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90 SiR Hatchie 03-12-2004 12:05 PM

Good turbo for B16??
 
As the title says, would this have a bad lag time and will it last through 9k rpms?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2466377853

greddycrx 03-12-2004 12:09 PM

Re:Good turbo for B16??
 
i would think that turbo would work fine. my friend is going to turbo his b16 and he is a bit confused if he wants that same turbo you just posted or the other T3/T4E that that guy has for sale also. i would think both would spool decently and pull all the way to redline

90 SiR Hatchie 03-12-2004 12:54 PM

Re:Good turbo for B16??
 
I really want that Super 60 he has but it hasnt been on ebay in a couple days.

hotrex 03-12-2004 01:04 PM

Re:Good turbo for B16??
 
that might not be enough turbo....the 48 exhaust wheel will hold u back

greddycrx 03-12-2004 01:52 PM

Re:Good turbo for B16??
 
hotrex: even being a t3/t4???

90 SiR Hatchie: the super 60 he has isnt a real super 60 t3. the one he has still has a .48 exhaust which may be too small for a b16 if you want hard top end pull and more boost. have you seen the T3/T4E that he sells? that one looks good also and is like $40-50 more


90 SiR Hatchie 03-12-2004 04:56 PM

Re:Good turbo for B16??
 
Almost every turbo ive seen has a 48 hot side correct??

dennis leary 03-12-2004 05:09 PM

Re:Good turbo for B16??
 

Originally Posted by hotrex
that might not be enough turbo....the 48 exhaust wheel will hold u back

Agreed. A B16 should have a .63a/r and go for a 54 trim. That will make very streetable whp. 0 psi on a turbo exhaust(2.5"-3") will probably hit around 4500-5k rpm which gives you about 3000rpm of full boost and pull ------- hard to redline

a .48 will spool a hell of a lot earlier but also it will stop making power probably around 7k rpm. really limit your top end on an engine that relies on big top end to make up for its total lack of tq.

90 SiR Hatchie 03-12-2004 05:18 PM

Re:Good turbo for B16??
 
I think im gettin confused... The turbine(hot) side is almost always 48/ar on a T3 correct?? Now what i should be concerned about is the size of the compressor wheel correct?? And the Compressor housing ar???

With the turbo listed above (T3-To4b), it has a 54 trim compressor wheel and 60/ar housing, and the hot side is 48/ar. You think that turbo will be too small for a B16??

dennis leary 03-12-2004 05:35 PM

Re:Good turbo for B16??
 
its not that its too small or too big, its not the correct turbo for your application. If you are going to spend money now, atleast buy the right turbo the first time.

A .48 on the hot side simply will not produce as well as a .63 on the hot side. You should really find a turbo that is a .63/.60 with about a 54 trim.

You could even probably get away with a .63/.60 T3 but a TRUE Super 60 would be the best for your needs.


greddycrx 03-12-2004 06:13 PM

Re:Good turbo for B16??
 

Originally Posted by dennis leary
its not that its too small or too big, its not the correct turbo for your application. If you are going to spend money now, atleast buy the right turbo the first time.

A .48 on the hot side simply will not produce as well as a .63 on the hot side. You should really find a turbo that is a .63/.60 with about a 54 trim.

You could even probably get away with a .63/.60 T3 but a TRUE Super 60 would be the best for your needs.



i totally agree! a 63/60 should be better. a 48 exhaust will cause quick spool but will lack on top end.

jake2001z001 03-12-2004 06:15 PM

Re:Good turbo for B16??
 
get teh 60/63. you will be happy with it

90 SiR Hatchie 03-12-2004 07:07 PM

Re:Good turbo for B16??
 
Any links of one of those on ebay?? oh and by the way im only goin 8-9 psi..

dennis leary 03-12-2004 07:18 PM

Re:Good turbo for B16??
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2466540343

Buy that or be a dumbass forever

90 SiR Hatchie 03-12-2004 07:21 PM

Re:Good turbo for B16??
 
That one is still a 48/ar on the hot side???

90 SiR Hatchie 03-12-2004 07:28 PM

Re:Good turbo for B16??
 
Ok imma break this down for myself...

exhaust gas spins the ____ wheel? Which in turn spins the ____ wheel that pushes the air into the intercooler. I think that'll cover it... Then there ar's hmm..

dennis leary 03-12-2004 07:31 PM

Re:Good turbo for B16??
 
Okay here goes. Your exhaust gases turn the turbine(hot side, .48,.63, and a few more sizes) Which then allows your compressor side to turn (.42, .60, cold side) which sucks the air in and sends it through the charge pipes.

I hope that explains things

90 SiR Hatchie 03-12-2004 07:36 PM

Re:Good turbo for B16??
 
Basically turbine = RPM range and the compressor = Boost range correct??

B16Drag 03-12-2004 07:48 PM

Re:Good turbo for B16??
 
Hatchie,

I got a T3 .60 on cold side and .48 on exhaust side. It fits my application because i want quick spool and not so much high PSI or tons of power up top. I'm planning to run 7-8psi daily on stock B16, and at most 10-12psi. If you want tons of of power up top or at HIGH RPMS above 7k get the .60 on cold and .63 on hot. If you had a T3 .60/.63 and you raced me at a set RPM, you'll pull harder than I will (thats what someone more knowledgable about turbo than me told me)

If you are still confused call up the guy or PM the guy selling the turbos on eBay. Hes a nice guy and will give you the low down on things.

But if you got dough, get the Super 60 from Turbonetics as someone posted up above. Those are the ones you want... but like I said:

T3 .60/.48 - quick spool, more for boost at lower rpm (daily driving)
T3 .60/.63 - a bit slower spool, more for lots of boost at high RPMS i.e. after 7k
Super 60 T3 - very good turbo for b16, but mucho dinero.

I think any of these will work just a matter of what you have in mind and how much HP you want to make... I hope this helps...

90 SiR Hatchie 03-12-2004 07:53 PM

Re:Good turbo for B16??
 
Basically i want a turbo that will boost fairly quick and stay at 8-10 Psi to 8500 rpms... and im hoping for 250ish or more hp..

B16Drag 03-12-2004 07:57 PM

Re:Good turbo for B16??
 
Any of those three will suit you. Whichever one you can get your hands on but if you arent super rich, get either the .60/.48 or the .60/.63. You'll be fine with either one at the psi. Depending on when you want the turbo to be at full spool, you'll have to decide between the .60/.48 or the .60/.63.

90 SiR Hatchie 03-12-2004 08:01 PM

Re:Good turbo for B16??
 
So you think that fake Super 60 the guy on ebay sells will boost till 8500 rpms decently.?

B16Drag 03-12-2004 08:04 PM

Re:Good turbo for B16??
 
Thats the guy I bought it from and sure as hell hope it will boost up to 8.2k at least. I think you'll be fine with the T3 .60/.63

90 SiR Hatchie 03-12-2004 08:06 PM

Re:Good turbo for B16??
 
Kewl thanx for all your help..


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