mwa ha ha...i turbo'd another EW4-- pics
 

ok, so ive gone and turbo another EW4. Im not sure why i like to do it but its funny turboing the first fuel injected honda engine. lol

Well I went ahead and basically used the old kit that was on my other 1st gen crx. considering i shouldn't need it if the b18 is to go in there eventually.

SETUP:
-custom turbo mani
-stock DSM 1g BOV
-DSM SMIC
-apexi afc
-basic A/F guage
-boost gauge
-oil cooler
-OP sensor oil feed T
-side pipe exhaust
-del sol duel bin radiator
-DSM five blade fan
-fmu.....grrrrrrr


Anyway, this kit uses the first turbo manifold i ever made...aka "old and busted". The kit also uses smic that sits inside the engine bay, however this time i fab'ed up a heatsheild in order to keep things a little cooler, as well as molding in a hood scoop and cowling the hood in order to let that air back out. Currently i left the stock 1g DSM BOV on untill i decide to the put on the hks ssq or the apexi duel chamber.Im not looking to boost over 8psi so ive left the intenall wastegate alone. Currently using an fmu for lack of an eaisier fuel mannagement(get back to that in a sec).OIl feed is just the basic pull from the oil pressure sensor, only thing a little different is that i put an oil cooler inline to the turbo in an effort to add a little insurance. one thing i did with the cooler is that the line that travels from the cooler to the turbo is actually arched, i did this so that when the engine is turned off all of the oil in the cooler will not flow into the oil pan, thus have a supply of oil stored for the turbo on the next start up.

oh and one more fun little detail, aside from mounting the del sol radiator (done last month in order to save time that the car would be parked), i had one hell of a time with the old manifold. Since the manifold was designed on one of my other 1st gen crx's I was under the inpression it would fit, well unfortunnatly the frame on this new crx is pushed in one inch on the front. so had to cut some of the cross member in order for the kit to fit. thus meaning more support must be added to the frame of the car, soooo..... i welded on a damn section of chromemolly tubing to the damn frame.hahaha

currently for some reason the car is idleing like crap!!!!!!!!!!!. idle is surging and when rev'ed sounds as if a cylinder is missing. so obvioulsy im going to get new plugs today. However here is a question for you


2. tuning-------ok so obviously the computer in this car is a reliac, its a PE7. so all you tuning guys...what the ---- can i do with that ecu, is it even chipable?



well heres an over shot of the car
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heres the mani and turbo, it was a t25 but i swapped out the hot side for one witha little more kit to it
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oil cooler, setup high on radiator to avoid road crap hitting it
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intercooler and heatshield, as well as "ol trusty" DSM blow off
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heres the chromemolly section i welded to the frame, travels the whole width of the chassis
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Heres the dash, i still the back harness for the afc , A/F gauge was mounted in dash, tinted as well
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Heres my exhaust, twin pipes coming right out behind the driver door, and the flow is actualy 50/50, i actually welded in a Y right after the oil pan.
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ok yea just for proof.lol
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Moleded in hood scoop(------- perfectly done to thank you very much), i also cowled the hood in an attemp to let the air flow better, might end up venting the intercooler section threw the wheel well with some luevers or something
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since the battery is now in the back of the car(would have a pic but the optimus redtop is currently hidden under 4 subs, amp, cap, and two sets of 3.5 speakers. lol). I ended up running a heavier gauge wire instead of just useing amp wire for my power. So instead of just saying to hell with the old amp power wire, i ran it the the negative terminal on the battery and used it to attach to my rallysport full engine round kit. lol so the cars ground in the back , front and all to the engine.
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old busted hotness lol, wtf am i do do?
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still debating what injetors to use
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And this is what happens to my shop i have to stop my project and work on customers cars threwout the day, my ---- gets trashed. lol
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and none of this would have been possible without............
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give me your imput guys, becuase the cars is running ruff and im not totally sure as to why? this kit worked great on my other on thats sitting parked two cars away.lol

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Looks solid! To post pics you have to upload them to a web server, sign up for www.photobucket.com. Then you just need to link to the images.

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Dood, that's pretty damn sweet. I love abusing those old E-engines too! I always dreamed about turbocharging my 81 Civic sedan, but it has the CVCC head, so packaging would be a bitch. Keep beating those old E-engines! Yeah, B-engines make like eleventy billion times more power, but the cool factor of an old ass turbo engine is undeniable.

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ok addaed pics, anyone have an opinion on the problem at hand?

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looks good solid work ^-^

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This car is the sweetest ---- EVAR!! Anyone with the balls to dig into the old third-gen Civic chassis and the E-motor like you is a hero in my book!

That manifold, does it really have 2 180 degree bends? If so, your turbo placement and packaging layout makes mine look super conventional. Way to go with the outside the box thinking!

BTW, you mentioned having done this to other EW4's? How much power are you able to make with this kind of equipment?

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im not sure on teh power gain to tell you the truth.but My other was fast as ----. When the boost kicked in your head hit the seat . lol. With this setup in the car i took a vr6, full built b18 integra, and a couple other cars.

and yes the manifold has 2 180s. lol back in the day when i mad this manifold i didn't know how to clock a turbo, so i just fab'ed the manifold so i wouldn't jave to .

the mani worked great though, gave me enough lag to get the lgith as little car rolling. Damn thing would still burn tires all the way untill mid 4th gear though.

But with this setup the boost kick in at about 3200 rpms, which is damn near perfect considering the powerband on the cam kicks in a 3500. so the power comes on really well. this car is a rocket with the turbo on there.

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Those cars look sexy'er than ferarri's.

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fuckyea I like it !! Pretty original on that bonnet scoop :6
solid HMT

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trust me HMT is getting sprayed on the underside of the hood once i finish the fiberglassing.lol

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is that obd -1?

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dude its an 86.lol

to tell you the truth i think it might be the great grandfather of obd all together.

to my knowledge this is the first fuel injection engine honda ever made,.

bvut if im wrong someone please correct me. if i am than hopefully i have some more tuneing options

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Not the first fuel injection engine Honda made.

But it is pre-OBD. If it's the same as my '86 Accord then the ecu has a LED on it that blinks the CEL code instead of a light in the cluster.

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the prg-fi light is on the dash

there is however a window with four LEDs in it on the ecu. its a pain in the ass to read the codes off of becuas eits under the damn passenger seat.

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Yea the pgm-fi light is on the dash but it doesn't blink the code, it just lights up to tell you to go look under the seat O0

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correct


any ideas on my problems?

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yup, just like on my g1teg. O0

and your iisue may be from the afc and the FMU combo...I dunno tho.

whne i b00sted my 87 teg (the d16a1 is a cousin of the ew engines also with vac advance) i too had to use an fmu...but things were fine (in and out of boost) so, i suspect the afc is the culprit.

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IMO its your fmu. try pulling fuel with the afc, or useing bigger injectors w/o the fmu.

another thing it could be is a vacume leak, or the tps or even the electronic air control valve on the back of the I/M. anyways nice setup, good to see another first gener, ever check out www.redpepperracing.com ? anyways. nice setup

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well technically afc, isn't hooked up yet. lol. freind has the back part of the harness.

and ie already fixed the huge vacume leak. thought of that last night so i boost checked it today and found were a helping friend A=didn't clap down on of the couplers all the way, and B= dind't install the boost gauge hose correctly either.lol

Also got new plugs and wires. fixed the missing in rev-up
also went old school and pulled my plugs. A= temp. line on the ground strap is a bit on the hot side, next a stage colder on the plugs, last time i think i used ngk iridiums, what is your guys opninion on plug type. B= plugs on 2,3 are a little tanned on the porclien, while 1,4 are almost white. C=unfortunatly ther are some of those horrible little black specs on the porclien. Which we all know is tell tale sign of predetonation. so im not to happy about that

and no i have never seen that site before. that would have been helpful like two years ago.lol its just really cool to see other people with 1gs.

and of all things exhaust is putting out a good amount of smoke, which most likely mean an oil restrictor is in order.

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ok so i got a damn oil restricitor, and a damn guage to go witih it for shits and giggles.lol basic balll swivel restictor with the lever just lick steath's sugestions oog setting the damn thing?