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Del Slow 1 03-30-2005 10:34 AM

Life span of my baby?
 
I have a D series. with 120 thous. :'( miles....I was boosting to a low 6 or 7 pounds steady every day.. MAYBE 9 or 10 at the track once.. but Thats alotta miles.. how long if Car runs alright will she last ? i will cry when she goes in smoke lol... My Fuel will be there with 450 Dsm's and im going ----- with a VAFC, and will try hard to get it tuned as well as me and my friends can..but Will she still last for a little while?..Rebuild will be done in the futue! F.U.T.U.R.E! ;D

nonvtec 03-30-2005 11:37 AM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 
Don't puss out, get uberdata. I put 15K no my D15b7 that started out at 145K. Your motor will have no problems if you get rid of that vafc.

djfob 03-30-2005 11:45 AM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 
I started boosting my z6 at 150k and it's still holding up fine completely stock including clutch(the clutch is slipping now but thats a given) :P

95RedEX 03-30-2005 11:58 AM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 
120K is barely broken in.

idiot-stick 03-30-2005 12:27 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 
It will only last 572.4 more miles. Use sparingly

izzie 03-30-2005 12:34 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 

Originally Posted by SloS13
It will only last 572.4 more miles. Use sparingly

not quite sure id agree with that but i think soon you will start experiencing reliability issues sometime in the near future. oh yeh and use those 572.4 miles to crash into Slo13s car >:D!

turboDA6 03-30-2005 12:48 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 

Originally Posted by izzie

Originally Posted by SloS13
It will only last 572.4 more miles. Use sparingly

not quite sure id agree with that but i think soon you will start experiencing reliability issues sometime in the near future. oh yeh and use those 572.4 miles to crash into Slo13s car >:D!

i think he meant with the vafc... on uber, ive been boosted for a year, prolly over 10k miles already, 10psi daily.

SkunT 03-30-2005 01:02 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 
im boosting the hell out of my car every day with 171,000 miles on the ticker. get uberdata, and be worry free.

http://stores.ebay.com/projekTuning_...enameZL2QQtZkm

projekteg will hook you right up. best and the cheapest around. ;)

D-Series 03-30-2005 03:56 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 
Sorry to sound stupid but im unknowledged in engine management ... what should i go with on my 93 civic LX (d15B7)...i always just figured it would be better to spend the extra cashp on SAFC..

...are there any threads about uberdata...search is kind of broad

david_jones001 03-30-2005 05:53 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 
yea but how much are u guys boostin, im wondering if a stock d16z6 will hold 10 psi for a long time

hotrex 03-30-2005 06:32 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 
haha my gsr has 145,000 on it, and its boosted, uses no oil and purrs like a kitten, gotta love the homo driven highway miles... who cares how long it lasts..... they sell more. ;D

93turbo16 03-30-2005 06:37 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 

Originally Posted by david_jones001
yea but how much are u guys boostin, im wondering if a stock d16z6 will hold 10 psi for a long time

If you drive it sensibly and have a good tune on it, the motor will last. If you do stupid ---- like 4th gear pulls and un tuned, then don't expect it to last.

jhmcrx 03-30-2005 07:11 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 

Originally Posted by hotrex
who cares how long it lasts..... they sell more. ;D

so true, i mean $350 give or take a few and you can have another used motor...and they can last for a while at that

d16tuner 03-30-2005 08:38 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 

Originally Posted by jhmcrx

Originally Posted by hotrex
who cares how long it lasts..... they sell more. ;D

so true, i mean $350 give or take a few and you can have another used motor...and they can last for a while at that

yeah, but swapping new engines in can get old fast. I was sick of it after the 3rd engine, which is why I'm not boosting right now. Maybe if I had a garage... But right now I'm stuck with a carport that I really don't feel safe leaving my stuff out in. All the parts and tools in the kitchen was causing some serious marital stress! I guess when I finally build a garage I can destroy all the engines I want! ;D

jhmcrx 03-30-2005 08:50 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 
dude, were in the same boat i live in an apt with no carport/anything tho :-X and you are right about it gettin old fast! it gets hard finding somewhere to do what you gotta do :-\

david_jones001 03-30-2005 09:02 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 
maybe if u guys used the right type of managment, you whouldnt need to change engines so much. no offense, i dont know what u were running

jhmcrx 03-30-2005 09:05 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 
yah, but theres only so much you can do for a tired motor :-\ (ie 160ish +)

d16tuner 03-30-2005 09:13 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 

Originally Posted by david_jones001
maybe if u guys used the right type of managment, you whouldnt need to change engines so much. no offense, i dont know what u were running

Personally was using uberdata and an afc, but I think I had a fuel problem that didn't relate to the tuning. There was actually something wrong with the fuel system (other than the pump) that kept causing me to run lean no matter how much fuel I programmed in. Next time I boost I'll get a fuel pressure gauge and probably a vac gauge so I can tell what is happening. Oh well, lesson learned. Back to your normally scheduled thread.

SkunT 03-30-2005 09:22 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 

Originally Posted by 93turbo16

Originally Posted by david_jones001
yea but how much are u guys boostin, im wondering if a stock d16z6 will hold 10 psi for a long time

If you drive it sensibly and have a good tune on it, the motor will last. If you do stupid ---- like 4th gear pulls and un tuned, then don't expect it to last.


---- you, i do it almost everyday comming home from work on the off ramp. holding fine for me.


ooo...and i hold a solid 5psi untuned. tuned, i will raise it to 10-12 with no worries. bbka daily drives his stock boosted sohc, i think 12psi, and no problems what so ever. its all in how you build it. ;)

jhmcrx 03-30-2005 09:27 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 
since you guys are talkin abuot tunning, about how long SHOULD it really take a pro to decently dyno tune your car?

d16tuner 03-30-2005 09:29 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 

Originally Posted by junkyard racer

Originally Posted by 93turbo16

Originally Posted by david_jones001
yea but how much are u guys boostin, im wondering if a stock d16z6 will hold 10 psi for a long time

If you drive it sensibly and have a good tune on it, the motor will last. If you do stupid ---- like 4th gear pulls and un tuned, then don't expect it to last.


---- you, i do it almost everyday comming home from work on the off ramp. holding fine for me.


ooo...and i hold a solid 5psi untuned. tuned, i will raise it to 10-12 with no worries. bbka daily drives his stock boosted sohc, i think 12psi, and no problems what so ever. its all in how you build it. ;)

That doesn't mean it will work for everyone. Your rude and stupid comment doesn't help answer the question. Tuning IS very important, and high-load high-boost driving is not good for longevity - both points being related to the question asked. Regardless of what you personally do to your car, your post, in general, is ridiculous. >:(

iflybye 03-30-2005 11:07 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 

Originally Posted by junkyard racer
ooo...and i hold a solid 5psi untuned. tuned, i will raise it to 10-12 with no worries. bbka daily drives his stock boosted sohc, i think 12psi, and no problems what so ever. its all in how you build it. ;)

Hey Frank are your head bolts replaced with ARP head studs and a new gasket ?

93turbo16 03-30-2005 11:48 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 

Originally Posted by junkyard racer

Originally Posted by 93turbo16

Originally Posted by david_jones001
yea but how much are u guys boostin, im wondering if a stock d16z6 will hold 10 psi for a long time

If you drive it sensibly and have a good tune on it, the motor will last. If you do stupid ---- like 4th gear pulls and un tuned, then don't expect it to last.


---- you, i do it almost everyday comming home from work on the off ramp. holding fine for me.


ooo...and i hold a solid 5psi untuned. tuned, i will raise it to 10-12 with no worries. bbka daily drives his stock boosted sohc, i think 12psi, and no problems what so ever. its all in how you build it. ;)

Hey bud. I am running the same ---- as you. Just to clear it up, Z6 on 10psi for how ever long. It is my daily driver and handles trips 2 hours to my house every weekend. It holds just fine with a good tune. But it isn't smart to do that ---- on an untuned map. How many motors go up because dumb ass people do 4th gear pulls or try to max their car out untuned. I am not saying it happens everytime.

It is rediculous of the ammount of ignorance.

90turbohatch 03-31-2005 12:24 AM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 

Originally Posted by D-Series
Sorry to sound stupid but im unknowledged in engine management ... what should i go with on my 93 civic LX (d15B7)...i always just figured it would be better to spend the extra cashp on SAFC..

...are there any threads about uberdata...search is kind of broad

Read this. ;) There is a link for uberdata. https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...3929#msg123929

d16y8crx 03-31-2005 03:11 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 
not to sound stupid, but whats a 4th gear pull? ive never heard that phrase before

ghettoturbo 03-31-2005 03:17 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 
umm, getting on it in fourth gear

SkunT 03-31-2005 03:21 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 

Originally Posted by 93turbo16

Originally Posted by junkyard racer

Originally Posted by 93turbo16

Originally Posted by david_jones001
yea but how much are u guys boostin, im wondering if a stock d16z6 will hold 10 psi for a long time

If you drive it sensibly and have a good tune on it, the motor will last. If you do stupid ---- like 4th gear pulls and un tuned, then don't expect it to last.


---- you, i do it almost everyday comming home from work on the off ramp. holding fine for me.


ooo...and i hold a solid 5psi untuned. tuned, i will raise it to 10-12 with no worries. bbka daily drives his stock boosted sohc, i think 12psi, and no problems what so ever. its all in how you build it. ;)

Hey bud. I am running the same ---- as you. Just to clear it up, Z6 on 10psi for how ever long. It is my daily driver and handles trips 2 hours to my house every weekend. It holds just fine with a good tune. But it isn't smart to do that ---- on an untuned map. How many motors go up because dumb ass people do 4th gear pulls or try to max their car out untuned. I am not saying it happens everytime.

It is rediculous of the ammount of ignorance.

so far, on my base map, i have made 2 trips, both not under 70mph either way. "racing" from 70mph rolls...bacially, i beat the living piss out of my car anywhere I go. I love my turbo on the highway! its alot of fun. although, im still only at a SOLID 5psi, but when i finally get the spring/chain WG fixed, it still wont scare me to drive the way I do. I only have 30 more days with my car, so im gonna make the best of it. ;) and about the ignorance part...i am telling nothing but the truth. call it ignorance if you want to, but its the truth, so...take it for what you will. ooohh yeah, someone mentioned something about maxing out there car in 4th gear, the other day on my second trip i had the perfect oppertunity to max out my car, maxed out every gear, once i was in 5th gear, the car wouldnt go past 5000 rpm's. thats with the speed limiter disabled. i drive my car the way i want to...havent had to many problems with it yet. the jb welded hole in the block is still holding also, incase if anyone cares.



Originally Posted by iflybye
Hey Frank are your head bolts replaced with ARP head studs and a new gasket ?

stock head bolts, copper sprayed headgasket.

iflybye 03-31-2005 05:25 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 

Originally Posted by junkyard racer
stock head bolts, copper sprayed headgasket.

You knew bbka ARP studded his Head, because he had headlift didn't you ?

SkunT 03-31-2005 06:15 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 

Originally Posted by iflybye

Originally Posted by junkyard racer
stock head bolts, copper sprayed headgasket.

You knew bbka ARP studded his Head, because he had headlift didn't you ?

whats your point? the point of this thread was "can i boost my 120,000 mile motor" and i simply stated, yes, you can. and told my story.

iflybye 03-31-2005 06:22 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 

Originally Posted by junkyard racer

Originally Posted by iflybye

Originally Posted by junkyard racer
stock head bolts, copper sprayed headgasket.

You knew bbka ARP studded his Head, because he had headlift didn't you ?

whats your point? the point of this thread was "can i boost my 120,000 mile motor" and i simply stated, yes, you can. and told my story.

My point is was you referenced bbka's motor as an example and stated its all about how its built. He ARP studded his head so he can boost 10-12 PSI. It was just a heads up cuz most suggest the ARP head studding on high boost.
That is all

SkunT 03-31-2005 06:37 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 
high boost isnt 10-12psi with the right management.

I know a guy here, who runs 15psi on a stock a6 tuned with a afc. it didnt last long, but it worked. its all in how you tune it.

(i would never run over 10psi in a daily driver, i would run 12 at the track, with stock internals)


point made, with correct fuel management, you will have no problem running 8-10psi on your 120,000 motor.

iflybye 03-31-2005 06:47 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 

Originally Posted by Del Slow 1
I have a D series. with 120 thous. :'( miles....I was boosting to a low 6 or 7 pounds steady every day.. MAYBE 9 or 10 at the track once.. but Thats alotta miles.. how long if Car runs alright will she last ? i will cry when she goes in smoke lol... My Fuel will be there with 450 Dsm's and im going ----- with a VAFC, and will try hard to get it tuned as well as me and my friends can..but Will she still last for a little while?..Rebuild will be done in the futue! F.U.T.U.R.E! ;D

I turbod my DelSol (D16z6) at 120k. Running Uberdata tuned. No problems so far at 6psi 3000 miles later.
Oh that reminds me I need to change my oil :o

93turbo16 04-01-2005 07:39 AM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 

Originally Posted by junkyard racer


so far, on my base map, i have made 2 trips, both not under 70mph either way. "racing" from 70mph rolls...bacially, i beat the living piss out of my car anywhere I go. I love my turbo on the highway! its alot of fun. although, im still only at a SOLID 5psi, but when i finally get the spring/chain WG fixed, it still wont scare me to drive the way I do. I only have 30 more days with my car, so im gonna make the best of it. ;) and about the ignorance part...i am telling nothing but the truth. call it ignorance if you want to, but its the truth, so...take it for what you will. ooohh yeah, someone mentioned something about maxing out there car in 4th gear, the other day on my second trip i had the perfect oppertunity to max out my car, maxed out every gear, once i was in 5th gear, the car wouldnt go past 5000 rpm's. thats with the speed limiter disabled. i drive my car the way i want to...havent had to many problems with it yet. the jb welded hole in the block is still holding also, incase if anyone cares.

I honestly don't care too much what you do with your personal car. But telling people that you can go turbo untuned, jump on the high way and start doing some 70mph pulls to red line is DUMB. Period. But it is cool that single cams are a hell of a lot cheaper to play around with. That is why I have one too. I do like the JB weld though, I wouldn't expect anything less from your setup. Made everything work, espscially that chain. I almost pulled one of those off a while back, but my chain link was retarded. So I just used a 14B wastegate instead of a 16G.

BoosTedZSix 04-01-2005 07:53 AM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 
it really doesnt matter how many miles you have on your car. its how well its been maintained. my car had 212k miles on it when i boosted it. ran good at 10 psi. and if i would have left it at 10 psi im pretty sure the motor would still be kickin today. haha. but 15 psi with a map that was tuned for 10 psi just doesnt work out very well. but oh well. those things are a dime a dozen. just boost it. dont beat the crap out of it day in and day out. if you want to be safe just get a safe street tune because thats what your car will see everyday. good luck

SkunT 04-01-2005 03:27 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 

Originally Posted by BoosTedZSix
it really doesnt matter how many miles you have on your car. its how well its been maintained.

exactly...

look at this valve-train, just turned 172,000 on the way home...mobil1 since `125,000 when i got it...
http://www.pix8.net/pro/pic/2375Jb6j6/346269.jpg
http://www.pix8.net/pro/pic/2375Jb6j6/404427.jpg
not to worried about compression...
http://www.pix8.net/pro/pic/2375Jb6j6/404428.jpg
or cyl walls...
http://www.pix8.net/pro/pic/2375Jb6j6/404426.jpg

and like i said...this guys question has been anwsered. "can i boost a 120,000 mile motor" yes. ;)

jhmcrx 04-01-2005 03:51 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 

Originally Posted by BoosTedZSix
my car had 212k miles on it when i boosted it. ran good at 10 psi.

wow... must have never missed a check up >:D good job.

Turdbo 04-01-2005 06:09 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 
speaking of high miles would it be safe to turbo a d15 with 200k ? im thinking about a ghetto build

SkunT 04-01-2005 07:18 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 

Originally Posted by Turdbo
speaking of high miles would it be safe to turbo a d15 with 200k ? im thinking about a ghetto build


Originally Posted by BoosTedZSix
my car had 212k miles on it when i boosted it. ran good at 10 psi.


sure.

95civic 04-02-2005 02:51 AM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 
Depends on how many hard runs you do, I toasted a motor in 15k but it was beat hard.

nonvtec 04-03-2005 01:56 PM

Re: Life span of my baby?
 
What 93turboB16 said about 4th gear pulls and untuned basemaps was true. Frank, 5 psi ain't ----!! ;) That's why it's holding up fine.


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