MY F22's new turbo to be. 56k go find a rope.
 

ok here are some pics of my new turbo. My grandpa just picked it up from his work. it's off a izuzu (spellling sucks) anyways it's supposed to be set at 18psi on the wastegate. I will be using this on my fully built f22a1. Have you guys ever seen flanges like this before. and how much power do you guys think this will be good for? the exaust a/r is 80 and the intake is 60a/r garrett m24. any info is appicated.

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[img width=510 height=715]http://www.fourgasmmotorsports.com/exaust.JPG[/img]

[img width=510 height=715]http://www.fourgasmmotorsports.com/80ar%20exaust.JPG[/img]

Re: MY F22's new turbo to be. 56k go find a rope.
 

looks rather small for an f22, but i guess you'll have to work with what you got! good luck. post lots of pics, we like pics :y

Re: MY F22's new turbo to be. 56k go find a rope.
 

more info on the built f22 would be appreciated.

-Jose

Re: MY F22's new turbo to be. 56k go find a rope.
 

small it came off a 5.7 liter and had 18psi at 2600 rpm so i aint think it is small and as far as the built motor i am goin with h23 eagle h beams wiseco 8.5to1,delta cam,aem adjustable cam gear,and my gramps friend specials in cylinder heads so i am giving it to him for a complete rebuild with bigger valves and such

Re: MY F22's new turbo to be. 56k go find a rope.
 

ya this turbo looks pretty big to me. it's a 60/60 trim with a 80 a/r exaust. isn' that like bigger then a gt35? or at least appox size. and with a 18 lbs gate it's gotta hold some good power.

Re: MY F22's new turbo to be. 56k go find a rope.
 

did it come off of a isuzu npr ??? should get that intercooler too :y

Re: MY F22's new turbo to be. 56k go find a rope.
 

not quite anything near a gt35r

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yea shane not quite that big but from the size i saw it looked like a small t4 series maybe, the compressor is bigger than T3 for sure

Re: MY F22's new turbo to be. 56k go find a rope.
 

no offense that thing is way to big for a f22 ... you will make full boost at 6550 and be shifting at 7k..... and yea those turbos came off of npr's
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7681/nprturbo6mc.jpg

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ya but redline on a accord is 6250rpm so i will be all good and i did get the intercooler off of it also just have to get pics and they weill be up also

Re: MY F22's new turbo to be. 56k go find a rope.
 

i have one almost the same. but its a .60/.67
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...?topic=53621.0

i think the accord will spool it up. just try it see what happens.. if you find someone that makes the flanges let me know i need some too. you should try starting with a smaller wastegate or get an external
https://i23.ebayimg.com/04/i/05/70/9a/79_1.JPG

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IMO, thats not very built. I was thinking more like you resleeved it. I mean, that is a big turbo to get to spool befiore 4k, so you either need get some highercr pistons and get a little more than a rebuilt head wtih vavle job done, or get a smaller tubo.

I mean ---- dude, if that thing came off a 5.x liter turbo and was in boost by 2.6k rpm, imagine at what rpm that bitch is gona spool at in your car. You didnt even bore it out some.

-Jose

Re: MY F22's new turbo to be. 56k go find a rope.
 

i concur about the higher compression. 9 to 1 at least. I do think that this turbo should give you good results, even if it does spool late

Re: MY F22's new turbo to be. 56k go find a rope.
 

.8 exh. side isnt that bad. You guys are making it out like its not gonna spool till 6500.
I bet its gonna spool just fine. It wont be a T25, but Id guess 10psi by 5000ish.

I think his extra .6l of displacement is gonna be a bit more helpful in spooling a larger turbo than what most 1.6l turbo honda owners think.
Get that fucker on there and find out :)

Re: MY F22's new turbo to be. 56k go find a rope.
 

Dam, would that fit on a DSM manifold? It looks like the regular 4 stud setup. Any pics of the f22a1? I have the small ass td04 on my unbuilt f22a1

Re: MY F22's new turbo to be. 56k go find a rope.
 

im sure theres an adapter plate.

-Jose

Re: MY F22's new turbo to be. 56k go find a rope.
 

I would definately switch to an external gate, 18psi seems to be a bit much for a street setup, You may want to check out arias pistons they have a 9.4 to 1 compression ratio piston for the f22a1 I was looking at those for mine

Re: MY F22's new turbo to be. 56k go find a rope.
 

i plan on using a boost controller so i will be runnin between 7-10 on the sterret and 18 at the track and my gramps likes fabricating stuff so he is gonna be making the flanges and he said maybe the manifold for it but im sure renr that he would make a flange for it if u give a drawing or something and i contacted wiseco about pistons they quoted me like 350 for custom forged 8.7to1 pistons no pics yet but i will post up during the build

Re: MY F22's new turbo to be. 56k go find a rope.
 

You do know that a boost controller can't lower boost from what the wastegate is set at, right?

So if your wastegate really is set at 18 psi that is not an option.

Re: MY F22's new turbo to be. 56k go find a rope.
 

I was going to say, "All that work for internal Gate!!"

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350 for forged f22a1 pistons? the cheapest I found was 400...I might have to give them a call.

Re: MY F22's new turbo to be. 56k go find a rope.
 

Just a misc. question: why spend all this money getting your motor nice and prepped, and then try and match it with the crappyest, most random turbocharger?

Re: MY F22's new turbo to be. 56k go find a rope.
 

You are aware that NPRs are diesels, yes? Your picture even shows that the engine in question is a diesel.

:(

I bet my LS can't spool this turbo off a 5.9 liter before 3000 rpms, huh?

:( :( :(

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itll work. that turbo isnt must bigger than my old super 60. ---- im putting it on a z6. watch me spool that bitch up. like stealthy said, lag is just "traction control"

Re: MY F22's new turbo to be. 56k go find a rope.
 

im new to the turbo game so i really didnt kno about the boost controller but i read in a magazine that they were using a boost controller and were able to switch it from street 2 track use with a touch of a button and slo13 the turbo was free so i am takin full advantage and yes i knew it came off a diesel my gramps works at a diesel shop so i knew it came off one and as renr said i aint gonna have a prob spoolin it up

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You can't turn the boost down lower than what your wastegate spring is set at. So in your case the lowest you could go is 18 psi. You can use a boost controller to turn up your boost but 18 psi is the lowest you could go.

Re: MY F22's new turbo to be. 56k go find a rope.
 

change out wastegates and problem sloved. put like cheap dodge daytona gate on here and remote mount it to the block like jakes setup last year

Re: MY F22's new turbo to be. 56k go find a rope.
 

screw cheap wastegate ill go with a nice beasty wastegate 8)

Re: MY F22's new turbo to be. 56k go find a rope.
 

So you're using F22 forged pistons with H23 rods? We're looking to build up another block for my cousins F22 and I'm very interested in this... H23 rods work without modification?

Re: MY F22's new turbo to be. 56k go find a rope.
 

sweet deal Ron-Jon, that turbo's gonna work pretty well. It is a bit larger granted, but you have to remember that spool up time is only an issue on the street from a dead stop. At the track your gonna be poundin it off the lights and even on the street once you get through 1st gear, you'll be in your R's the rest of the way. ;) to you bro! your well on your way to boostin happy

Re: MY F22's new turbo to be. 56k go find a rope.
 

aren't h23 rods shorter than f22 rods and wouldnt that cause a problem?

Re: MY F22's new turbo to be. 56k go find a rope.
 

for the most part, I'm pretty positive that H23 rods and F22's rods are the same. Also, H23 rods will swap right into the old B20A5 motor that came in the late 80's prelude's

Re: MY F22's new turbo to be. 56k go find a rope.
 

Exaclty but make sure when you get the kit on and everything you shift fast so you dont lose boost, otherwise your turbo will take longer to spool...common sense but with a bigger spool time it might help

Re: MY F22's new turbo to be. 56k go find a rope.
 

Yes sir, h23 and f22a1 rods are the same length. I got a sweet deal on some h23 rods from tuner toys.

Re: MY F22's new turbo to be. 56k go find a rope.
 

i thought the npr's were 3.9l 4 bangers

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let me get the # to get some slugs for $350.. ---- off the shelf raceeng/wisecos are $439 a set.

why sleeve an f22 block when the iron sleeve will take 400-500whp w/o a problem.
forged rods, pistson, and upgraded valvetrain.. what more needs to be done to be "fully built"

h23 and f22 have the same exact rods. both have a 5.572 length, .935 width, 2.008 be bore, .8649-.8654 pin bore.

as far as i know, eagle doesnt make anything for the f22 or h23. the only major company that makes rods for the h23/f22 are crower and they cost damn near 700.

importbuilders and probe make rods for the f22/h23 and i have heard good things about them. i heard from a guy that used to work at importbuilders that the importbuilder rods are basically probe rods but the rod bolts used in the IB rods are slightly better than probes bolts.

raceeng.com has some off the shelf f22 forged pistons w/ stock 8.8:1 CR made by Wiseco.

when i have the money this will be my setup.. raceng/wiseco forged pistons, probe/IB rods, stock sleeves, and stock head w/ jdm f22b dohc or h23 intake manifold and bored throttle body spooling a t3/to4e 57trim .60/.63ar.

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post up some reviews on how well they hold up....

im sure they are just $250 generic/no name china forged 4340 steel h beam rods. i have thought about picking up a set of these but too scared i will regret cheapin out.

Re: MY F22's new turbo to be. 56k go find a rope.
 

I'm not worried about them. If something does go wrong, it's just an f22. Not like I'm blowing up an h22.

Re: MY F22's new turbo to be. 56k go find a rope.
 

thats the way i feel also i can get a new f22 for like 200 bucks but if u blow up a h22 u r lookin at between 1500-2000 bucks so that would just make me cry to blow up a h22

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srry, I had forgotten that you could use forged rods/pistons without resleeving. I am so used to talkin about H22's and ----.

but yea, thats true that you can get over 400hp from the stock sleeves, just some good pistons and rods.

You guys should do an f22/h23 head swap, have a better platform to start on. ya know?

-Jose