
so next on the list is a stage 3 or 4 clutch set.

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yeah, i was going to use an fmu until i had extra cash to convert to obd1 and run uberdata, but i said ---- it and went ahead and sold the fmu and bought to parts i need to convert/chip.

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thats his point though, you kill your low end power by retarding the timing like you did

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guess i should look into the MSD boost retard, huh?

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the ecu chip is better and u leave your timing at 16 degree's. well atleast i left mine at 16. and let the ecu do the work. pat's rom is the ----. works wonders in my car. i burn first and second like there aint no tomorrow

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I don't know how many times I read about people saying to get an MSD BTM to solve problems with the hack. It won't do a single thing to solve partial throttle issues with the hack. Chip the ecu and run uberdata or turboedit, whatever suits your application. It'll run so much better.

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and cheaper than an afc and btm .........

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dame this burning chip things seems mad difficult, but worth it .
i need to know where to begin, i have no experience in burning a chip, nor what tools or equipment you need to do so.

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teg has some info on that for you if you ask. He hit me up on some info on burning chips. I think the faq might have some write up as well

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its all on here somewhere, have a scan at the beginners section on PGMFI as well, there is a whole section on how to chip your ecu, a couple of hours reading and you'll know exactly what to do

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<---laughs at funny joke...bahahahahahahhaha!

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i searched through the FAQ and i see write ups on the programs (mostly). I need to start from scratch, where do i go to buy the stuff and chipps, so i can burn chips, and also where do (and how to) i get these chips in my ECU.

and remember i have a OBD2 car and ECU, i see nuthing for OBD2, i am guessing the only way around this is to get an OBD1 ECU and adaptor harness, right?

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have you ever tried looking in the engine management section. or check out pgmfi.org/phorum. they got good ---- over there also. all u need is a zif socket so u can pull the chip out if it doesnt work so u dont solder in a chip that doesnt work then you got to desolder that ----. its pretty simple. if u dont know how to do it. just get a picture of how to and take it to someone and ask them to do it for u. but like i said its pretty simple.

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yeah, you'll have to get an obd2-obd1 conversion harness for starters so that you can use an obd1 ecu (you can't chip obd2 ecu's). then you'll need an obd1 vtec ecu (p28, p30, p72, p75), it doesn't really matter which one because you're going to be rewriting the maps anyways. o.k., now you have you're conversion harness and obd1 ecu, next, you order a 'zif socket', this is the thing that is soldered in to your ecu that allows you to plug chips in to it, you could just solder a chip in, but then you would have to desolder/solder every time you need to make adjustments. basically the zif socket is a plug that allows you to plug in chips. if you don't feel confident doing this to the ecu your self, there are tons of people in the engine management section that you could send it to and they would do it for next to nothing (well, i guess not many people like you any more, so it might cost you a little more). now you have an obd1 ecu that will accept chips. next comes burning a chip, all you need to buy for this is a couple chips (about 3 bucks each), and a chip burner (about 70 bucks), or you can just have some one burn a chip for you, but the only problem with that is, you won't be able to tune it if it needs it unless you have a chip burner (the burner writes the 'tune' on to the chip). you just use uberdata (for obd1), which is free, to edit your tunes. it's not something you'll learn in a day, but it's a million times better than an afc. my suggestion would be sell the afc, take that money and money you would have spent on btm and buy a conversion harness from www.jdmshit.com (78-90 bucks shipped), an obd1 ecu (75-150 bucks), you could actually look for someone selling one that is already socketed, then just get a chip and you're good to go.

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ITS NOT DAME GOT DAMN IT its damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

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okee dokee

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can u say ho :)

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thanks

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so burning a chip is just like getting a e-manage right?
the difference is in the price.

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pretty much. emanage, hondata, ems, uberdata, turboedit all do the same thing, except the last two are free ;)

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i agree run a chip ecu.... i started out with the afc... but then i went with uberdata...i running pat's map that me a turbo90accord modify... and im still running my afc(for fine tuning) and my car runs great...youll be very happy with it...

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been hacked for the past 2 years now...... good ---- ;D

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you got to get in on the new age son.

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afc hack = so 2000 ::)

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FREE is a good word 8)

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Im about to run the hack on my turbo CRX and was wondering how I do it. Do I wire the VAFC exactly the same? How do I tune it so its nice and rich until I can get it to a dyno? How does it read boost and compensate?

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Dude, go the the "Engine Management" section and read the top few posts, mainly the *FAQ*. That is an old school question. You should be asking "How do I tune my TurboEdit ECU now that I have it in my car?". ;)
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What about running a Fmu and afc together?Maybe a 8:1 or 10:1 and use the afc to fine tune.The afc is just rpm dependent so i can't see using it with out a fmu to do the pressure sensing part.