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soon2boost 09-20-2004 11:15 PM

homemade boost controler? how to?
 
ive heard of these homemade boost controllers how do you make them???

con 09-20-2004 11:46 PM

Re:homemade boost controler? how to?
 
poke holes in your wastegate signal line ;)

Ckjeepin 09-21-2004 01:06 AM

Re:homemade boost controler? how to?
 
cut your wastegate line in half buy a T fitting. Connect the hose back together.. Then run some more hose off the end of the T fitting to a adjustable valve... Then you open the valve for more boost or close the valve for less boost...
Easy cheesy lemon squezy

projekteg 09-21-2004 08:03 AM

Re:homemade boost controler? how to?
 
http://www.geocities.com/chmwatson/FAQs/mbc.html

Ckjeepin 09-21-2004 09:46 AM

Re:homemade boost controler? how to?
 
That one is too in depth....

Just cut the hose in half, buy a plastic T fitting.. Then run some more hose to a adjustable valve... Done.

projekteg 09-21-2004 09:49 AM

Re:homemade boost controler? how to?
 

Originally Posted by Ckjeepin
cut your wastegate line in half buy a T fitting. Connect the hose back together.. Then run some more hose off the end of the T fitting to a adjustable valve... Then you open the valve for more boost or close the valve for less boost...
Easy cheesy lemon squezy

ummmmmmmmm, actually, that wouldn't do anything ::) there would have to be some type of valve inside the 't' to restrict the air flow going to the wg. by doind like you said, it will flow straight through the 't' like you had done nothing at all.

Ckjeepin 09-21-2004 10:23 AM

Re:homemade boost controler? how to?
 
An adjustable valve..
You get them from home depot... They go full open or full close or anywhere in between.. By barely opening it you get a small raise in boost.. Fully closed is stock boost..
The more you open it the more boost you get...
So don't ::) me... Im not dumb

Ckjeepin 09-21-2004 10:25 AM

Re:homemade boost controler? how to?
 

Originally Posted by projekteg

Originally Posted by Ckjeepin
cut your wastegate line in half buy a T fitting. Connect the hose back together.. Then run some more hose off the end of the T fitting to a adjustable valve... Then you open the valve for more boost or close the valve for less boost...
Easy cheesy lemon squezy

ummmmmmmmm, actually, that wouldn't do anything ::) there would have to be some type of valve inside the 't' to restrict the air flow going to the wg. by doind like you said, it will flow straight through the 't' like you had done nothing at all.


SkunT 09-21-2004 10:25 AM

Re:homemade boost controler? how to?
 
take a picture of yours kevin, and show them how you have yours set-up. isnt this how you have yours?

projekteg 09-21-2004 10:57 AM

Re:homemade boost controler? how to?
 

Originally Posted by Ckjeepin
An adjustable valve..
You get them from home depot... They go full open or full close or anywhere in between.. By barely opening it you get a small raise in boost.. Fully closed is stock boost..
The more you open it the more boost you get...
So don't ::) me... Im not dumb

the way you described it WILL DO NOTHING AT ALL!!!!! you really don't have to explain to me how a boost controller works, i promise. putting a t between a vacuum/boost source and your wg, and then running an adjustable valve off the t will do nothing b/c the valve won't be going to the wg the way you describe it. in all actuality. you don't need a t, you put the adjustable valve (boost controller) in line where you said to put a t. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Ckjeepin 09-21-2004 11:15 AM

Re:homemade boost controler? how to?
 
that would work too...
ALthough i know for a face the way i said it will work..
You think the air wont make a rigt turn? Air will find the fastest way out. And if that valve is closer than the wastegate it will leak air...
This is the setup i have run on my srt4 and not only did it work, But the turbo spooled up noticably faster too..

projekteg 09-21-2004 11:21 AM

Re:homemade boost controler? how to?
 
that's the most unreliable thing i've ever heard, you may as well just poke holes in your wg line, that would be even easier and would be just as safe/reliable as whay you say :P

surfer 09-21-2004 11:26 AM

Re:homemade boost controler? how to?
 

Originally Posted by projekteg

Originally Posted by Ckjeepin
An adjustable valve..
You get them from home depot... They go full open or full close or anywhere in between.. By barely opening it you get a small raise in boost.. Fully closed is stock boost..
The more you open it the more boost you get...
So don't ::) me... Im not dumb

the way you described it WILL DO NOTHING AT ALL!!!!! you really don't have to explain to me how a boost controller works, i promise. putting a t between a vacuum/boost source and your wg, and then running an adjustable valve off the t will do nothing b/c the valve won't be going to the wg the way you describe it. in all actuality. you don't need a t, you put the adjustable valve (boost controller) in line where you said to put a t. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

neither of this ---- works

if you put an adjustable valve inline you restrict the folw in both directions so when you lift off the throttle and then floor it again your wg will be open and you will boost slow as ----.

if you want to use the T piece then you should cut the pipe from the snail to the wg, and then insert the T and put the pipe to the wg adjacent to the pressure line from the turbo and then put the valve on the unused part of the fitting

projekteg 09-21-2004 11:31 AM

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refer to the first link i posted for a home made boost controller..... the end!

willahlborn 09-21-2004 12:23 PM

Re:homemade boost controler? how to?
 
Actually this would work. It is equivalent to "poking holes in the hose feeding the wastegate". It just allows you to adjust the size of the hole via an adjustable valve.

projekteg 09-21-2004 12:56 PM

Re:homemade boost controler? how to?
 

Originally Posted by Will
Actually this would work. It is equivalent to "poking holes in the hose feeding the wastegate". It just allows you to adjust the size of the hole via an adjustable valve.

now that he explained it a little better, i know that it will work, but it's unreliable and then what, you have a vacuum leak also. just go out and spend 10 bucks for the parts to make a ball spring wg if anything.

Ckjeepin 09-21-2004 02:08 PM

Re:homemade boost controler? how to?
 

Originally Posted by Will
Actually this would work. It is equivalent to "poking holes in the hose feeding the wastegate". It just allows you to adjust the size of the hole via an adjustable valve.

Werd
And how is this unreliable? I dont see how so?

projekteg 09-21-2004 02:13 PM

Re:homemade boost controler? how to?
 

Originally Posted by Ckjeepin

Originally Posted by Will
Actually this would work. It is equivalent to "poking holes in the hose feeding the wastegate". It just allows you to adjust the size of the hole via an adjustable valve.

Werd
And how is this unreliable? I dont see how so?

if this was a safe, reliable way to raise boost, don't you think everyone would do it? everyone knows that poking holes in your wg signal line will raise boost (which is essentially the same thing that you bring to the table), yet do you see anyone doing it? not really ;)

Ckjeepin 09-21-2004 03:10 PM

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except i provide a adjustable way of doing it and also a reversble way.. I dont have to cause permanent damage tow astegate hoses...
My way is the way all the DSM / srt4 guys do it..

SpankedYA! 09-21-2004 03:50 PM

Re:homemade boost controler? how to?
 
You wont have a vaccum leak because the input boost source is from the compressor and not from the manifold. The Bleed type valve does work, thats what Vortec uses on the mustang kits. Since the waste gate boost source is self contained and isolated it will not cause a vaccum leak. It will just bleed off a certain cfm from the waste gate acuator so it will take 10psi to open a 7 psi gate. I use a ball and spring type like in the link. The bleed type tends to spike less from what I used. I had one but it didn't have a big enough bleed hole to relieve boost through so it only upped my boost 2 psi, insted of the 4 I needed it to.

Ckjeepin 09-21-2004 05:00 PM

Re:homemade boost controler? how to?
 

Originally Posted by CSaddict
You wont have a vaccum leak because the input boost source is from the compressor and not from the manifold. The Bleed type valve does work, thats what Vortec uses on the mustang kits. Since the waste gate boost source is self contained and isolated it will not cause a vaccum leak. It will just bleed off a certain cfm from the waste gate acuator so it will take 10psi to open a 7 psi gate. I use a ball and spring type like in the link. The bleed type tends to spike less from what I used. I had one but it didn't have a big enough bleed hole to relieve boost through so it only upped my boost 2 psi, insted of the 4 I needed it to.

THANK YOU!!
Im sorry projeckteg.. I dont want any beef with you.. I apologise for being so cocky.. I just was getting frustrated that i couldnt explain my idea.

projekteg 09-22-2004 06:45 AM

Re:homemade boost controler? how to?
 

Originally Posted by CSaddict
You wont have a vaccum leak because the input boost source is from the compressor and not from the manifold.

most people get their boost source from the wg b/c it spools the turbo up faster and you don't get the pressure drop you do from putting it straight to the compressor.



Originally Posted by Ckjeepin
Im sorry projeckteg.. I dont want any beef with you.. I apologise for being so cocky.. I just was getting frustrated that i couldnt explain my idea.

it's all good, there's no beef, everyone is entitled to do things their own way. i'm not some nazi mod that gets mad is someone disagrees. i didn't understand what you were saying at first, but then i realized what you were talking about. it works, i just personally don't agree with doing it that way, that's all.


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