moates 2 timer/p06 question
 

hey guys, no one seems to know about this, i posted on thezcr and crxcommunity and got nothing.

hopefully someone can help..



hey guys i got the moates 2 timer switch for my p06 ecu.. i think everything is alright but im not sure, i dont mess with electronics alot...

a few questions..

does it matter which way the chip is facing? i faced the lettering the same way A as it was so i think its right and B going in the same direction as all the other writing inside the ecu

with the moates 2 timer switch, do i just run it to a ground, but throw a switch in the middle and bam im done? im thinking thats the concept, once again just not 100% positive its all japenese to me, litterally.

here are some pics,i think its pretty cool.. it goes : moates 2 timer switch, this little holder for chips, and then an sst 27sf512 chip

pics to help.

https://i212.photobucket.com/albums/...1/CIMG0794.jpg

https://i212.photobucket.com/albums/...1/CIMG0795.jpg

https://i212.photobucket.com/albums/...1/CIMG0797.jpg

https://i212.photobucket.com/albums/...1/CIMG0798.jpg

https://i212.photobucket.com/albums/...1/CIMG0799.jpg

https://i212.photobucket.com/albums/...1/CIMG0800.jpg

https://i212.photobucket.com/albums/...1/CIMG0801.jpg


thanks,

matt

Re: moates 2 timer/p06 question
 

yes it matters which way the chip is facing, ignore writing on other chips

see the little half moon cutout on the end of the chip? line it up with the latch on your zif socket "this little holder for chips", the halfmoons on the 2timer, and the one on your ecu. basically your last pic looks correct from what I can see.

yes run that wire to a switch to ground.

Re: moates 2 timer/p06 question
 

chip in the wrong direction will fry the chip and could destroy other electrical devices

Re: moates 2 timer/p06 question
 

oh okay cool, so... i took everything off just to be safe. starting with the ecu, i matched the half moon with the 2 timer, then added the zif socket, which has no half moon (im assuming it doesnt matter cause there isnt a chip in it.. and it didnt fit the other way) and then the chip, with the half moon facing the same way...

- does anyone know how ill be able to use it? what when its on the dyno, create a map on the regular ecu, then put in the chip and make a second map, and the ground will bypass the ecu map and run the map off of the chip, creating 2 maps???

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...1/CIMG0825.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...1/CIMG0826.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...1/CIMG0827.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...1/CIMG0829.jpg

and moates switch(closest one), the little black wire goes to a ground off of the switch to the left, positive from the ecu isnt connected...

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...1/CIMG0824.jpg


thanks,

matt

Re: moates 2 timer/p06 question
 

just ------- learn to use your ------- head
http://www.moates.net/documentation....entation_id=27
wow 2 seconds.

Program your chip with 2 bins instead of one bin on half the chip and the other half blank.

Run the white wire to ground to read the lower address, remove ground from that address and your ecu will read the upper address

J1 needs to be jumpered for either to work otherwise your ecu will read the stock bin. I noticed you have j1 run to a switch that's the only reason I mentioned it.

This isn't even in the right forum. The proper forum even tells you how to make a 2timer cause its simple

Re: moates 2 timer/p06 question
 

ya i read that on the moates site, thats why im posting here.. none of that makes any sense...

whats j1? what do you mean by jumpered?

Re: moates 2 timer/p06 question
 

see the two grey wires in your picture here? See the J1 printed on the board? if the two points are connected to each other (jumpered) then the ecu will read the memory chip you put in there. If the two points are left unconnected then your ecu will read the factory stock bin. All of this information is easily found by searching.

Re: moates 2 timer/p06 question
 

oh okay, so what your saying is that since the j1 is already jumpered, when that switch is connected, i will be able to run both the upper and lower address from the moates switch, but if it isnt switched, ill run a stock map. im assuming moates wanted you to saughter a wire into the j1 spot so it would be able to do this all the time, but i bought the ecu with the j1 jumpered, it was going to be used as a security device (1 map boosted/one map stock NA), but now im running 2 maps boosted (street/strip), and then the security switch(stock map)

is this correct?am i all set?

thanks,

matt

-after reading this all about 5 times, it really does make sense to me, thanks again i really appreciate the help stenseltizm

Re: moates 2 timer/p06 question
 

Sounds like you've got it, don't mind me bitching not sure what my problem was I ask dumb ?'s all the time

Re: moates 2 timer/p06 question
 

ha its cool bud my bad i should have put this in the other section. ha before i was just throwing chips into a computer i bought, but now i understand it, will a shop tuning it know the process of how to make the 2 maps (erasing and all i dont have a chip burner) but i do have 2 chips


thanks,

matt

Re: moates 2 timer/p06 question
 

If they don't I'd be leary of using them, it's so damn simple. The chips we use have twice the space needed for a honda ecu so we only utilize half the chip normally. They need to burn the normally 'wasted' space with the second bin instead of leaving it blank as an 'offset'. The 2timer lets you switch to that bin.

But even if they can't do it and you still go with them just have them make your two different tunes and put them on the two separate chips. then also have them dumped to a flash drive and you can email someone on here that has a chip burner and can double them up for you on a chip.

Re: moates 2 timer/p06 question
 

iim going to use a 2timer and have one map with my normal tune on it and the other have a 4500 rpm rev limiter, boost cut at 1 psi and launch control at 2 grand so that i can let people drive it if need be and i know they wont be giving it high R's, theres no chance of hitting boost, and they wont be able to do burn outs or burn up my clutch.


think that sounds like an alright idea?

Re: moates 2 timer/p06 question
 

I always planned on doing exactly just that for 'valet mode' and I think alot of people do. I just never got around to it, my car never gets touched lately. :'( ---- it still has a crome basemap even though I bought ectune during the 4th sale.

Re: moates 2 timer/p06 question
 

thats to bad, i think valet mode would be pretty ------ funny. everyone always wants to drive my car and having it fall on its face when they try to rip on it would be awesome

Re: moates 2 timer/p06 question
 

I did that to a friends car before I got my license back and had never used crome before. I figured it would be best to test ---- out at low rpms so I threw a 4k rev limit on it and ---- like that to start out and play around with getting my wideband to work etc.

It was great watching someone leaning forward expecting ---- to keep pulling then it falls on it's face. He was pissed

Re: moates 2 timer/p06 question
 

ha thats wrong! hah no i dont like people beating on my car either, the only person who has driven it is my friend.. who wasnt even close to used to the clutch.. we went to a gas station in the rain, 2am. he spun the tires all the way to the parking spot, then backing out stalled, forgot to put it in gear, so he hit 6500rpms, then stalled. spun the tires, and chirped them into 2nd (ha dumed the clutch betweeen shifts only at like 3K) and forgot to turn on the lights... just so happens that there are 2 cops in the parking lot accross the street...talking. they didnt pull us over, i have no clue how we got away with that.