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spinninhonda 12-24-2007 11:34 AM

f22a1 boost help
 
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im running crome dsm 450s 16g turbo and crome, at 4gs in 2nd 3rd or 4th y car doesnt get ----, like a redline any help? o ya, and a 255 fuel pump heres the base in crome

Oscar 12-24-2007 11:37 AM

Re: f22a1 boost help
 
Are you running a 2.5 bar sensor?

Vtec is also enabled.

Do you get any CEL's?

jarebear667 12-24-2007 12:13 PM

Re: f22a1 boost help
 
ur post makes not sense? what do you mean doent get ----? boost? rpms>?

spinninhonda 12-24-2007 12:18 PM

Re: f22a1 boost help
 
it redlines, and just stops, yes a 2.5 bar, and vtec is disabled,now, and im getting code 14 which makes no sense i just put a brand new one on, any help?

Oscar 12-24-2007 01:52 PM

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Disable it.

That's the only code you get? That shouldn't make your ecu go into limp mode.

The ecu/chip burn could be messed up.

onecarayear 12-24-2007 02:02 PM

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its actually a 14b.. motorola 2.5 bar.. p05 ecu.. 2g dsm 450's first gear is awesome!!!! then 2nd gear starts bogging crackin and poppin at about 3500rpms... if we turn off the iac it really really runs like ----...

Oscar 12-24-2007 02:06 PM

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How's the AFR's in 2nd and 3rd at WOT?

Oscar 12-24-2007 02:08 PM

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Well ----, after actually paying attention, your entire boost tables have the same ------- fuel values.

Looks like you're running lean.

Oscar 12-24-2007 02:13 PM

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Try this real quick.

onecarayear 12-24-2007 02:32 PM

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ill post up asap!! thanks.. im waitin on spinnin to bring the burner

spinninhonda 12-24-2007 04:43 PM

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wow, that map wont even run the car, so im not sure what you did but the car does NOT like it

spinninhonda 12-24-2007 04:46 PM

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its in the timing

onecarayear 12-24-2007 05:44 PM

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man i duno whats up.. ur base it wont idle, and crackin and poppin at 3000.. i do apreciate to help but man im lost.... with the original tune im idleing but not proper, acting like iac and 1st is great, but anything else sux.. ur base im ot getting iac code... please help!!!!

Oscar 12-24-2007 06:04 PM

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Do you have a wideband?

If not, then just stop doing anything.

It's a waste of time to be trying to figure out the problem if you don't know what the car is doing.

losesomethinbra 12-24-2007 11:03 PM

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My code 14 puts me in limp mode, so I had to disable the iacv on the .bin itself using crome

onecarayear 12-25-2007 12:38 AM

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whats ur settup? my iac off seemed detrimental to the car....

Oscar 12-25-2007 04:07 PM

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Make sure you hooked up the 2.5bar correctly.

onecarayear 12-25-2007 05:36 PM

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man guys i believe im gettin somewhere... my map is correct... im a lil dumb at this tuneing stuff but heres what ive got now and only code im pulling is 41 (o2 sensor) and car seems to be running damn good! not perfect, but good and safe, i believe... but at a stop in 1st holding 3000 to launch it boggs a bit then launches... and 2nd still boggs aroung 4k.. i do not have a wideband i know im risking it every time i retry, but the motor has 276k and i paid $100 for the car shes my baby but i know its guna go sometime.... a buddy has a wideband im going to put on it soon to see but itll do 4 now.... let me know what you think asap....

talonator1488 12-25-2007 08:49 PM

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Im running an f22a turbo setup, car runs awesome. You can have my bin if you want. But its for a stock honda map, and 14b.

spinninhonda 12-26-2007 08:47 AM

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sure lets try it out, always in need for some good basemaps

Oscar 12-26-2007 01:16 PM

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Are you really going to boost above 11 psi on that small ass 14b? That's a HORRIBLE idea on an f22.

You'll seriously put it out of its efficiency range.

Go back to the stock map, and I'll send you a known working basemap.

onecarayear 12-26-2007 02:44 PM

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14b's are efficiant up to 16 psi the t25's were only 12... 14 psi is stock wastegate for 1g dsms

HMTguy 12-26-2007 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by onecarayear
14 psi is stock wastegate for 1g dsms

Incorrect. The stock wg is set at ~8 psi and raised higher with a solenoid.

spinninhonda 12-26-2007 03:33 PM

Re: f22a1 boost help
 
1g automatic were 8psi and 2gs as well, 14 is the KNOWN correct psi for awd and turbo fwd 5spd

seerex 12-26-2007 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by spinninhonda
1g automatic were 8psi and 2gs as well, 14 is the KNOWN correct psi for awd and turbo fwd 5spd

I think jagojon3 knows what he is talking about.

onecarayear 12-26-2007 06:44 PM

Re: f22a1 boost help
 
so why when i hook the vac line from the j-pipe (similar to the 1g dsm) to my wastegate (oem 1g) with no mbc im gettin 14-15 psi? ive done three diffrent cars with diffrent motors using 14b's and getting the same... im just askin.... in my experiance theve been at 14#'s

Oscar 12-26-2007 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by onecarayear
14b's are efficiant up to 16 psi the t25's were only 12... 14 psi is stock wastegate for 1g dsms

They're efficient on 2.0 dsm motors. Not 2.2 honda motors, that have a MUCH higher volumetric efficiency.

A 14b on an f22 falls out of its efficiency range around 230whp.

onecarayear 12-27-2007 09:33 AM

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230hp range... what do you say im at? i figured the 2.2 would just spool the turbo quicker... im not planning on going crazy with this, and with a more accurate gauge looks more like im holding 11psi... what turbo would you suggest? would like to stay dsm concidering my manifold...

spinninhonda 12-27-2007 11:43 AM

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t3 man,just make an adaptor plate

Oscar 12-27-2007 11:47 AM

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a 16g would be a perfect candidate for an f22.

talonator1488 12-27-2007 04:33 PM

Re: f22a1 boost help
 

Originally Posted by onecarayear
so why when i hook the vac line from the j-pipe (similar to the 1g dsm) to my wastegate (oem 1g) with no mbc im gettin 14-15 psi? ive done three diffrent cars with diffrent motors using 14b's and getting the same... im just askin.... in my experiance theve been at 14#'s

So why when I hook my 14B wastegate to the nipple on the J-pipe do I get 8 psi? Its an 8 psi wastegate I guarantee it. Mitsu used a solenoid to up the boost to 14 psi.


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