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Ellinor 09-09-2008 12:09 PM

Need Help Fast for Daily Driver
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzCdYewjJhA

THE CAR:
95 civic with a d15b7, 16x,xxxkm. The car has a bad IAC and the O2 isn't connected because I haven't extended.

THE SETUP:
HMT setup like many of those in the Turbo Projects section. STD Manifold with T3 adaptor to fit 14b turbo. 2.25" DP and Catback. Intercooled and 1g BOV. My BOV is T'd of brake booster, Boost guage of FPR and Wastegate of nipple by turbo. I have a tuned chipped from a friend who previously dyno tuned a civic with the same setup.

WHAT'S HAPPENING:
It has less power than a Geo Metro. I don't get positive boost psi. I don't have a leak in the charge piping, I tested. The wastegate seams fine because I tested it for vacuum and psi. I am stumped. The guy who I'm asking is stumped.

igotnothin 09-09-2008 12:18 PM

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well for starters conect your boost gauge to a vacume source off the manifold. That way if its a vac guage you can read that as well...

Secound is this your first time trying to dirve the car boosted?

You need to remember each car is difrent, and just because its the same setup it dosnt meen it will respond the same. Each motor ages diffrently and has diffrent compression. You need to get that bitch tuned..

I would try geting a new base map off xenocrons site, and see if it runs better.

I watched you vid, and it looks like your tune has the 2step engauged. That would be why the engine isnt reving up.
And secound the car shouldnt make much boost if any while in neural.


And to all you reading... watch the vid at the 1 min mark..... "Its spooling or something, I dont know " LMAO want some wine with you cheesy vagina

Ellinor 09-09-2008 01:22 PM

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The car might have 2 step but it won't rev higher than 4000 even in gear. I drove her today and gave her WOT. It pulled decently until 3000 and it felt like a it hit the wall. From 3000 it slowly pulled to 4000 and stoped climbing and the gauge read 30 vacuum. The FPR has a vacuum source of the IM and that's where I T'ed off of. I know that gauges are hooked up right because I connected them 2 weeks before I put the turbo on.

igotnothin 09-09-2008 01:38 PM

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Sry i read that you had "the boost, fpr and wastegate" all off the nipple on the turbo..

Like i said, mostlikely the tune isnt going to work on your car.. Try a base map and see if it helps, could also be inpart becasue your o2 sensor istn hooked up... If the tuner tuned your budys car with the o2 sensor enabled, then your o2 needs to be hooked up...


Ellinor 09-09-2008 02:02 PM

Re: Need Help Fast for Daily Driver
 
The gauge should still read boost and not slowly go vacuum even though the throttle position didn't should right? I heard of boost creep but this is reverse boost creep that I have. I can understand the car running like ---- because of the O2 but I don't see how that would cause no boost.

HMTdmc 09-09-2008 02:28 PM

Re: Need Help Fast for Daily Driver
 
It just needs tuned. Do you guys have a way of burning chips?

LilWayne 09-09-2008 02:33 PM

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Check engine light is on, so clear codes first

JoshMO 09-09-2008 03:33 PM

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If you're at WOT then you shouldn't be reading any vacuum on the gauge. It should be at 0 homey. Or at least showing boost. Sounds like you need to clear the CEL's first then go from there.

HMTdmc 09-09-2008 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshMO
If you're at WOT then you shouldn't be reading any vacuum on the gauge. It should be at 0 homey. Or at least showing boost. Sounds like you need to clear the CEL's first then go from there.

I did not notice the cel. Um I watched it again. I'm pretty sure that beast is in limp mode!

1 is the chip in the right way? the little dot in the corner should be at the top right side. the top being the towards the plugs
If it's a crome bin download crome free and make sure the check sum has been removed.

LilWayne 09-09-2008 04:04 PM

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Get your ---- together and postmore pics of car/setup


I want to see

Ellinor 09-09-2008 05:17 PM

Re: Need Help Fast for Daily Driver
 
The chip is in the right way because my friend chips and tunes cars for a living, so thats out of the question. The CEL was on before the turbo because of the IAC and maybe the O2 not being connected. I personally can't burn chips or anything of that nature and it is a Crome Pro program. The guy that he originally burned the chip for is happy and problem free as well as other ebay customers that he sold to. I just searched limp mode and I seriously think the car is in limp mode. But what I don't get is that I've driven cars with bad or no O2s connected. Sure the CEL went on but the car ran fine. I know a bad IAC can't make the car go limp mode because it's been broken for over a month now it just makes the car use more gas and the idle goes up and down. I should still get boost in limp mode right?

Ellinor 09-09-2008 05:23 PM

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EDIT:

When I researched limp mode, all definitions involve a rev and speed limit. I can go as fast as I want until I hit 4000 in fifth. Would the car even run with a bad chip installed? I also have dsm 450s with a resistor box wired in, could this do something?

HMTdmc 09-09-2008 06:36 PM

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Have your professional tuner fix it for you.

Birdley42008 09-09-2008 06:56 PM

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tune

Ellinor 09-09-2008 11:22 PM

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What does a tune have to do with the car reading vacuum and no boost? I can understand a tune will fix it from running like crap. The car is at the body shop right now, got rear ended, so is there anything I can do there before I bring it to my friend? Tests? I want to spray WD40 on my Fuel Injector seals to check for leaks there being thats only place I haven't checked for leaks but is there anything else? Dyno time is expensive.

HMTdmc 09-09-2008 11:28 PM

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check the code. If it's solid then then it's a bad chip job,bad chip or pourly made or burned chip chip may even be bad.

Ellinor 09-10-2008 12:16 AM

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This is my third personal chip from my tuner and NONE have ever gone bad. As for pictures; My plumbing is done with irigation hose, I found it behind my shed. LOL. It fits like a glove too, Driven over it and it doesn't crush. I will however contact my tuner and try to get the codes read.

Birdley42008 09-10-2008 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Ellinor
What does a tune have to do with the car reading vacuum and no boost? I can understand a tune will fix it from running like crap. The car is at the body shop right now, got rear ended, so is there anything I can do there before I bring it to my friend? Tests? I want to spray WD40 on my Fuel Injector seals to check for leaks there being thats only place I haven't checked for leaks but is there anything else? Dyno time is expensive.

Dude go change your IACV, mine aswell clean your entire TB out inlcuding the FITV, also change your o2 or something, diasable it. Then get a tune. ALSO maybe a bad gauge! Also possible blocked intercooler, or bov with a massive leak.

MAJORAHOLE 09-10-2008 10:23 AM

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what are you using for an air filter? i had the same problem when i tried to use a makeshift filter on my ----. i smashed filter element between 2 pieces of metal screen, and when i drove i couldn't make boost, and felt slower than n/a. it was restricting the flow.
took it off and it worked fine, thats when i said "fuckit" and havent run a filter since

turbocivic6776 09-10-2008 04:02 PM

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limp mode ftw i just had the same thing a couple days ago becuase of a code 4 it wouldnt rev hight then 3,000rpm then i fixed the problem and now cel is gone and enigine runs normal. jump the blue plug by ecu (2 wires) and then turn the ignition to on position but dont start and the cel will blink out your codes. then fix them.

Ellinor 09-15-2008 05:27 PM

Re: Need Help Fast for Daily Driver
 
I got the car back from the body shop today so I decided to do some of the things you guys suggested. I sprayed wd40 on all connections and fuel injectors and the idle did not change, so that means I don't have a leak. I connected the O2 and it runs worse nearly stalling each time I put the clutch in. I still have a bad iac but today it wasn't acting up like it usually does. CEL is still on. I took of the cloth that I was using for the air filter and found oil in the intake side of the turbo, I bought a 16g and it also had oil sitting in the intake side of the turbo. I tried starting the car with the cloth off and I couldn't get it to stay running. Any help will be much appreciated.

igotnothin 09-15-2008 06:21 PM

Re: Need Help Fast for Daily Driver
 
well you need to run the codes from the ecu, and find out what the probelm is and then fix them. Then you can get your car tuned and it will run good..... Checking codes is elementary honda stuff... get at it, stop beating around the ------- bush

Ellinor 09-15-2008 06:57 PM

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HALLEUJAH ITS FIXED. I had a bad elbow that bolted on to the turbo. Replaced it and now 8psi in 1st gear @ 3000rpm

turbocivic6776 09-15-2008 07:22 PM

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What? a bad elbow?? how did this cause a cel?? im lost or is the cel because of the o2 not plugged in? what ever you did could not have fixed the problem with the car dieing out after 3,000 rpm

Ellinor 09-15-2008 08:39 PM

Re: Need Help Fast for Daily Driver
 
The O2 did nothing, if anything it became more gutless when I plugged it in. The car was in limp mode due to a massive hidden boost leak on the turbo. The talon/eclipses have a black elbow that bolts onto the intake side of the turbo housing so you can connect the plumbing. Turns out that I was missing a gasket where it connects. I don't know why it didn't show up on the leak tests. I only found this because I was about to replace the turbo but I didn't want to reseal my connection. Now shes got plenty of power. I still have a CEL but thats because of my IAC but I don't care. Thanks for the help I would have never gotten this far without you. But next time some one has a similar problem I suggest to tell them to check all the bolted connections first.

turbocivic6776 09-15-2008 09:59 PM

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yea but the limp mode couldnt have been caused by that that would only cause a boost leak but your car will still run at least like a stock engine and wouldnt throw a code from it. im glad you got it fixed but either your car was not in limp mode or it was some sort of miracle where it fixed itself when you found the boost leak. did you ever check all the codes? if so what were they? :l

Scott-EP 09-15-2008 11:29 PM

Re: Need Help Fast for Daily Driver
 
so i got the the part where i saw

"my friend chips and tunes cars for a living"

and stopped reading.

he is either screwing people out of money or he is messing with you. he should be able to fix that ---- in less than 5 min.

that tune has issues. post up the file so we can see that

yamaha6611 09-16-2008 12:07 AM

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X2

Ellinor 09-16-2008 11:55 AM

Re: Need Help Fast for Daily Driver
 
car runs perfect now after I fixed the boost leak. Except for the IAC.

Scott-EP 09-16-2008 12:21 PM

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a boost leak was the least of your problems

Ellinor 09-16-2008 12:56 PM

Re: Need Help Fast for Daily Driver
 
what do you mean? I know an untuned engine equals disaster but I babied it and only drove it to the body shop and back, 10km trip all together.

turbocivic6776 09-16-2008 04:31 PM

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we are saying that your problem you were asking about was not a boost leak caused problem.

Tom-Guy 09-16-2008 05:25 PM

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ok

Scott-EP 09-16-2008 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ellinor
what do you mean? I know an untuned engine equals disaster but I babied it and only drove it to the body shop and back, 10km trip all together.

driving around like a reasonable person on a basemap is fine. what i was getting at is that fixing the boost leak did not fix you problems. it might have helped you build boost, but your problems were/are tune related.

turbocivic6776 09-16-2008 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by PhilStubbs
driving around like a reasonable person on a basemap is fine. what i was getting at is that fixing the boost leak did not fix you problems. it might have helped you build boost, but your problems were/are tune related.

+1

Ellinor 09-17-2008 03:04 PM

Re: Need Help Fast for Daily Driver
 
Most of the time I can feel if the tune is off. The seems like it has a tune made for the car, like I went to the dyno. When I have more money I'll get the tune checked out but as of now, I need a clutch. Thanks for your concern, the world needs more people like you.

Tom-Guy 09-17-2008 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ellinor
Most of the time I can feel if the tune is off. The seems like it has a tune made for the car, like I went to the dyno. When I have more money I'll get the tune checked out but as of now, I need a clutch. Thanks for your concern, the world needs more people like you.

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