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I need some advice. I currently have a 14b hung off a DOHC ZC with an HF mani and a BMC Racing adapter plate. Now my question is, would I make more power with this setup, or (brace yourselves) an SSAutoChrome mani?

Now before you start flaming away hear me out. I have done alot of research on them and weeded out the countless number of people who have never even used an SSAC mani that told me it would crack. I found a good number of people that have had good success with them simply by bracing the turbo itself to the block, so that the mani did not have to support its weight (now its only job is to transport exhaust gasses, not hold up a 20lb turbo/downpipe). If I did that and went back over the welds Im 90% positive I will have success with it.

So, which will make more power?

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that 10 % is gonna own you, trust me.

but hey i cant make you.

also, if u get that mani, it wont bolt to your turbo.

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T25 flange = 14b flange.

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Ohh, and you sound like one of the messengers. Im right, arent I?

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ss autocrap is a T3 flange

what are you talking about ???

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the ss has a t3 flange which wouldn't work with your 14b. it wouldn't be worth all the trouble to get that mani to work properly if you already have the hf mani setup. is your hf mani ported? if not, do that instead. the minimal gain, if any, achived by a tubular mani on your setup would not be worth the cash or trouble.

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One of the people that has never used an SSAC mani, but is simply repeating what someone else told him.

Its a T25. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33742

But were getting off subject. Which would make more power?

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hmmm... i never saw that he sold that one. although, by the looks of it, thats not the same flange as a mitsubishi eclipse t25. i would double check, there are 2 different style t25 flanges that i know of. the style on the mitsubishi eclipse has a round inlet hole. there is also a nissan style.

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umm. acutally i had one.
but i dont see the point in asking opinions when you already made a desicion.
its like asking if u should get the red car or the blue car when u already decided you want the red one.

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You can always upgrade can't you?

But then again for another 85 bucks I could have a shitbird tubular. Are there any other quality manifolds out there that wont break the bank?

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So you have to actually take the plunge in the ass and go out and buy one before you can give advice? I've heard enough and seen enough evidence to know they are ---- without having to buy one. Yes, I have one of those piles of ---- on my car right now, so yes I can talk ---- about them. I'm going to brace the turbo and hope and pray my wastegate doesn't fall off this piece of ----. At least I can say I didn't pay for mine. :P

If you're going to go buy one of those pieces of ----, take it straight to the machine shop and get the pateing surfaces milled. Head flange, turbo flnage and wastegate flange. They're all warped.
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Ok.

Are there any other manifolds out there equivalent to the shitbird tubular for around the same price, that would be an improvement over my hf/adapter plate mani?

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BMC has some for around $150. I know he had a couple listed on Egay not too long ago. For $150 you can't go wrong with that manifold. :-\
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u could always buy some schedule 40 tubing from www.mcmaster.com and a flange from BMC for about 75 bones. find a friend w/ a Mig welder and a bandsaw. have him/her teach you how to weld, and make a log for real cheap and learn something.

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The BMC mani's look like ass, no offense.

Unless I go for a tubular / external wastegate'd manifold I may as well stick with the HF mani.

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ive seen a few of the greddy manifolds that came with their d series kits around h-t for about $90-100, i thought about getting one except ive already had my DP made for hf mani

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...919844463&rd=1

doesnt get much better than this for the price...21 hrs left...lovefab stainless piece

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threads like this inspired my sig. You can even weld supports to it if you want

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hahahhaha, lmfao, rofl, ttyl

have a nice day, im done for the night