f22 with forge pistons = good or bad?
 

sup guys, i heard that f22 have cas iron sleeve, which make them very good to boost. well, i'm in the process of building up a f22 right now. i want to be able to boost like 15 psi at the track and 10 daily. what do u guys recomend for me to do with the internal? for sure i will get new head gasket set with new timing belt and water pump from honda. pistons, rods, sleeve? thanx. i'm currently boosting a stock f22 with 9 psi.

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Yeah we talked about this. Anyone have any input? Should the crank be replaced?

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IMO no.. the crank doesnt need to be replaced.. but it could be knife edged. and cryo-treated.. but thats just un-necc :P

as for 15 psi at the track

forged piston/rod combo
turbo cam
EMS/Dyno Tune
better cooling system i.e higher capacity radiator/higher rpm fans
that alone can make it hold 15psi at the track

theres a member on here.. that ran 20+psi on his F for a few days before blowing the stock ringlands out of 2 pistons i believe he was on afc hack

was it josh??
the accord was 90-93.. yellow spark plug wires.. white in color..it was an engine bay shot.. bleh.. if you know who this is tell them to come outta the woods! ;)

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legacyf22t
you think my stock sleeve can take 15 psi? i heard that is not good to use forge pistons on stock sleeve? is that true?i have like 3 f22b1 engines. 2 is just setting around. i also got a h22a1.i was about to build up the H22a1, but i decided to boost the f22 instead, cuz i heard that f22 can take much more boost then the h22.

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that was me, but i didin't have yellow spark plug wires, i had yellow optima battery!!

it was ruffly 25 psi on pump gas (witch is what killed it) on an afc hack at 65 psi of fuel pressure.

I ran it like that for 2 weeks, and then blew it up (ring lands)

-Josh

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both you guys are using the afc hack if i remember correctly right?

i think 15psi would be pushing it on stock cast iron sleeves...dont get me wrong they can handle alot...but i dont think that much...maybe it could hold it for a while, but not long...

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hahaha i knew it was joo josh! see man.. 25------- psi for 2 weeks.. f22a's go for 100-300? lol.. that must be some money well spent ey josh??? :P

and adam.. wrong buddy.. 15psi isnt too much for the stock sleeves..thats what makes this motor so nice.

remember thats not gonna be daily psi.. either.. then again.. i bet it could take that too

in stock form.. f22a>h22a when boost is in question..

and yes the cast iron block accepts forged pistons.. like stock replacements.. unlike.. the shitty FRM compound thats found in the h22a.. which means u have to de-sleeve and re-sleeve the slut..

so again.. as long as your fuel management is up to par.. and your not raping the motor in the sky high rpms.. then it will be fine.. i say this because.. there are some.. cough cough.. adam.. cough cough.. who arnt gonna touch the intenrals of the motor.. but then again hes not gonna run 15psi.. only 8.. teheheh :P... i was saying this because the rods are the weak link in the Fs stock form..they can take abuse but to a certain extent..

anyway.. be boost happy and let us know how things go..

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i was hoping that i don't have to sleeve my f22. i'm gonna order my pistons and rods next week. as far as all the information i been getting. this are the things i'm gonna do to my f22 block
-cp pistons/and eagle rods
-balance engine
-honda head gasket, timing belt,water pump, and all new sels
-ACL main and rod bearings. anybody heard of ACL bearing?
-port and polish head
-turbo cam

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blah i hate you carlos smart ass youngin!! ;D

thats cool dood...what kinda fuel mgmt you runnin though?

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i'm running afc hack as in this point. damn i just did some readjustment on my clutch (it was sleeping) and change my vafc setting and turn my vtec back on. now the car is pulling so hard. never felt my car running this fast ever.
i will get stanealone when i get my other f22 done. i'm not in a rush with getting it done, i'm happy with the engine in it right now.

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since ur current motor is vtec.. toss that stock ecu for a chipped p28 foo :P

bleh.. lol dont hate adam..

yeh i agree f22turboaccord.. thats a good list of things to do.. dont forget about cooling.. the cooler you run it the longer it will last and the more power you make..

:)

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im running the hack also witht he btm....hope it runs good...keep us updated on your progress also

i swear i hate you carlos

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aznbadass92lx
how does the hack run with the btm? i herad alot of ppl say that the car run better with out the btm.

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well id rather retard wit the btm than at the dizzy, its more safe....and one way or another you have to or else mega advanced timing=boom

and even if the tuner says itll be fine at the dizzy i can sell the btm cuz i only bought it for 85 shipped and they go for like 150 on ebay

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92lx
what is your setting on your afc hack? how many degree do u retard per pound of boost with your btm? r u running a high flow catalytic converter?

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well its not installed yet, but from what i kno...i have been told to start somewhere around -35 for all the settings and go from there when tuning wideband and dyno...

and retard somewhere between 1-2 degrees leaning closer to 2

stock cat

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you fools and your stock cats. when will u listen to me?

finally f22turboaccord has seen the light (tonight actually). I'm sure I'll hear all about it tomorrow.

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florida = no emissions crap.. = go no cat.. or go home. :P

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stupid chicago big city emission laws >:(

o well...

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damn, the car run so just better with a test pipe in it. it pulls so hard in secound gear. it actually pull so hard that i got torque stear (vehicle pull to one side) i just bought this T bold clamps today, damn, they are not cheap.

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too bad i cant do a test pipe...emissions are so strict here blah...itll be hard enough as it is to pass wit the turbo

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like i was telling eric.. u guys get tested every 2yrs right??

well ---- when it comes time to get tested put the stock cat back on.. once ur onde.. put the test pipe back on.. no big deal..

and yeh. the stock cat is a big restriction 10-15hp worth.. i think ive heard that somewhere..

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stock sleeves can hold 20+ pounds of boost easily, just as long as their is no detonation (pre) people have seen 500+ whp on gsr's with stock sleeves overbored to 81.5mm..

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well i still have my stock cat...wit the turbo+stock cat u think i would be able to pass?

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turbo90accord
r u saying that any honda engine can take 20 psi or just the one with cas iron sleeve?
92lx
are you talking about passing smoge? for sure you will fail smoke. they will fail u for visual inspection.

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He's saying that F22 sleeves are actually stronger than most other honda engines, and it shouldnt be something you should be worried about right now. Get a good set of pistons and rods. Decently sized turbo and good engine management setup and the thing will make great ------- power.

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what he said^^^^^ :D :-*

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thanx abaz, i just want to make sure before i start to build up my f22b1 engine. my pistons and rods are order. cp pistons and i think eagle rods. can't wait to mass out my boost gauge. i'm happy with 9psi right now, imagine 20?

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lol be-careful.. dont need u slapping the rev limit all the time.. yeh its fun.. but make sure u keep it going.. shifting early always helps :P

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i notices my car start to like loose power when my vtec and boost max out at 9psi. is my staok ingition to weak ? do i need to upgraded to stronger ignition? i'm also running stock spark plugs.

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no im just talkin about regular emissions, i dont live in cali...

8psi is good enough for me, and that i kno our cast iron greatness can handle 8)

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you damn emissions fearing pussies!

yeah so the cops have mirrors and ----, well here is what you can do:

buy a spare OEM cat. Knock out the ceramic honeycomb discs inside. Weld a straight thru pipe on the inside to prevent backpressure/echo effect. Unbolt your stock cat. Bolt up your stock looking test pipe cat. Replace with stock cat right before emisions.

It's that simple!

I walked f22turboaccord thru this one already, he has the toys so I'm sure he will be fullfilling the product.

**NOTE: FOR OFF ROAD USE ONLY**
(there, I'm legit now!)

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well ive already talked to the guy about my install...he'll give me a test pipe, and when i go in for emissions he'll swap my cats for me ;) :P

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my car does run alot better when i install the test pipe. my car use to want to die out when my turbo is max boost 9psi and my vtec is on. now it just go right up to right line with no problem at all. the next thing i want to get a msd6al.

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see...i dont wanna install a test pipe :-\

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Adam is a tree hugger! :P

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;D