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civcmatt 11-17-2007 06:53 PM

DSM turbo on H series...
 
alrighty hello guys. have loved the site for a few years now...just never posted because i had never planned on turbo....but things change!!!! ;D

so here are my few questions. i got a 90-94 Talon Turbo for free and was wondering what the code number is....i think i found TD05H-16G? is that correct? im not sure

and also my next question is what do u think of putting this type turbo on my car? i also have the option of putting a CT26 on there as well.

and what about manifolds...what kinda adapters or manifolds has anyone found? thanks

TorganFM 11-17-2007 07:28 PM

Re: DSM turbo on H series...
 
Kinda small for a 2.2L or a 2.3L, and Talons didn't come with 16g's afaik.

civcmatt 11-17-2007 09:58 PM

Re: DSM turbo on H series...
 
aww see thats what im trying to figure out...what turbo it actually came with. and it is a bit small and thats another thing im wondering about i only wanna run somewhere around 7-8 PSI on it...dont wanna do anything dirty with it.

T0DA 11-17-2007 11:37 PM

Re: DSM turbo on H series...
 
the 16g probably came off a 3rd gen evo.
too small.

seerex 11-18-2007 12:00 AM

Re: DSM turbo on H series...
 
Dude that turbo is trash, just sell it to me I will take off you hands for 45 shipped ;).

stillnoturbo 11-18-2007 12:24 AM

Re: DSM turbo on H series...
 
If it's a stock turbo it's just a 14B or if it's an auto then it's a 13G. Not the best for an engine of that size. They are too small for the smaller 4G63 engine to begin with. Let alone a H series 2.2 or a 2.3. I'm always up for using whatever you have to get boosted though so if you got it then just use it. That fucker will be spooling with the car not even running. lol.

TorganFM 11-18-2007 01:55 AM

Re: DSM turbo on H series...
 
A 16G however will give you a cool 300hp at 5000rpm, which would be sweet, except for the power dropoff after that. But in reality that's how NA motors work most of the time.

nicko360 11-18-2007 03:50 AM

Re: DSM turbo on H series...
 

Originally Posted by crxvtec91
Dude that turbo is trash, just sell it to me I will take off you hands for 45 shipped ;).

then buy a ct-26 from me for 85 shipped

civcmatt 11-18-2007 03:58 AM

Re: DSM turbo on H series...
 
lol ok thought might be a bit small. i have a buddy that has a hybrid .50 trim CT-26 thats coming off his alltrac that i can buy from him.... but 85 is a good deal lol.

about this turbo im not sure what the code is if its a 14b 16g TD05H...i have no clue. its a stock turbo from a 93 Talon TSI AWD 5spd

and haha at spooling when not even on LMAO!

im not new to the honda scene i have 2 honda's. a 98 SOHC coupe thats fully built, and a 96 H22A hatch stock motor. im new to the turbo thing....never turboed a car yet, but figured eh hey ---- it i snagged it for free... and here come the "turbo the SOHC" replys but yeah im done with that car :3 my DD.

so do you think the CT-26 would be better? thanks guys for the replies btw

rosario4124 11-18-2007 09:45 AM

Re: DSM turbo on H series...
 
where are the pics of the coupe >:( post some :y

noboostedEGo 11-18-2007 12:15 PM

Re: DSM turbo on H series...
 

Originally Posted by civcmatt

about this turbo im not sure what the code is if its a 14b 16g TD05H...i have no clue. its a stock turbo from a 93 Talon TSI AWD 5spd


im not new to the honda scene i have 2 honda's. a 98 SOHC coupe thats fully built


Then it's a td05h-14b.

Can you please define "fully built"?


civcmatt 11-18-2007 02:58 PM

Re: DSM turbo on H series...
 
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i had a DSM guy take a look at it...he said its the T25? here is pic of said turbo http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g1...matt/turbo.jpg
starting to think maybe i should just pick up the hybrid CT-26 turbo my buddy has...think that'd be better?


anyway explain fully built here ya are....
Engine:D16Y8 block guarded
Bored .020+
crank machined .020+
Clevite bearings
i cant member the brand of oil pump
SRP Forged flattop pistons (10.5:1 compression)
Eagle H-Beam forged connecting rods
extream port and polish on head
Skunk2 springs and retainers
Crower Stage II N/A cam (Adv duration: 319/310 Duration @.050": 235/223 Gross Lift: 432/436)
AEM adjust Cam gear
Skunk2 Intake manifold
GSR Throttle body
AEM short ram intake
DC Sport 4-2-1 one piece header
high flow cat
2.25" exhuast
AEM under drive pulleys
center force Stage II clutch
Spec 10lbs alum flywheel
MSD 8.5MM Ignition wires
Chipped P28 ECU tuned with Crome.
laid down some shitty numbers 110whp and 96wtrq. (out here on the dyno i used a stock D16Y8 puts out ~85whp so not a bad jump?? since i live so freaking high alt. but still this is why im down with SOHC) here are pix
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and here is my other baby...H22A 96 Hatch
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here is a eh picture of engine bay when dropping the H22 in
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there are my cars.

Oscar 11-18-2007 03:02 PM

Re: DSM turbo on H series...
 
so you spent over 2000 dollars and only made 110whp.

awesome.

MustangC. 11-18-2007 03:07 PM

Re: DSM turbo on H series...
 

Originally Posted by d112crzy
so you spent over 2000 dollars and only made 110whp.

awesome.

which is about 35WHP less than a stock B16A swap makes. awesome

my advice would be to boost the single cam, its already got pistons and rods so its ready for 400WHP. plus with the 10.5:1 it wont be a dog out of boost and will make more power with less boost.

stillnoturbo 11-18-2007 03:12 PM

Re: DSM turbo on H series...
 
The DSM T25 is even smaller then the 14B. I've seen those spool not even bolted to anything. :X

beaker 11-18-2007 03:47 PM

Re: DSM turbo on H series...
 
hell. if there that small, use em both.....

civcmatt 11-18-2007 05:30 PM

Re: DSM turbo on H series...
 
yeah spent a bit of money and came out lame HP wise. oh well its a decent DD and still gets over 30MPG. oh well live and learn. that was my first build.


marcj 11-18-2007 05:59 PM

Re: DSM turbo on H series...
 
the only logical thing would be to boost the sohc.. run that little turbo until you can find a nice T3
you'll still get good gas mileage as long as you stay out of boost..

aero 11-18-2007 06:17 PM

Re: DSM turbo on H series...
 

Originally Posted by civcmatt
i had a DSM guy take a look at it...he said its the T25? here is pic of said turbo http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g1...matt/turbo.jpg
starting to think maybe i should just pick up the hybrid CT-26 turbo my buddy has...think that'd be better?

Thats definitely a 2g t25, unless its a T28 which isn't very likely. Its not off a 93 AWD then either, unless some 1g owner is a real tard.

rosario4124 11-18-2007 07:53 PM

Re: DSM turbo on H series...
 
too much money for no power :3 sick hatch though :y

jarebear667 11-18-2007 09:07 PM

Re: DSM turbo on H series...
 
sell the one and build the ---- out of your h22 hatch and none of the turbo's mentioned are worth a ---- on an H series. good bye O0

civcmatt 11-19-2007 12:13 AM

Re: DSM turbo on H series...
 

Originally Posted by jarebear667
sell the one and build the ---- out of your h22 hatch and none of the turbo's mentioned are worth a ---- on an H series. good bye O0


:l no? what do u recommend?

jarebear667 11-19-2007 08:10 PM

Re: DSM turbo on H series...
 
you are looking for a turbo for an h series right? whats the talk about your d series for? i run a turbonetics t4 62-1 turbo spools nicely and pulls hard all the way to 8500.

civcmatt 11-19-2007 09:26 PM

Re: DSM turbo on H series...
 

Originally Posted by jarebear667
you are looking for a turbo for an h series right? whats the talk about your d series for? i run a turbonetics t4 62-1 turbo spools nicely and pulls hard all the way to 8500.


cuz i knew it would be brought up... lol.

but yes lookin for a boosted H.. thanks for the advise though...ill look into a few options

Oscar 11-19-2007 11:28 PM

Re: DSM turbo on H series...
 

Originally Posted by CoreyR
which is about 35WHP less than a stock B16A swap makes. awesome

my advice would be to boost the single cam, its already got pistons and rods so its ready for 400WHP. plus with the 10.5:1 it wont be a dog out of boost and will make more power with less boost.

yea, I would never get a b16 anyways ::)

for about a 1000 more, he could have gotten a b16 swap done, if he knew how to shop. O0

civcmatt 11-20-2007 12:11 AM

Re: DSM turbo on H series...
 

Originally Posted by d112crzy
yea, I would never get a b16 anyways ::)

for about a 1000 more, he could have gotten a b16 swap done, if he knew how to shop. O0

lol if i knew how to shop ;D i pretty much guarantee no one can beat what i paid for the internals i got...no ebay straight from manufacturer ;D

T0DA 11-21-2007 09:05 PM

Re: DSM turbo on H series...
 
I might actually go with a similiar setup, free dsm mani and going to see how much a local wants for his turbo td04l, maybe try a 16g if theres one for cheap. Something with low boost and a small ass snail that won't hurt my new stock clutch too quickly. (There was no way out of that. :-[ )

bitchasscracker 11-23-2007 12:41 PM

Re: DSM turbo on H series...
 
the 14b will support 230 hp so would be good for a h23 that has 160 but bad for a h22 that already has 200

T0DA 11-23-2007 12:47 PM

Re: DSM turbo on H series...
 
Yep that's what I'm deciding to go with. 8)

bitchasscracker 11-23-2007 03:20 PM

Re: DSM turbo on H series...
 

Originally Posted by T0DA
Yep that's what I'm deciding to go with. 8)


good choice


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