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darksol2005 05-29-2005 05:35 PM

lag, then boost drops off= teh suck
 
so i know alot of my problem is that i'm usin way too small of a turbo for my set up, but there's still one thing that i can't figure out. i've got a .42 .48 on my b16 runnin uber w/ 450's, bmc log mani, 2.5 mandrel dp w/ 2.5 all the way back, 2.5 mandrel charge pipe, and turbo xs mbc. the damn thing doens't hit full spool until almost 4500 rpms!!! then almost right after it fully spools, the psi starts to drop as well. i'm workin on that though. is all my lag comin from that mani, or what?

FooK 05-29-2005 05:39 PM

Re: lag, then boost drops off= teh suck
 
boost leaks.

darksol2005 05-29-2005 05:47 PM

Re: lag, then boost drops off= teh suck
 
all couplers were tightened w/ a socket, bov won't leak (hks ssq). i dk where else to look

FooK 05-29-2005 06:33 PM

Re: lag, then boost drops off= teh suck
 

Originally Posted by darksol2005
all couplers were tightened w/ a socket, bov won't leak (hks ssq). i dk where else to look

could be exhaust leaks too.

also loose vacuum hoses. split in a coupler that you're not noticing.

silverac 05-29-2005 08:31 PM

Re: lag, then boost drops off= teh suck
 
I wish I could help but I have the same problem with a similar setup but I have a b18.mines spools at like 3500 and dies at 5500.I thought with the boost controller it would have held boost longer but thats not happening.I dont think its the header,I have the same one,same turbo but running 21/4 exhaust and piping.Ive checked for leaks but I find nothing.I wished I would have kept my t25 setup cause kicked in at 2500 and died at 5500.if u figure it out post what it was so that I could try the same thing

FooK 05-29-2005 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by silverac
I wish I could help but I have the same problem with a similar setup but I have a b18.mines spools at like 3500 and dies at 5500.I thought with the boost controller it would have held boost longer but thats not happening.I dont think its the header,I have the same one,same turbo but running 21/4 exhaust and piping.Ive checked for leaks but I find nothing.I wished I would have kept my t25 setup cause kicked in at 2500 and died at 5500.if u figure it out post what it was so that I could try the same thing

i had a problem similar to that a while back when my wastegate was opening too far. id spool up, hold it for a while, then it'd all blow out and id have to start spoolin up all over again. shimmed the gate a bit and it went away.

darksol2005 05-30-2005 12:04 AM

Re: lag, then boost drops off= teh suck
 
i'm runnin external

D16Y8-Z6 05-30-2005 12:23 AM

Re: lag, then boost drops off= teh suck
 
Did you always have this problem ?
Gasket between mani and turbo ?

Fook is right does sound like a leak.
You using a mbc btw ?

darksol2005 05-30-2005 12:27 AM

Re: lag, then boost drops off= teh suck
 
yeah, it's had this prob since i got it runnin w/ the turbo. yes, i'm usin a turbo xs "high performance" mbc, and yeah i have a gasket between the mani and turbo. i dk why my couplers would be leakin since their less than a month old from stealthmode, so i'm leanin twards exhaust leak. i'm gonna pull the mani off tomorrow and see what's up. anything else i should look for? cause this really sucks. my car's slow as balls

Koby 05-30-2005 03:23 AM

Re: lag, then boost drops off= teh suck
 
1.) Build a proper boost leak tester, pressure test your entire intake.

samson 05-30-2005 07:05 AM

Re: lag, then boost drops off= teh suck
 

Originally Posted by Koby
1.) Build a proper boost leak tester, pressure test your entire intake.


How do you do that? Smell that? WRITE-UP!!! :o :P


JP

BoosTedZSix 05-30-2005 08:33 AM

Re: lag, then boost drops off= teh suck
 
a 42/48 getting full boost at 4500 on a b16 ??? id think theres something up with your charge pipes. i dont see how this has anything to do with your exhaust. just un hook it and run it open down pipe

darksol2005 05-30-2005 10:40 AM

Re: lag, then boost drops off= teh suck
 
it would affect it if there was an exhaust leak before the turbo

D16Y8-Z6 05-30-2005 10:53 AM

Re: lag, then boost drops off= teh suck
 
Take off the mbc and see if the boost is steady.

darksol2005 05-30-2005 11:14 AM

Re: lag, then boost drops off= teh suck
 
it wasn't even before the mbc was on, and took just as long to spool too :-[

BoosTedZSix 05-30-2005 11:25 AM

Re: lag, then boost drops off= teh suck
 

Originally Posted by darksol2005
it would affect it if there was an exhaust leak before the turbo

is there? its not hard to find out ::)

darksol2005 05-30-2005 11:35 AM

Re: lag, then boost drops off= teh suck
 
i'm pullin everything apart today when i get back from fishin to find out what's up. i'll let ya'll know tonight

TurboZCHatch 05-30-2005 11:52 AM

Re: lag, then boost drops off= teh suck
 
Make sure there isnt any hidden holes on your welds.

darksol2005 05-30-2005 07:04 PM

Re: lag, then boost drops off= teh suck
 
alright, i went out and started taking stuff apart. i found a small exhaust leak where the wastegate bolts onto the mani. cleaned it up, and bolted the fucker on as tight as i could, and it's still the same. i'm not using the gasket that came w/ it because everyone says that they just burn off. so i dk what to try next ???

FooK 05-30-2005 07:29 PM

Re: lag, then boost drops off= teh suck
 
what wastegate are you using, sounds like its poop.

darksol2005 05-30-2005 07:36 PM

Re: lag, then boost drops off= teh suck
 
knockoff tial 35mm

Threads 05-30-2005 07:42 PM

Re: lag, then boost drops off= teh suck
 

Originally Posted by darksol2005
knockoff tial 35mm

Yahtzee!

That is most likely your problem. I have the same problem as you except mine is an internal wastegate.

FooK 05-30-2005 08:50 PM

Re: lag, then boost drops off= teh suck
 

Originally Posted by darksol2005
knockoff tial 35mm

pull it apart, chances are the set screws inside have all backed out and everything is just flopping around in there

Koby 05-31-2005 12:00 AM

Re: lag, then boost drops off= teh suck
 

Originally Posted by samson

Originally Posted by Koby
1.) Build a proper boost leak tester, pressure test your entire intake.


How do you do that? Smell that? WRITE-UP!!! :o :P


JP

Already been done, long long ago:


http://www.vfaq.com/mods/ICtester.html

samson 05-31-2005 05:53 AM

Re: lag, then boost drops off= teh suck
 

Originally Posted by Koby

Originally Posted by samson

Originally Posted by Koby
1.) Build a proper boost leak tester, pressure test your entire intake.


How do you do that? Smell that? WRITE-UP!!! :o :P


JP

Already been done, long long ago:


http://www.vfaq.com/mods/ICtester.html


I haven't been here that long and still a n00b. So, thank you kind sir. ;) ;D


JP


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