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tkelly278 04-12-2009 01:35 AM

Junkyard intercooler pipes
 
Only like, 40 more posts more and I'll be able to get the porno forum. God damn!

Here are some junkyard IC pipes that worked for me, and some that did not.

The good:
Duh, use some from cars that came turbo'd/intercooled to begin with. Never failed me up to 25psi and beyond. Here is an example from a turbo volvo
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...g?t=1239516075

aluminum pipe and million ply silicone flex tubing. Sweet secks.

Also good, this ---- off of Ford's, some of it is even 3"
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...g?t=1239516138
This is off a probe, I think.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...g?t=1239516139
This is off a truck. Bronco's and F150's have bigger pipes, Rangers and whatever that is have smaller ones. All of this type of multi-layer rubber and cord tube I've tested up to 25psi too and it's held.

One lame part, the spring and staple in those, just cut the hose off at the staple so you don't get leaks and rip the spring inside it of it out.

The bad:
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...g?t=1239516391
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...g?t=1239516392

That molded rubber bullshit will split on you. It's thick, but it is gayer than that uncle that touched you in the church bathroom. My friend is running it in his with no problems @ 15psi, but it's just waiting for the right time to split and leave him fucked on the side of the road. When you can find hard pipes, silicone, and the Ford stuff, why would you bother?

Not tested:

I'm seeing more and more plastic stuff in the 'yards.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...g?t=1239516527
what the ---- is that? I wouldn't put it before the IC, and with all the other stuff out there, I wouldn't ---- with it at all.

You can also chop up exhaust pipes, but it's hard to find it in the right size normally. Walked out of the junkyard with this
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...g?t=1239516757
for $10. I did it, you can too.

Also, give your hard pipes a lip to hold on to. Even though these things might balloon up, they'll hang on with a lip on the hard pipe.

amg 04-12-2009 03:11 AM

not bad for ten bucks

patfraser3 04-12-2009 12:44 PM

Really good for 10$ im about to go look for this kind of stuff monday at a couple of yards hope to find a pipe with the blowoff flange and blowoff with it :P

rebel831 04-12-2009 03:22 PM

ima go this monday to snag me 10 bucks worth of intercooler piping

Sinner 04-13-2009 12:35 PM

my first & second charge pipes came from junkyard turbo pipes. I only pulled pipes off turbo cars which had pretty small ID.

rebel831 04-13-2009 12:46 PM

man, california junkyards have plenty of euro, jap, an american turbo cars. a lot of peeps here are to dumb to know that a nissan 300zx turbo has a lot of usefull turbo piping

zero937 04-14-2009 12:14 AM

i would go with some better parts for intercooler parts

tkelly278 04-14-2009 11:20 PM


Originally Posted by zero937 (Post 1264878)
i would go with some better parts for intercooler parts

Haha, on my free car with it's $15 turbo, and $5 intercooler? Money doesn't grow on trees, and I need to buy beer.

It doesn't seem like many people here are making a ton of boost anyway, stock boost for most of the cars those came off of is 10-13psi and they run that way for hundreds of thousands of miles until the engines die and the IC pipes live on. I've been running them on my own cars at 15-18psi for the last 4 years with no problems and I've seen as high as 25psi. The only one that ever broke were the molded ones.

I forgot to mention about flow and size, don't ------- worry about it. Stock DSM pipes are just barely over 2" ID and people have made more than 300awhp with the stock IC. I imagine you could make more with 2" pipes if you had a better IC. 2.5" IC piping can handle 700hp and beyond with a decent IC.

If it ever stops ------- raining I'll plumb up my IC and take pics of my car. Maybe I'll get a pic of a pegged boost gauge with my boost leak tester ;D

geofarace 04-14-2009 11:22 PM

Yea those west coast guys seem to have all the deals in the yards??

lunch_box 04-15-2009 02:01 PM

looks good
if only there was a junk yard around me that
bought turbo cars lol

tkelly278 04-25-2009 12:16 PM

The majority of the IC piping on my talon is exhaust piping, or from a non-turbo car, so you don't really need turbo cars at your junkyard to get it done.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...7/S6300077.jpg

The elbow to the throttle body is the same 90 pictured from the probe. It's about 3" and fits the 60mm throttle body perfectly. The aluminum cone with the BOV is from a bimmer, kind of rare, shitty bov, and something I'll be replacing if I ever get a job. The rest of the cold end IC piping is 2.5" pipe from autozone and the inlet tubes from the bronco that I've been cutting and reusing for the last 5 years.

The elbow after the turbo outlet is part of the rubber IC piping and the bov elbow from a 2g DSM. The orange 2" to 2.5" coupler is from a power-stroke and again our friend the parts store 2.5" exhaust pipes. At the end of that is a rubber 90 to point it to the 90 off the intercooler inlet, I forget where that came from.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3.../Photo0480.jpg

On the inlet/outlet you can see the same inlet pipes from the bronco. They make a really tight 90 and go from the 2 5/8" of the IC to 2.5" of the piping, and work better than anything you could buy at a store. This is something I'd like to fix too by welding on aluminum elbows.

It's important to not have rubber couplers resting on metal, especially sheet metal with a bur on the edge. They will rub through.

You can see the stock SMIC in place. I like to keep all the stock intake system in place until the very end just in case I don't have a piece I need, or something happens where I need to drive the car.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...7/DSCN0692.jpg

That's more or less the same piping in my van. Only had that to 18psi for a year or so. Coming off the turbo is a coupler to an exhaust reducer to the ribbed silicone, and that comes up to the radiator pipe, then to BOV pipe, and the rest is mild steel, or the bronco stuff.

Turbo10 04-30-2009 12:10 AM

I picked up some for a buddy the other day. That ---- is cheap, I got 10 different pieces of aluminum pipe, some 2" some 2 1/2" all for $18

RyAn007 04-30-2009 12:11 PM

Yes, dsm's have made over 300awhp with a stock intercooler, btu what you forget to take in to the equation is heat soak, and intoercooler piping ruptures and pop offs. Sure, that stock piping seems to hold good boost, but you always run the risk of it popping off, and thats nothing to play with. It also cracks and leaks when you leave abouthte 15 psi range. Heat soak is also another huge problem with these small intercoolers and cheap ones, because they will not be able to maintain their cooling capabilities for a while. So if you are at the track you can expect a good amount of cool down time between runs or loss of horsepower and even possibly engine problems. The only way to defend against this is to install a good water/alcohol injection setup, but wehn it all boils down to price it would be best to go with cheap piping and intercooler. Over all it is a cost effective way, but the flow loss of the whole set up is not really worth the 50$ price tag when if you knwo where to go you can get good parts, being aluminum piping couplers and a decent front mount for near 100$. If I were you I would shop around little bit, but I commend you on your creativity and it was smart to use oem piping from turbo cars for your turbo car, and if you are planning on low boost setups this is a decent way to go on a budget.

slow-ef9 04-30-2009 12:29 PM

i'm going to the junkman today. good looking out

RyAn007 05-02-2009 01:47 PM

Tkelly, is that an evo intercooler you are using that is flipped over? Alsowhat kind of turbo are you going to run and what are you using for tuning if anything? more info on the build would be great, i actually happen to be a dsm enthusiast haha.

tkelly278 05-05-2009 03:17 PM

Yeah, that's the ebay evo upgrade IC flipped around. I got a good deal on it a long time ago before I knew anything about IC's : /

Running a big 16g, and DSMap for tuning. I need more fuel before I can turn up the boost.

Speaking of DSMap, you should switch over to speed density.
http://www.ds-map.net/
You'll loose your fear of cheap couplers. Tear one? Blow it off, no problem, drive it home and change it to have a better hold, or something stronger.

You are spot on with the heat soak. Also right about the pipes maybe eventually blowing (hard pipes will for sure not), but they are a step up from PVC, cost much less, and come in a lot of easy shapes.

RyAn007 05-05-2009 03:20 PM

Yea, the only way I would be against running those pipes is for high boost, but personally I only use the aluminum or steel welded to gether with a few couplers on it for movement, DSMap is a great way, I also was running speed density on an ostrich, best setup IMO for the price, but before I picked up an AEM EMS I traded the car for a built mustang that will become a turbo project in the near future.

tkelly278 05-05-2009 03:23 PM

Ohh, cool! I want a turbo 5.0 (or mod motor) in a big way.

RyAn007 05-05-2009 03:26 PM

Haha, right now with it built its a monster, I cant imagine what twin hx40's will do, but I guess I am going to find out, and I went with the carbed motor because motors with a load of computers are just a handful to deal with. And the way the whole setup looks/sounds with a blow through carb is absolutely amazing, and the howl of the holset with be crazy.


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