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topspeed 01-18-2005 07:25 PM

is the flexpipe necessary?
 
ok so after my downpipe most cars have that flex pipe section right...i don't have that yet do i really need it?

fsufan814 01-18-2005 07:27 PM

Re:is the flexpipe necessary?
 
depends, how good are your motor mounts?

SpankedYA! 01-18-2005 07:29 PM

Re:is the flexpipe necessary?
 
It is if you dont want your exhaust to crack.

fsufan814 01-18-2005 07:33 PM

Re:is the flexpipe necessary?
 

Originally Posted by CSaddict
It is if you dont want your exhaust to crack.

pretty much what i was getting at, sometimes people with solid motor mounts can get away with not having one though

HMT-Admin 01-18-2005 07:35 PM

Re:is the flexpipe necessary?
 
I say its a must.. I had pretty solid mounts and my exhaust hangers would always break.


SpankedYA! 01-18-2005 07:38 PM

Re:is the flexpipe necessary?
 
They are fairly cheap on Ebay, or from your local exhasust shop.

tranceminister 01-18-2005 07:46 PM

Re:is the flexpipe necessary?
 
I use a flexpipe, but if you use those Factory Honda spring bolts that origionally connected your cat to your header pipe, do they do the same thinge essentially?

HMT-Admin 01-18-2005 07:49 PM

Re:is the flexpipe necessary?
 

Originally Posted by tranceminister
I use a flexpipe, but if you use those Factory Honda spring bolts that origionally connected your cat to your header pipe, do they do the same thinge essentially?

yup but you have to use the "ball socket" flange setup, And most of the factory ball socket flanges are really small around 2 1/4 and maybe 2 1/2. So I normally use standard 3in flanges (flat) with no cat convertor.

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/p...ns-covered.jpg

These babys are you friend =)

tranceminister 01-18-2005 07:52 PM

Re:is the flexpipe necessary?
 
Very true 8) I've alway's had flexpipes in my setups and never had any exhaust problems (except for that SSauto mani, but thats another story).

fsufan814 01-18-2005 09:35 PM

Re:is the flexpipe necessary?
 

Originally Posted by AbaZ

Originally Posted by tranceminister
I use a flexpipe, but if you use those Factory Honda spring bolts that origionally connected your cat to your header pipe, do they do the same thinge essentially?

yup but you have to use the "ball socket" flange setup, And most of the factory ball socket flanges are really small around 2 1/4 and maybe 2 1/2. So I normally use standard 3in flanges (flat) with no cat convertor.

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/p...ns-covered.jpg

These babys are you friend =)

best place to source these???? how much??

tranceminister 01-18-2005 09:37 PM

Re:is the flexpipe necessary?
 
I went to the local autoparts store here for one and they quoted me over $100. I don't remember the exact ammount but I almost ---- myself :-\ I ended up finding some good ones on Ebay for like $25.

88dx 01-18-2005 09:45 PM

Re:is the flexpipe necessary?
 
Their is no need for a flexpipe, Open downpipe owns all. Its also a lot cheaper 8)

fsufan814 01-18-2005 09:50 PM

Re:is the flexpipe necessary?
 

Originally Posted by 88dx
Their is no need for a flexpipe, Open downpipe owns all. Its also a lot cheaper 8)

and also scares women and small children

topspeed 01-18-2005 09:57 PM

Re:is the flexpipe necessary?
 
^ HAHA...

at my local muffler shop they sell them for like $40 canadian haha i guess i'm gonna have to get one or look on EBAY, thanks.

crx304 01-18-2005 10:20 PM

Re:is the flexpipe necessary?
 

Originally Posted by 88dx
Their is no need for a flexpipe, Open downpipe owns all. Its also a lot cheaper 8)

believe it or not, but when i had only my DP on, (running stock boost) i maxed out at 7psi, it sounded like a UPS truck, and was laggy as hell on the bottom end.

so then i decided to hook up my 2 1/2", no cat, flowmaster w/ dual outlets, and bottom end increased dramatically. not touching a damn thing, i was now peaking @ 10 psi and leveling @ 9psi, and my friend said it sounded like a german sportscar.

now this is only going on my experience, yours is prolly different.

to stay on topic, go w/ the flexpipe or ball gaskets!

mike

fsufan814 01-18-2005 10:30 PM

Re:is the flexpipe necessary?
 

Originally Posted by crx304

Originally Posted by 88dx
Their is no need for a flexpipe, Open downpipe owns all. Its also a lot cheaper 8)

believe it or not, but when i had only my DP on, (running stock boost) i maxed out at 7psi, it sounded like a UPS truck, and was laggy as hell on the bottom end.

so then i decided to hook up my 2 1/2", no cat, flowmaster w/ dual outlets, and bottom end increased dramatically. not touching a damn thing, i was now peaking @ 10 psi and leveling @ 9psi, and my friend said it sounded like a german sportscar.

now this is only going on my experience, yours is prolly different.

to stay on topic, go w/ the flexpipe or ball gaskets!

mike

this shows that breaking up the gasses is important

plus, back pressure owned you 8)

HMT-Admin 01-18-2005 11:05 PM

Re:is the flexpipe necessary?
 
hmm thats werid, it usually works the other way around. Everytime I've ever ran open DP it usually increases spool time.

I also 2nd the open DP, its really not that loud on a honda/acura 4 cylinder.


Dr.Boost 01-18-2005 11:16 PM

Re:is the flexpipe necessary?
 
Damn, big ballers in here. :P I go to Checker and buy the exhaust repair kit with an 18" flex pipe and a clamp for $7.99 :P I've got two of those bad boys on my car right now. 8)
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HMT-Admin 01-18-2005 11:23 PM

Re:is the flexpipe necessary?
 

Originally Posted by Dr.Boost
Damn, big ballers in here. :P I go to Checker and buy the exhaust repair kit with an 18" flex pipe and a clamp for $7.99 :P I've got two of those bad boys on my car right now. 8)

Dr.boost aka Dr.Hack :-X

Reddy 01-18-2005 11:30 PM

Re:is the flexpipe necessary?
 

Originally Posted by fsufan814

this shows that breaking up the gasses is important

plus, back pressure owned you 8)




Backpressure on a turbo is bad. The best exhaust for a turbo is no exhaust. Actually if you could hook up a vacuum cleaner to your exhaust it would be the best.

Dr.Boost 01-18-2005 11:32 PM

Re:is the flexpipe necessary?
 
----, my setup is top notch sucka. This is the first setup I've ever had that I started with no open downpipe. I have a full exhaust with a muffler and everything. :)
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88dx 01-18-2005 11:34 PM

Re:is the flexpipe necessary?
 

Originally Posted by Dr.Boost
Damn, big ballers in here. :P I go to Checker and buy the exhaust repair kit with an 18" flex pipe and a clamp for $7.99 :P I've got two of those bad boys on my car right now. 8)

LOL good ---- right their ;)

jspec89 01-18-2005 11:44 PM

Re:is the flexpipe necessary?
 
im confused??. there is this kid in my area with an eclipse and i dont know his set up is weird i cant figure out if its a greddy kit or what cause the intercooler says greddy but he prob just bought a greddy intercooler but anyway. he did some custom ---- and he has like and acutal muffler sticking out of his front bumper then he has the regular exhaust. what the hell is the one in the front from. whatever it is it sounds like crap. worse than a ------ ups truck.

Reddy 01-18-2005 11:46 PM

Re:is the flexpipe necessary?
 
thats an external open wastegate that you hear

jspec89 01-18-2005 11:55 PM

Re:is the flexpipe necessary?
 
ok thanks whitey. cause i can always hear that POS driving around. i like the sound of my rex with a short ram and header with no exhaust better and even that sounds bad. maybe its just the way he did it. it really does sound like he's driving a truck.

djfob 01-19-2005 02:25 AM

Re:is the flexpipe necessary?
 

Originally Posted by Whitey

Backpressure on a turbo is bad. The best exhaust for a turbo is no exhaust. Actually if you could hook up a vacuum cleaner to your exhaust it would be the best.

hmm this would be an interesting project :P

Spenser 01-19-2005 03:19 AM

Re:is the flexpipe necessary?
 
hooking up a vacuum to your breather is also benificial ;).

I didn't have a flex pipe, I drove about 1500 miles with no flex pipe, no problems there. My new downpipe is not gona have a flex pipe either. O ----, i just realized as I was typing the last sentence that thats probly the reason why I kept blowing DP gaskets. Ok never mind, run a flex pipe. ;D

Reddy 01-19-2005 03:42 AM

Re:is the flexpipe necessary?
 

Originally Posted by Spenser
hooking up a vacuum to your breather is also benificial ;).


Are you saying that jokingly or are you serious? Cause you know that is true, it frees up horsepower.

MR_DR_PEP 01-19-2005 10:17 AM

Re:is the flexpipe necessary?
 

Originally Posted by AbaZ
hmm thats werid, it usually works the other way around. Everytime I've ever ran open DP it usually increases spool time.

I also 2nd the open DP, its really not that loud on a honda/acura 4 cylinder.


When I ran open DP, my boost would creep like crazy. I now have a 2.5" exhaust with dynomax race muffler (basically a silencer). Before this exhaust, I had 2" pacesetter that restricted overall flow, but I had more low-end torque for sure. With the 2.5" race exhaust, I can hear the turbo spool much better, but it doesn't pull very well down low, but I have a much harder pull on top-end.

topspeed 01-19-2005 12:24 PM

Re:is the flexpipe necessary?
 
that would melt the ---- out of the vacum cleaner haha

fsufan814 01-19-2005 12:27 PM

Re:is the flexpipe necessary?
 

Originally Posted by topspeed
that would melt the ---- out of the vacum cleaner haha

::) :-X

Spenser 01-19-2005 03:56 PM

Re:is the flexpipe necessary?
 

Originally Posted by Whitey

Originally Posted by Spenser
hooking up a vacuum to your breather is also benificial ;).


Are you saying that jokingly or are you serious? Cause you know that is true, it frees up horsepower.

I was saying it seriously, but as a joke. It creates a suction in the crank case and pulls the rings hard against the cylinder walls. Big block guys and the motorcycle drag dude use them alot. I'm hooking up a vacum motor to the breather of my v6 minivan, it bunrs alot of oil :(


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