First off, if you would take the time to read Maximum boost, you would know that not every intercooler gives you the same amount of pressure drop. It depends on the size of it, and how everything is put together.

Get a boost gauge and see how much it boosts. Who gives a ---- how much pressure loss there is. Just get an MBC, and pay someone to tune it. It seems to me you don't have the knowledge to tune a car by yourself.

Your kit is a piece of ----, and yes, this is a turbo forum, but it's not a "hold my hand because I have no clue what I'm doing" forum.

 

thanks for the input.

I have heard of boost creep and all that other good stuff, but would i have that problem with a "kit" that has had so much engineering behind it? i mean my friend i bought it off of ran this kit on his car for several years and had no issues. i believe he had a gauge, though. But with the eManage controlling the fuel system and all the other parts i don't think i should have any problems should i?

If its that important, i guess i'll have to get one. I just don't want any "indicators" inside the car. I sprayed the IC black and hid it behind the bumper, so you can't see it.

My turbo VW didn't come with a boost gauge from the factory, nor did my turbo saab i had several years ago. Thats why i thought they're not necessary. but hey, if i'm wrong, i'm wrong. that was my thinking though.

thanks again for the input.

 

AMEN!!!
Not all intercoolers are the same, None of us run Greddy Kits, We build our own so We really don't know. We are a little mean to nOObs, Yes, because 75% of them ask DUMB questions, not all of them, but a lot of them.

Why don't you spend 10min, pull the guage from your GTI, and see for yourself what you Hand-Me-Down Civic is hitting.

 

my kit may be a piece of ----, but its a cheap piece of ---- that was available to me... it was that or nothing. and i think even the most elitist homemadeturboer would get the greddy kit over nothing.

i understand that intercoolers are different, and like i said this was just my curiosity, i'm not engineering a new kit for the car... i don't need exact numbers, i was curious for my own knowledge. I don't feel like paying 30 bucks and tracking down a book to answer one question that i just want to know the answer to on a whim.

if for some odd reason i decide to increase the boost, an MBC and a professional to install and tune it was the plan. i made no false pretenses that i was a tech and/or that i was going to do this myself.

Honestly guys, this is ridiculous. If i was a newbie that came on here and said "what is a turbo and how does it work? what does it do?" THEN your reactions would be warranted.

but for one freakin' question - seriously.... you going to make me go buy a book? just do someone the favor and save them some time.
I am a member of other forums on other topics i know about. If someone comes in and asks a question, i don't send them to the library. If its one simple question, you can answer it. If its a broad generic question, then yes, read the FAQ and get a book.

nice members over here. nice people.

 

will do....

FYI the only difference between the greddy kit and your homebrew is the eManage. so why the hating? would i be "cool" if i was using Uberdata or a VAFCII?

 

No, you're pretty much rolling in and asking how a turbo system works - the same goddamn question as asking how a turbo works. Because it's not just a turbo, it is an integrated system.

Go buy the book and learn your 101, like a good little n00b.

 

asking whether the addition of an IC creates a pressure drop or increase is asking how a turbo system works? ok dude, sure.

if you want to get technical, every thread in this forum is regarding how a turbo system works.

well i'm going to bed, no need to continue the drama. If you want to sit there and be a "i made it myself" elitist, thats cool man. I also see you are on the staff of this forum. Well thats comforting to know. Do yourself a favor: never work in a customer service department anywhere. why don't you go live in the mountains somewhere, and don't bother anybody. I think your wonderful "people" skills would be put to their best use there.

FYI i didn't just "roll" in here... i've been a member for several months, reading and learning on here. i just never post (and now i realize that is for obvious reasons). Just keep this in mind: everyone starts somewhere, no one knows everything from the get go. i have read just about every FAQ and "newbies read this first" thread i could find on here.... i am sure when you were a newbie you were slammed for every question you had too, huh? right? or do you just feel like a better person because you post constructive comments in threads started by newbies.... because you sure do add a lot of quality to this site, let me tell you....

One last question Mr. Joseph Davis. What do you contribute to this site? do you add anything constructive here? do you help other people? or do you just post comments telling people how stupid they are, or calling them newbies? Maybe you just "hang out" here because this is your social life? not really here to discuss turbos, just chit chat with other internet friends? Don't answer, its rhetorical. do you know what that means? if not, buy a dictionary.... $30 on amazon. i won't tell you what it means, because its a vocabulary related question. i know this is a vocabulary forum, but we make up our own words here.

mods, feel free to lock/close this thread before it obviously gets nasty. I got my answers from a helpful person on here already, and i see it took them SO much of their time to post it too... and it took all of 2 sentences to reply that answer to me too. But for every quality helpful post i guess one can expect ten posts from elitists insulting users and adding nothing to this board.

 

What's "elitist" mean?


JP

 

 

Yep, it sure is.

Guess what? Corkshite Baloney's Maximum Boost (to my wallet) compendium of recycled factoids and gibberings covers just that - pressure drop across intercoolers!

1) I do work in a customer service related field. I'm not nice to idiots there, either.

2) I do live in the mountians. I wouldn't dream of moving anywhere else.

3) My HMT Staff label is purely honorary these days, although I do get to terrorize the moderator's forum.

Actually, I'm an east coast boy who fell out of Triumphs and SBFs, and for some reason got into Hondas back '95-96. I did my first swap - probably the first in WNC - before I *poof* materialized on the bad intarweb circa '96. I already had a goo bit of grease under my nails, and most the stuff I'd done I'd had to figure out myself with no handholding from voices over the internet.

Has it ever occurred to you that sometimes what you need to hear is what you least want to? Your general level of knowledge is lacking. If you possessed half of what you needed, you would have stumbled over one of my various writeups. Most of the latter ones are to found on pgmfi.org's Theory forum - you might like to check it out.

In a nutshell, whenever someone needs something tested by a professional - with my schooling/degrees in automotive technology, EE, welding, etc, I'm about as professional as it gets in the DIY performance arena - so that you can cut through all the yammering and fuzzy logic of the amateur beta testers, it comes to me. All the old Ghettodyne testing was done on my CRX, which later Jason Parker inherited and took several orders of magnitude beyond what I'd had a hand in. You can thank me for Uberdata up to version 1.2. Dan Nicoson's electronic water injection controller will be on my SOHC when it's assembled for final beta testing before release to the public in kit form, and Blundar's electronic boost/traction controller will be on my CRX for beta testing before eventual retail sale.

I've tuned more cars than you'll own in your life.

If I'm cranky, so what? I'm doing this for free. I'm not trying to tell you that you need something based solely on the fact I'm trying to sell it to you. I share everything I know - but all you want to know is page twenty-seven of Maximum Boost, and resent the fact you've been told to patch the holes in your knowledge by reading a basic primer on the subject of turbocharging.

PS - you should hear how I talk to my friends - I'm not even remotely nice to them, like I am to you. kiss kiss