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tman6919 01-06-2006 08:04 AM

hard steel brake line as feed line
 
just curious if anyone has used a hard steel brake line for a feed line, what tools do i need and is it safer than rubber trying to make my budget kit even cheaper

drunkinmaster1 01-06-2006 08:11 AM

Re: hard steel brake line as feed line
 
are you referring to the steel tubing brake lines.

Cray91 01-06-2006 08:12 AM

Re: hard steel brake line as feed line
 
It has been done. The kit I first bought had a solid line on it. I didn't use it.

Just not worth the time to bend it and everything, especially when there are cheap lines out there Stealthmode is $75 shipped right now, that ain't bad.

Cray91 01-06-2006 08:13 AM

Re: hard steel brake line as feed line
 

Originally Posted by drunkinmaster1
are you referring to the steel tubing brake lines.

I assume he is. If he was talking about the flex lines that are stainless, they would only be like 18in at most. That would take like 3 of em to make a line.

hotrex 01-06-2006 08:15 AM

Re: hard steel brake line as feed line
 
if you have a tubing bender it can be done in 15 minutes.

----, id do it if i was a made jdm ball3r

drunkinmaster1 01-06-2006 08:20 AM

Re: hard steel brake line as feed line
 
im shure it could be done, and it whouldnt take that much effort. but what about the engine rocking back and forth, dont you think that it whould fatigue the rigid tubing after awhile.

Jays91DXhatch 01-06-2006 08:37 AM

Re: hard steel brake line as feed line
 
I did it on my first setup 5 years ago because there were no cheap braided lines back then.

I bought the lines in specific lengths with 1/4NPT fitting already on..they were available in many lengths from the local auto parts store.

A Cheap $10 if that tubing bender and couple brass fittings and you're good to go.

The engine rocks back and forth..but the line goes from the engine to the turbo which is attached to the engine so the line would move with the engine.

drunkinmaster1 01-06-2006 08:43 AM

Re: hard steel brake line as feed line
 
im getting ideas. i already have a rigid pipe bender. whats the cost differance between the 2 lines braided steel vs rigid system

jdm monkey 01-06-2006 11:44 AM

Re: hard steel brake line as feed line
 

Originally Posted by drunkinmaster1
im shure it could be done, and it whouldnt take that much effort. but what about the engine rocking back and forth, dont you think that it whould fatigue the rigid tubing after awhile.

picture your set up... the engine rocking back and forth won't affect it. They are in the same boat! :y

Slo_crx1 01-06-2006 02:24 PM

Re: hard steel brake line as feed line
 
I use hard brake line on mine and it works great. I actually bent everything by hand just cause i'm good like that...no tool required, i've had alot of practice. Only thing i did was once it reached the turbo i flared the end of the line and used a 3" piece of rubber fuel injector hose...rated at 60 psi cause i did have the first peice of crap rubber line blow a hole, but it was pretty thin stuff. Better safe than sorry. No problems since then, and i have it routed with the coolant lines for the turbo for madd JdM NeeTnEss yoooo! :1

shadetree 01-06-2006 02:54 PM

Re: hard steel brake line as feed line
 
Considering pretty much every stock turbo car uses hard lines, there should be no problem. Actually less chance of a problem, since it wont flop around, and maybe rub on the manifold and melt, or get caught on a belt or something.

Won't have the bling-blang braided stainless good looks, though.

Jays91DXhatch 01-06-2006 05:50 PM

Re: hard steel brake line as feed line
 
The lines aren't what really cost the money, it's the fittings that go on the Stainless line..they cost quite a bit. You can get a kit for like $75 I think or spend like $10-$20 on hard lines.

Slo_crx1 01-06-2006 07:04 PM

Re: hard steel brake line as feed line
 
Stainless as in the real deal stuff is expensive. Aeroquip is good stuff, but you shouldn't need it for an everyday setup. I used to spend about 12 bux a foot for -12 braided from them rated at 1200psi. And that's not including the fittings either.

Donald125 01-06-2006 07:21 PM

Re: hard steel brake line as feed line
 
as long as the the line is not touching anything it will be fine.

tman6919 01-07-2006 08:52 AM

Re: hard steel brake line as feed line
 
ok be warned im bout to get noobish up in here, what fittings do i need to tap the block and how the hell do you "flare" the brake line i went to nappa and the ends on the line arent flared and the fat chick that worked there didnt know shittttt

drunkinmaster1 01-07-2006 10:03 AM

Re: hard steel brake line as feed line
 
theres a brake line tool that flares the ends out.

BLACKSI 01-07-2006 11:52 AM

Re: hard steel brake line as feed line
 
alot of the early hmt kits had hard line when bent up nicly (we never did) it has a nice almost oem look to it

Beau

drunkinmaster1 01-07-2006 11:57 AM

Re: hard steel brake line as feed line
 

Originally Posted by BLACKSI
alot of the early hmt kits had hard line when bent up nicly (we never did) it has a nice almost oem look to it

Beau

do you happen to have any pics or links to treads to see some examples.

mycrx 01-07-2006 11:59 AM

Re: hard steel brake line as feed line
 
u want cheap, i went to a place that deals in semi truck air hoses and llines, 17 bucks for braided line like 36 inches long, it included the -an fittings on it as well. so all i needed was a fitting for the back of my block and one for the turbo :) like 25 dollars later u have urself a oil line, no different then any other ones.

Cray91 01-07-2006 12:40 PM

Re: hard steel brake line as feed line
 

Originally Posted by Jays91DXhatch
The lines aren't what really cost the money, it's the fittings that go on the Stainless line..they cost quite a bit. You can get a kit for like $75 I think or spend like $10-$20 on hard lines.

That is really a good comparison.

$75 said and done.

or:
$10-20 on lines and
time to bend
fittings for block
return line
return fittings for turbo
fitting for pan

It really isn't worth it IMO, especially if you have to ask this many questions on how to make it work.

jinxy 01-07-2006 01:05 PM

Re: hard steel brake line as feed line
 
whats wrong with people making there own oil lines ::)

bending hardline isint ---- if he gets a bender it will take him just about as long to use it as installing a stainless kit. its not rocket science. The kids probebly worryed and intimdated because he sees everyone running 85 dollar stainless braided line kits and thinks maybe running a hardline isint a good idea since he sees all of these oil line kits on all the setups. think that could be a possibility?

drunkinmaster1 01-07-2006 01:33 PM

Re: hard steel brake line as feed line
 

Originally Posted by rawr
whats wrong with people making there own oil lines ::)

bending hardline isint ---- if he gets a bender it will take him just about as long to use it as installing a stainless kit. its not rocket science. The kids probebly worryed and intimdated because he sees everyone running 85 dollar stainless braided line kits and thinks maybe running a hardline isint a good idea since he sees all of these oil line kits on all the setups. think that could be a possibility?

agreed. this is hmt after all. the cheaper, the better.were looking for the cheapest way which isnt necessarly the worst way. if someones gonna go through all the effort of doing charge piping, manifold, injectors etc.... what differance is it to do a few bends in an oil line wich whould look nicer than some loose braided steel line. i think that this whould be a perfect tech project for hmt.

mycrx 01-07-2006 02:50 PM

Re: hard steel brake line as feed line
 

Originally Posted by mycrx
u want cheap, i went to a place that deals in semi truck air hoses and llines, 17 bucks for braided line like 36 inches long, it included the -an fittings on it as well. so all i needed was a fitting for the back of my block and one for the turbo :) like 25 dollars later u have urself a oil line, no different then any other ones.

and i quote myself, it doesnt get much fuckn cheaper trust me.


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