Max HP on regular axels??
 

My brother's stock civic has snapped both axels a couple years back; once at a local picnic from being a show-off (simple, regular burnout launch at 2500-3k rpm) and the other side at the track on take off (burnout launch also at around 2500-3k rpm). Really dont know wtf was going on!

Looking at all these 300hp plus turbo'd motors, no one really has said anything about upgrading axels to those 300 rated hp ones or 400 rated ones. Not worth buying a pair of those that goes for hundreds of dollars huh? Then again, what was up with the above story on my bro's civic? Bad Karma??

1. Anyone got similar stories?
2. Any ideas how much HP stock civic axels can handle?
3. If I was going to join the 400 hp vitara / tt club, should I care to change my axels?

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i dident want to read all that up there but i have a story. my buddy once bought a one of those 400hp axles. mounted his slicks for the track and as he launched his 187 hp b16 he broke the 400 hp axle and the stock one lived. just a funny story.

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loLz... OEM and Stock replacements FTW.. ---- that!
Life time warranties one factory replacements at Advance auto ownz!

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Stock axles are fine if you can pre-load them and dont have wheel hop issues

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big slicks break axles



You wont have slicks that large

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I launched at redline with stock d-series axles on 23 inch slicks and never broke one at the track. If you preload you will be fine.

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Moving up to a 24.5+tire and axles start falling apart




Before they had aftermarket ones watching all the 10 sec cars replacing axles after each pass back in the day was kinda funny



I still remember a buddy of mine made 4 passes ripped every axle in half off the line on each pass.



Pep Boys got alot of broken teg axles back then

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i have 400+whp and 24.5X8.5 slicks dumpin the clutch at 6500rpm and never broke a stock teg axle

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I would imagine civic axels, atleast the drivers side, breaking easier since it doesnt have a midshaft. Correct me if I'm wrong, but tegs are all equal lengths.

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i would like to know this to.

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I say upgrade to hf axles much lighter

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accord are hard on axles even with a halfshaft set-up

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My friend's b18a1 motor, my brothers 95 LS, and my boi's 98 GSR all have a midshaft.

My CRX DX, brother's SI hatch, my 96 EX coupe, and other Bro's 00 EX coupe all have the long ass drivers side axel with the rubber balancer around it.

So I think it is safe to say that all B series motors comes with midshafts as D's don't. Would this also conclude that perhaps it is easier to snap axels on D series than B !?

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Oh yeah, forgot about accords..

My 94 Accord EX coupe w/ manual tranny has a midshaft, but I remembered a friends same year accord 4 dr with automatic tranny doesn't. Difference between auto's to manual? I'll leave that to people with more knowledge.

Re: Max HP on regular axels??
 

Many d series have halfshafts



Just not ones from the states



all have the bastard long axle

Re: Max HP on regular axels??
 

just take the slack out of the driveline befor u launch and they will be ok

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How do you preload anyway?

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Pull the ebrake with the button in, give it gas to desired launch, let the clutch out until your backend squats, then when the light hits green dump the ebrake and clutch at the same time while flooring the gas.

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Takes some practice, but makes for some sweet and fast launches.

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and shafts stay in one epice

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thats how u managed that 12.6 huh?? ---- ima give this a try... is it hard on the clutch??

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That wouldnt actually put u under false start would it? I would imagine while getting your back end to squat, the car will also shift forward a little before the light goes off.

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my friend's civic made 400hp and he ran stock axles for like 30 passes on 24inch slicks and never once broke an axle

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ok car is a 98 civic h22 swap i forget if i have the prelude half shaft or the accord one but i use a axle out of a 90-93 teg and one from a 89 teg if i can remember its been 5 years since i swaped the motor and still running the same axles

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Trip the first stage light, then do what Pat says and you can let the clutch out a hair to pull you up to trip the 2nd lightwhile keeping the throttle at a constant position and using the clutch to 'pull' or 'hold' you not too mention if you go even further you're still 'O.K.', but deep-staging sucks for ETs and Trap Speeds.


JP

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I have repeatedly raped my ---- (500 whp) on stock prelude axles, and theyre still going strong. wheelhop and shocking the axles are what break them. As mewntioned: preloading is your friend...

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NIIIIIIICCCCEE!!
When you said "let the clutch out a hair to pull you up to trip the 2nd light while keeping throttle at a constant position" - I will already be burning rubber from the first stage to 2nd light right? While I await the YELLOW, YELLOW, GREEN.

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why would you say you raped your ---- it ran for what a week or two, not really hard usage in my book

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Staging lights to where it can trip the tree, not the acutal tree lights themselves. Ever raced?


JP

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Was still running when i pulled the motor out of it.. Its called preventative maintenance jack ass... ... Your book is like gay porn... I dont give two shits about it.. In case you missed the memo: Neither do 80 percent of the people here... Trust me theyeve been RAPED... HARD!!



LOL

Now... SHUT UP!!!


KTHXBYE

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Re: Max HP on regular axels??
 

i think it debend on how can you treat your axel