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W O T 11-28-2004 07:50 PM

Need A Real Answer. How Hard Is A Well Done 16psi Setup For A Noob?
 
Im really considerring not doing a boost setup for my first high hp setup. Just seems like a lot of things can go wrong, and when they do, its always huge engine failure.

Ive got a fully built D16a6, head and block done to the tits. A little over 10:1 compression and I plan to run about 16-18psi daily driven on a T3 .60/.63 and TurboEdit tuned by Xenocron himself

To me for a person who knows really not to much about all the mechanical pieces of the wastegate, actuators and things, to much oil, oil restrictors, map sensors, vacuum being all routed properly, blowing rings

And the electrical work, Turboedit, electronic boost controller, wideband, MSD 6BTM, oil/boost and such gauges.

Im looking for some opinions on seriously hor hard it would be for you guys, I know most of you have experience and such and probably started out with a low budget setup, internal wastegate and an FMU.

Im only 18 so I dont know much, nor do my friends nor are there any shops in the area related to anything performance.

Just looking for real answers, its either boost or 150 shot direct port which is fairly easy, but refilling bottles every 4 runs and not always having the pwer there and the BOV is its major downside.....

Need opinions, serious one

Thanks

Dr.Boost 11-28-2004 08:00 PM

Re:Need A Real Answer. How Hard Is A Well Done 16psi Setup For A Noob?
 
You'll learn as you go. Pay attention and do some research. Everybody had to start from scratch.
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Atheist 11-28-2004 08:02 PM

Re:Need A Real Answer. How Hard Is A Well Done 16psi Setup For A Noob?
 
I don't see why you don't just research until you are no longer a newbie, and then pursue boost.

W O T 11-28-2004 08:13 PM

Re:Need A Real Answer. How Hard Is A Well Done 16psi Setup For A Noob?
 
Yeah but most people probably dont start with high psi setups, or if they do they have lots of money to have someone else install/tune everything or they start with a really easy internally gated, VAFC/FMU controlled setup on stock internals....

Hard to explain, but Ill have absolutely no help at all with the setup. Motor is already built so I cant run a stock internal setup anymore.

----!!!!

Atheist 11-28-2004 10:42 PM

Re:Need A Real Answer. How Hard Is A Well Done 16psi Setup For A Noob?
 
You could still run low boost till you figure it all out, and you have here, honda-tech, and other forums ot learn.


W O T 11-28-2004 11:14 PM

Re:Need A Real Answer. How Hard Is A Well Done 16psi Setup For A Noob?
 
Im not like that man, Im go big or go home

Its either I run this 16psi or I go with a 150 shot

Turbo maybe be a bit slower than the 150 with my setup but its always there, but more can go wrong, and will prob scare little children lol

djfob 11-28-2004 11:26 PM

Re:Need A Real Answer. How Hard Is A Well Done 16psi Setup For A Noob?
 
I'd personally run it N/A till your ready for boost....a turbo is alot more fun than a 150 shot

MikeJ-2009 11-28-2004 11:30 PM

Re:Need A Real Answer. How Hard Is A Well Done 16psi Setup For A Noob?
 
If you can hook up the nitrous kit you can hook up all those gauges and ----. Just start with no wastegate mods and you'll be at like 8 psi. By that time you will know what your doing, it just takes time.

HondaTuner 11-28-2004 11:41 PM

Re:Need A Real Answer. How Hard Is A Well Done 16psi Setup For A Noob?
 
Seriously man. Ever hear of a guy building the roof first on his house? No. He starts at the foundation and works his way up. I would suggest you do the same. Run at a low PSI until you know what the hell you're doing, then crank it up ;) You don't want a blown engine, thats for sure.

90turbohatch 11-29-2004 02:06 AM

Re:Need A Real Answer. How Hard Is A Well Done 16psi Setup For A Noob?
 
yeah, listen to what they are saying. Everybody started out not knowing ----. You will learn also. Its not that difficult. Start small and work your way up.

robs99si 11-29-2004 02:19 AM

Re:Need A Real Answer. How Hard Is A Well Done 16psi Setup For A Noob?
 
ok read this link, it'll show you all you need to know about turbo charging a honda. if you're still a newb after reading and understanding this link, then you have some serious learning disability. when i first wanted to turbo my car i learned the basics in about 3 days. then after that i asked specific questions. just read the link it's all about turboing a honda.
http://www.beesandgoats.com/boostfaq/g2icturbo.html

W O T 11-29-2004 02:37 AM

Re:Need A Real Answer. How Hard Is A Well Done 16psi Setup For A Noob?
 
Ive read that link, it covers the basics and thats it, No boost controllers (I dont think), no stand alone management, and troubleshooting. Boost creep, spike, not spooling, leaks, overheating, detonating......

Putting the ------- turbo on teh car is no problem, its knowing what to do when ---- fucks up or to know before its going to ---- up....

You can also stop saying, start small. Im not wasting a nice fully forged A6 with almost everything possible done except for sleeves on ------- 8 psi

The only guy I have in my area is crx88si and hes not even boosted yet and Im sure he can vouch that import performance is almost non existant unless its some rich kid who just did it for the bling and the bragging and for shows. ------- Canada is always 8 steps behind in everything


90turbohatch 11-29-2004 02:49 AM

Re:Need A Real Answer. How Hard Is A Well Done 16psi Setup For A Noob?
 
Then don't listen to us and don't start small. I wouldn't want you to waste your built a6 on 8 psi to start and when you are learning. Run 16 psi immediatly when you don't know what you are doing and blow the ------- thing up. There is so much good info floating around on this site and many others. Just look.

W O T 11-29-2004 03:00 AM

Re:Need A Real Answer. How Hard Is A Well Done 16psi Setup For A Noob?
 
Yeah Im active on about 5 performance based boards, so Im learning

But still, without ---- going wrong, I dont have experience, nor will anyone around me except on the net, little things I might miss can cause great big problems.

Oh well, dont worry about this thread, just answer all my questions lol

Thanks guys, ---- N20 (even though itd be the only torque Ill ever know of)

Guy-Fast 11-29-2004 03:22 AM

Re:Need A Real Answer. How Hard Is A Well Done 16psi Setup For A Noob?
 
I have told you numerous times nitrous tuning is simple it's jets and a larger pump and a fpr thats it. I have been tuning nitrous cars for years and thats really all there is to it. Oh and 150 shot is nuts for a street set up. An 80 direct should get you into the 12's. If you really want to go fast and you dont have a builder/tuner in your area you need one thing it's called skills which from all your posts you dont have so be patient learn and start where everyone has with swaps, mild kits etc. Look at Jeff he started years ago to get where he is at today that is what most of us guys who are gettin older in age dod. I have been doin this stuff since I was 18 6 years later I know enough to know I dont know half of what somebody who has been at it 5+ years longer than me. 16 psi is just a # so runnin 15 isnt worth it thats ------ lame. Have you ever even driven a turbo honda?

W O T 11-29-2004 03:29 AM

Re:Need A Real Answer. How Hard Is A Well Done 16psi Setup For A Noob?
 
Yeah I know a Nitrous system is balls to the wall easy to tune, would 100% net me quicker 1/4 speeds but I just think bottle refills on a 150 shot would get to be pretty dam expensive.... I was running a 75 shot dry this season on a zc and spanked everything in my area, I believe there is only one B swapped civic in my area and its a B18b? And its in a ------ EK. No performance here

And no, not only have I never driven a turbo Honda, Ive NEVER SEEN ONE!!!

Canada sucks man

88crxSi 11-29-2004 06:56 AM

Re:Need A Real Answer. How Hard Is A Well Done 16psi Setup For A Noob?
 
im willing to come over and help.. just got to give me some decent notice...

Jays91DXhatch 11-29-2004 09:42 AM

Re:Need A Real Answer. How Hard Is A Well Done 16psi Setup For A Noob?
 
Where the hell in Canada do you live? Nunavut?

Certainly not anywhere near Toronto or any other major city because those statements are a LOAD OF CRAP!

robs99si 11-29-2004 10:29 AM

Re:Need A Real Answer. How Hard Is A Well Done 16psi Setup For A Noob?
 

Originally Posted by W O T
Yeah Im active on about 5 performance based boards, so Im learning

But still, without ---- going wrong, I dont have experience, nor will anyone around me except on the net, little things I might miss can cause great big problems.

Oh well, dont worry about this thread, just answer all my questions lol

Thanks guys, ---- N20 (even though itd be the only torque Ill ever know of)

so if you know all the basics, just install your kit already. worry about the problems later.


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