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RNPoo7 06-10-2005 11:56 PM

I Give up! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I have tired the impossible to solve this problem.

My bolts holdling the manifold and the turbo together keep on coming out. I have tried everything.

Lock-tight, locking washers, million set of bolts, and still, they come loose.

It's precision SC-61 on a old school lovefab shorty manifold. Yes I realize that the turbo is heavy as balls, but any solutions out there for me??

I really don't want to spot weld the turbo and the manifold :'(

TIA

Ravage70 06-11-2005 12:55 AM

Re: I Give up! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
 
spot weld the bolts ^-^

MikeJ-2009 06-11-2005 02:02 AM

Re: I Give up! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Are you using Grade 8 hardware? Make sure everything is super ------ tight and I can't see why it would keep coming off, unless your engine is shaking the ---- out of everything?

RNPoo7 06-11-2005 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravage70
spot weld the bolts ^-^

But then I can't ever take out the bolts since I won't be able to put a wrench around the bolts, right?

RNPoo7 06-11-2005 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealthmode
Are you using Grade 8 hardware? Make sure everything is super ------ tight and I can't see why it would keep coming off, unless your engine is shaking the ---- out of everything?

I do have a mount that's broken, I suppose that causes a lot of vibrations? I am going to fix that very soon.

SpankedYA! 06-11-2005 03:36 PM

Re: I Give up! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Turbo car with broken mounts=problems.

88dx 06-11-2005 03:42 PM

Re: I Give up! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Originally Posted by CSaddict
Turbo car with broken mounts=problems.

Any car with broken mounts=problems fix that ----. Are you using a nut and a bolt? or is the manifold threaded?

RNPoo7 06-11-2005 04:07 PM

Re: I Give up! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
 
At first I started out with studs, but that didn't work out so switched over to bolts.

Yah the manifold is threaded and the turbo isn't it.

I was using 2 nuts on 2 of the bolts becuase the 2 in teh back end up hitting the runner or hidden by the runner and therefore you can't use nuts on the rear ones. Nevertheless, it still didn't work out for me.

FooK 06-11-2005 04:10 PM

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id say the mount is causing you some issues. fix it.

Speedracer32 06-11-2005 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RNPoo7
At first I started out with studs, but that didn't work out so switched over to bolts.

Yah the manifold is threaded and the turbo isn't it.

I was using 2 nuts on 2 of the bolts becuase the 2 in teh back end up hitting the runner or hidden by the runner and therefore you can't use nuts on the rear ones. Nevertheless, it still didn't work out for me.

this confused me ???..So how many bolts matched with nuts do you have in the manifold.
From what I'm understanding, your saying you only have have (2) bolts with matching nuts on the front
and nothing on the back ones?

RNPoo7 06-11-2005 06:04 PM

Re: I Give up! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
 
alright I will do my best to explain it this time.

First, regarding the mount, my motor doesnt really vibrate much at all, that's why it never occured to me. But I remembered this last night and said what a hell, that's probably my problem. So i'm fixing that this week for sure.

As far as the botls and nuts, here it is

When I first boosted, I used 4 studs, all the same. However, If you look at this picture of my manifold, you can't put nuts on the back studs. So right now 2 can have nuts and 2 can't have nuts.

The front side. I use the inner holes, not the outer holes.
http://www.lovefabinc.com//images/pr...orty%20002.jpg

Here's the back side:
Notice how you are looking at the outer holes. The inner holes which are the rear, you can't put a nut to the bolt or stud. The runner covers up the hole from up top.

Also, when I say i went through many sets, everytime i change them and try something new, I use 4 of the same bolt or studs. I don't mix and match. I hope that made sense
http://www.lovefabinc.com//images/pr...orty%20005.jpg

Speedracer32 06-11-2005 06:39 PM

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how about you buy some thread studs and weld them to the manifold
Ima have to draw a picture cause I cant explain it ;D

Speedracer32 06-11-2005 07:32 PM

Re: I Give up! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
 
got carried away with the drawing

samson 06-11-2005 07:45 PM

Re: I Give up! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Wow. That's a cool pic. I wish I could do that. :-\ Post that avatar of yours. I have yet to see that one up. I saw the others, but not that one.


JP

Speedracer32 06-11-2005 08:04 PM

Re: I Give up! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
 
::OFFTOPIC: ( not intent to thread jack)
The avatar is just a pic of my turbo for my next project. I just finished piecing the kit together earlier today.
On my new website im gonna have a section for animated gif and avatars that people can download

::back ONTOPIC:: ;D

RNPoo7 06-11-2005 09:52 PM

Re: I Give up! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
 
wow, that's an awesome drawing Speedracer32.
I could do that as you suggested, but then again; I can only do that to the front two studs/bolts. The problem becomes in teh back ones, which go out first.

Oh well, I just spot welded it in a few spots to where I'll be able to clean it extermely well next time i take it off. I put some locking washers, red locktight as usual. I'll see how it holds up this time.

Thanks for the help fellas.

Speedracer32 06-11-2005 09:58 PM

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thanx man
Good luck this round
let us know how it turns out ;)

B16CRXT 06-11-2005 09:58 PM

Re: I Give up! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
 
That mount you broke is juat a torque mount. I doubt thast causing your problems, but since you do have the replacement already, FIX IT!

RNPoo7 06-12-2005 02:35 AM

Re: I Give up! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Originally Posted by B16CRXT
That mount you broke is juat a torque mount. I doubt thast causing your problems, but since you do have the replacement already, FIX IT!

I didn't break it. I bought the car like that.

Bone1 06-12-2005 03:53 PM

Re: I Give up! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
 
how about safety wiring the nuts so they don't back off????????

doubt anyone here besides knows how to do it though :(

Minor Threat 06-12-2005 11:47 PM

Re: I Give up! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I was gonna suggest that, drill a hole through the nut+stud or bolt or whatever when it' torqued down, then run a piece of wire that is fairly snug through the hole. Unless whatever force is causing your turbo to become loose in the first place is strong enough to break the wire, it won't move.

samson 06-13-2005 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Salad Days
I was gonna suggest that, drill a hole through the nut+stud or bolt or whatever when it' torqued down, then run a piece of wire that is fairly snug through the hole. Unless whatever force is causing your turbo to become loose in the first place is strong enough to break the wire, it won't move.


Yea. Good idea. Like a carter pin or something. You still have to be worried about the seal and you don't have an exhaust leak though through the whole process.



JP

BoosTedZSix 06-14-2005 12:02 AM

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isnt it a cotter pin?


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