my 2000 si build
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Ive been a member for 2 years on here and have over 10 days of login time but I never really had a newb post, since I starting using this site mostly for the classifieds section, but now its really the only forum I go to for information anymore.
I want to start by saying thanks to everyone on here for answering some of my dumb questions and for all the amazing information on this site. A very special thanks to philStubbs/Scott/Evens Performance for teaching me pretty much everything I know as far as working on hondas. I'll give you a brief history of all my previous setups. About a year an a half ago I put my first turbo setup together which was basically a used greddy/homemade setup that let me keep all the little luxuries like a/c and p/s. The car was fun but I always wanted something a little more serious. Well, after about 6 months of boost, much like other stock turbo motors, my ringlands took a dump. No worries, just an excuse to build the motor. Heres some pics of the old setup. Attachment 15926 Attachment 15927 Heres some carnage pics. Piston #3 was the one that took the dump. Ringland crumbs suck. Attachment 15928 Attachment 15929 Attachment 15930 Attachment 15931 Attachment 15932 You can see at the top where the damage was done. Attachment 15933 Now for the new goodies. Tuner toys H-beams and SRP 81.25mm 9.0:1cr pistons. Attachment 15934 Attachment 15935 Now the engine during re-assebmbly. Attachment 15936 Attachment 15937 Attachment 15938 Attachment 15939 Attachment 15940 Pretty much ready to go back in the bay. Attachment 15941 After selling the greddy setup to afford the motor rebuild I was pretty much completely out of money, so I opted for the ghetto HMT topmount. $40 ebay header and some other random piping we had laying around and came up with this setup. The turbo cost me $200 and with everything else I had left over from the old setup, I probably had $300 total into this whole new setup. I had quite a few leaks with this manifold so spool time was pretty poor but for the price of everything this was a pretty good setup while I had it. Attachment 15942 Attachment 15943 Attachment 15944 Attachment 15945 Attachment 15946 My most recent setup is much more solid and clean. I just put a new set of tuner toys 660cc injectors in and will hopefully be upping the boost to 13-14psi soon and maybe 280ish whp. I'll give you the rundown on the most current list of parts in the setup Im running now. Blaast rebuilt Greddy t3/t04b .48/.60 CDM (Evens Performance) cast manifold Tial 35mm wastegate 3"turbo back full mild/aluminized steel exhaust made by me and Scott Airplane oil lines random greddy/pieced together charge pipes CDM (Evans Performance) type-s bov (not pictured) CXRacing (ebay) 28"x9"x3" intercooler Tuner toys 660cc injectors p28 chipped with crome ACT 6 puck unsprung disc with a heavy duty pressure plate No a/c or p/s About 25 zip ties, maybe 5 feet worth of duct tape in various places and of course, some jb weld currently running 3 psi :3 on a basemap but will be doing some street tuning in a week or so. Heres some pics of how it sits now. Only difference is I have a fake type-s instead of the real one in the pics and a new 14" Evans Performance slim fan. Attachment 15947 Attachment 15948 Attachment 15949 I'll get some more pics of things next week when I get my camera back and possibly a ripper vid or two once we get it tuned a little. |
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Looks good, time to up the boost to say 20psi >:D. BTW what did you do with the top mount?
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Its sitting in Scotts garage. I need to get a couple pics of that thing. Its actually pretty sweet looking. Nice 180* whitey bends in it.
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Originally Posted by Nate
Its sitting in Scotts garage. I need to get a couple pics of that thing. Its actually pretty sweet looking. Nice 180* whitey bends in it.
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good stuff
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Originally Posted by crxvtec91
Hum what to sell it :6
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cool ---- its nice to see another SI btw Whats your cpr
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Originally Posted by lilpooh21186
cool ---- its nice to see another SI btw Whats your cpr
SRP 81.25mm 9.0:1 pistons Tuner Toys h-beam rods ACL bearings OEM mls headgasket ARP headstuds Bone stock head I made this thread really late at night so if your wondering about anything else just ask. Im sure Im forgetting some other things still. |
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cool setup were about the same. Eagle rod Wiesco piston 9.0cpr cometic hg arp's blockguard ect. only thing i would warn you about is that driver side mount hates abuse also tranny mounts owned me
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Drivers side mount was designed by downs syndrome monkeys. This is the second one Ive been through and its ripped clear in half. I think Im going to pick up an eg mount and make some kind of brackets for it to fit in and ek. Either that or spend a fortune on an innovative mount. Tranny mount has been fine as far as I can tell.
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Originally Posted by Nate
Drivers side mount was designed by downs syndrome monkeys. This is the second one Ive been through and its ripped clear in half. I think Im going to pick up an eg mount and make some kind of brackets for it to fit in and ek. Either that or spend a fortune on an innovative mount. Tranny mount has been fine as far as I can tell.
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Wow I cant believe I didnt think about that. I guess that would work. Would be a little harsh but I have no a/c no p/s and a 6 puck unsprung clutch so why not right?
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One solid mount doesn't really change ---- all, you get a bit more vibration through the dash, etc. but it's really not as extreme as it sounds.
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Yeah I think thats the route Im going to take. I'll probably fill the tranny mount with window weld also. I'll be out of town for the next couple days so I wont get to mess with the car much but I should have a few updates on things next weekend.
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Originally Posted by Nate
Yeah I think thats the route Im going to take. I'll probably fill the tranny mount with window weld also. I'll be out of town for the next couple days so I wont get to mess with the car much but I should have a few updates on things next weekend.
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Originally Posted by Minor Threat
One solid mount doesn't really change ---- all, you get a bit more vibration through the dash, etc. but it's really not as extreme as it sounds.
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dude your set up is awsom why didnt you keep the dirty B top mount mo flow.. oh well nice set up what are your goals for hp on a street tune pump gas/? 15psi 360'is hp
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The top mount had leaking problems just about every other week. I just got tired of dealing with it while I was down at school without the means to fix it. The cast log actually has pretty nice looking runners with a decent collector. I think 400whp could be made pretty efficiently with the log plus its a lot more durable.
Right now I have a .48 turbine housing which will have a pretty hard time making it to 300whp. This is my daily driver that I drive 200 miles to school and back quite often so Im not really shooting for huge #'s right now. I love the spool of the .48 housing too so I think Im going to just be content with a quick spooling 280ish whp. The t04b compressor Im sure is good for nearly 400whp so if I ever get a beater to drive to school I'll just switch turbine housings and up the boost. |
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nice pics of the top mount dude.> THANKSs
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i bought the innovative mount it works wonders beware of our cheep ass trannys i just destroyed my diff at the track now im looking into a custome tranny im thinking ls first to help with wheel spin b16 2nd,3rd ls 4th and 5th with type r final drive and lsd that will be next year though
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i will try to get you the other pics today. been busy as hell with my car and its still not driveable. having a super clean and painted engine bay sucks to try to work on. you have to be too careful
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Originally Posted by PhilStubbs
i will try to get you the other pics today. been busy as hell with my car and its still not driveable. having a super clean and painted engine bay sucks to try to work on. you have to be too careful
Yes, yes it does, plus the ton of time it takes to do right. Check in Gd I will post pic's of my painted e-bay in a bit :6. |
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Well we got a little tuning done on the car this weekend. Currently running 10 psi and she pulls pretty strong. Fixed a few other minor issues that were bothering me but the motor mount issue still lingers. After putting more thought into welding it solid we figured have all other stock mounts the motor is still going to want to move which would more than likely break the welded mount if not something else :4. I guess Im back to finding some other fix there. Its kinda late right now but I'll post some more pics up of some other things tomorrow. Keep the mount suggestions coming.
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i keep forgetting those pics. i will do my best tonight. i should have just sent them while you were here saturday.
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Well since we didnt take any pics when we were making the exhaust I tried to take as good of pics of it as I good with the car on jackstands. Its a mix of aluminized and mild steel so its a little multicolored but thats what makes it sexy. We made it all one piece since I couldnt afford any flanges and we cut it in half right before the rear lca to make it easier to install. Its connected with a silicone coupler and its holding up really nicely. Theres a few other pieces of couplers clamped onto it to keep it from rattling in places. The exhaust is 3" straight pipe from the turbo all the way to a 3" resonatotor I picked up from a local muffler shop. We made a homemade muffler out of it by welding a 3.5" stainless tip to it that we cut off an old ricer muffler we had laying around. It actually looks realy sleeper/stock from the back of the car.
Attachment 15644 Attachment 15645 Attachment 15646 Attachment 15647 We needed to tune and didnt have an o2 bung to weld in to I cut the one that was in my stock header and welded it in to the downpipe. It looks a little sloppy from all the stainless hanging off the bung but it worked. Attachment 15648 Still looking for a fix for the mount problem. |
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i welded mine shut!!! thanks for the tip who ever said so vibration aint too bad after 4 days of getting used to it :8
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Originally Posted by turbo4life
i welded mine shut!!! thanks for the tip who ever said so vibration aint too bad after 4 days of getting used to it :8
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i welded the retared drivers side ek only special retaration mount together with some random bolts all good for now.. also my rear tourqe mount is filled (i swapped from the ---- hatch)
but on my ---- hatch i just had all 3 tourqe mounts filled with window weld and my drivers side top mount was torn in half and had no problems cuz it just holds the weight of the motor not the tourqe.. so i suggest you remover your 2 front tourqe mounts (they are the front lower ones ac compressor bracket and trans bracket on the opposite side) and fill with window weld.. reinstall few hours later and just take it easy for a few days.. or like i did just wash with some good cleaner like purple power.. and just fill when on the car (thats what i did) good luck ;) |
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Youve got to post some pics of how you welded the drivers side mount. Your engine still has to move slightly and I would think that would break the welds on that mount, especially when slamming gears and such. If you could just take pics of all your mounts so I can see how you have things set up that would be clutch. Maybe that would give me some ideas.
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ok ill try to get you a snap shot just got back from cam chicks be hot there any way ill get you some pics best thing is window weld the 2 front lower tourqe mounts and call it a day its holding up so far but once im boosting it im filling the lower tourqe mounts with window weld and replacing the the drivers side to a dc style
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here is our solution to the super shitty EK mount. so far it seems to be good. although, the only thing i have to go on is a phone call that basically says, " i have beat the hell out of this thing since i left your house and all is good"
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clean mount homemadeexhaust ftw i used kteller 3in to a ebay can but im gunna ad a resonater b/c after 9pm i pigs like to ---- with me
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have you tried running the NRG engine "stiffy" as they call it seems to work ok for me but im not making your power level and i have a 6 puck sprung clutch
its the gay little shock it attaches to the mount and then to the chassi via the bolt that holds the upper A arm in the suspension http://www.modacar.com/Merchant2/gra...ginedamper.jpg if it doesnt work im sure you could mod it to be just a solid chunk of metal. Ebay has CDM versions for cheap best of luck man and nice work on the setup |
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when i bought my ef hatch, they guy had welded the front motor mount. then when i turbo'd it, i window welded the two side mounts. the rear was too big of a bitch to get to, so thats probably ripped to shreds, but i left it. everything fine, but ive only been running boost for about 1-2 months, and only had the car for about 6.
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