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fatman489 10-01-2008 06:25 AM

I Have Searched But Found NOTHING Conclusive Please Help-TD04HL
 
I got this turbo free from a friend FRESH off a JDM 4g63 Swap still On the pallet. and I cant find ANY good information on it... I know its a DSM turbo Because it has a DSM adaptor plate bolted to it. and has a DSM 02 housing flange, I have taken some pictures, The turbo says TD04HL and 49189-02500 there is a S right above the first 9. Tell me what you guys think/Know. Sorry my pictures arnt the greatest my camera is kinda crappy lol.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h2...Picture008.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h2...cture007-2.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h2...cture006-3.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h2...cture005-3.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h2...Picture011.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h2...Picture012.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h2...Picture013.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h2...Picture014.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h2...Picture015.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h2...Picture016.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h2...Picture017.jpg

MAJORAHOLE 10-01-2008 11:15 AM

Re: I Have Searched But Found NOTHING Conclusive Please Help-TD04HL
 
does that have an adaptor on it?

the 13th round 10-01-2008 11:32 AM

Re: I Have Searched But Found NOTHING Conclusive Please Help-TD04HL
 
http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=197890

http://fc3spro.com/TECH/TURBO/tmodels.html


some specs. what do you want to know?

its too small to be fun on anything.

Hitchhikkr 10-01-2008 12:18 PM

Re: I Have Searched But Found NOTHING Conclusive Please Help-TD04HL
 
Its not a stock dsm turbo.

Its that damn 12a/13g bastard turbo they put on the mitsu compact suv thing.

But yes, it really is too small to be fun or exciting. A step up from the T25 for sure, but not a big step.

the 13th round 10-01-2008 02:04 PM

Re: I Have Searched But Found NOTHING Conclusive Please Help-TD04HL
 
thanks for the correction.

fatman489 10-01-2008 03:42 PM

Re: I Have Searched But Found NOTHING Conclusive Please Help-TD04HL
 
Thanks for the replys guys, And since it was free its still going to go on my d16z6, Its better than no boost at all lol.

MAJORAHOLE 10-01-2008 04:04 PM

Re: I Have Searched But Found NOTHING Conclusive Please Help-TD04HL
 
ya, i loved my t25 as a first turbo. it was fun for me, having never had a turbo civic, or knowing anyone with a non/stock turbo car

fatman489 10-01-2008 04:53 PM

Re: I Have Searched But Found NOTHING Conclusive Please Help-TD04HL
 
Well my civic was previously Turbo'd from a greddy kit but I still think its going to be fun as soon as I get the last few peices I need for my kit and weld up the Elbows on the DSM side mount I have its going on

Smith-02 10-01-2008 04:56 PM

Re: I Have Searched But Found NOTHING Conclusive Please Help-TD04HL
 
same wheels and housings, but different application than a 2.5 legacy gt, 2.5 forester xt, etc etc

maybe 250hp on a honda if youre lucky theyre just too efficient of an engine

crx2211 10-01-2008 10:41 PM

Re: I Have Searched But Found NOTHING Conclusive Please Help-TD04HL
 

Originally Posted by Hitchhikkr
Its not a stock dsm turbo.

Its that damn 12a/13g bastard turbo they put on the mitsu compact suv thing.

But yes, it really is too small to be fun or exciting. A step up from the T25 for sure, but not a big step.

ORLY? That a 13g off a 1G (90-94) DSM with an automatic transmission. They get 390cc injectors too. He's got an adapter plate on it. Way to ------ accurate information there numbnuts.

crx2211 10-01-2008 10:47 PM

Re: I Have Searched But Found NOTHING Conclusive Please Help-TD04HL
 
Also, I think the factory refers to them as 13b's, even though they have the dual finned G-series compressor wheel, so maybe if you search 13b turbo you'll find something. More than likely just a lot of RX-7 stuff though.

Hitchhikkr 10-01-2008 11:03 PM

Re: I Have Searched But Found NOTHING Conclusive Please Help-TD04HL
 

Originally Posted by crx2211
ORLY? That a 13g off a 1G (90-94) DSM with an automatic transmission. They get 390cc injectors too. He's got an adapter plate on it. Way to ------ accurate information there numbnuts.

No actually you are wrong. I was correct. This is a 1g automatic turbo. Clearly not the same one as he posted in the original post.
http://hondaswap.com/gallery/data/500/car-lores-30.JPG

This is the bastard turbo that has no name. I know this because my brother has one at the shop and the mistu turbo list my dad has on his computer, which was sent to him BY MITSUBISHI via email.

https://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h...Picture011.jpg


See the difference?

I was gonna say something mean, but I will refrain. The information is correct. That is all.

fatman489 10-02-2008 01:01 AM

Re: I Have Searched But Found NOTHING Conclusive Please Help-TD04HL
 
But thanks guysAll i know is it fits my DSM adaptor plate has the DSM o2 housing and Is prettyu damn small lol, Got it free has NO shaft play, So i was just looking for some specs on it since i cant find any tdo4hl info besides the Volvo one and id imagine that one is different.

crx2211 10-02-2008 03:50 AM

Re: I Have Searched But Found NOTHING Conclusive Please Help-TD04HL
 
Hitchhiker wtfbbq?! The one on the bottom is a TD04HL-13G-5 right? The bottom picture is a 13g off a 1G auto correct? That's the same one the OP has am I right? The one with simply TD04 stamped on the compressor housing is the bastard turbo yeah? In your original post you said the bottom one was the bastard turbo. Am I wrong? It happens on occasion ( ::)) but I if the one with just TD04 stamped is the bastard turbo then that's the one you were claiming was Mitsu. Or was it the other way around? All I know is that IMO the turbo that is a TD04HL is the OEM 1G auto turbocharger. So you still could be wrong my friend, but there is the rare possibility that I am wrong. Ah ---- it all.

Hitchhikkr 10-02-2008 10:13 AM

Re: I Have Searched But Found NOTHING Conclusive Please Help-TD04HL
 
Mitsu goes by part #'s. And honestly im not sure what the call the tdo4l non-subaru bastard turbo in DSM land, and I dont really care. I do know that the last 3 4g63 motor/trans that my brother has had at the shop, had this turbo attached to them.

They are different compressors. The comp housing and comp wheel have physical size differences which the pics dont really show. The exducer diameters of the comp wheel are also different.

Regardless, Id rather not turn this into an arguement, but I just wanted clarity in this matter, because these turbos do exist, and there is far too much mis-information on the interweb anyway.


ok


To the OP: this turbo will be fine to use in sub-200hp applications, but at levels above that, its life will be significantly shortened.

fatman489 10-02-2008 04:39 PM

Re: I Have Searched But Found NOTHING Conclusive Please Help-TD04HL
 

Well Im really only looking to run around *psi out of it to a stock D16z6 So im guessing around 160-170whp so I think it should be fine for awhile Dont you? I mean I knew this turbo was going to be a little iffy on the top end but It was free so i mean hard not to use it since its in such good shape, and im really just looking for more umph out of my z6 till i can get my spare motor built and in:D but thank you for all the information,I cant wait to see what this lil thing spools like it should be fun on the bottem end lol.

xternal 10-03-2008 06:15 PM

Re: I Have Searched But Found NOTHING Conclusive Please Help-TD04HL
 

Originally Posted by the 13th round
http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=197890

http://fc3spro.com/TECH/TURBO/tmodels.html


some specs. what do you want to know?

its too small to be fun on anything.

Enough said , its too small for anything. You only want 160whp..from a turbo honda. DIAF

fatman489 10-05-2008 06:12 PM

Re: I Have Searched But Found NOTHING Conclusive Please Help-TD04HL
 

Originally Posted by xternal
Enough said , its too small for anything. You only want 160whp..from a turbo honda. DIAF

Yes I only want 160whp from a stock Z6 I am in the process of getting a A6 block with a spare Z6 head built to withstand more boost from either a GT28 or a GT30 I havent decided which one yet. But for now I just need something more fun to drive than a stock Z6 swap.


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