doubling up head gaskets....your opinion...or experiances
 

so my 3 cylinder honda is starting to annoy me, thinkin i should fix it. so monday i will be tearing it apart, agian, to replace the piston. gonna have to buy another headgasket, or ---- it and not, but if i buy another one why the ---- dont i just slap it on top of the other one? that way it will lower my compression and maybe this wont happen again...for a while ::)

the headgaskets are MLS (multi-layer steel) gaskets, not composite type. now with composite gaskets i can see why i shouldnt, but with MLS they are already muliti-layer (duh) so why the ---- shouldnt i do it?


you thoughts, or experiance?

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sounds like a ton of agrivation when you fire it up and it leaks like swiss cheese.. umm if your so concerned about it blowing...lower the boost??/

ps* your a -----...

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with two headgaskets or blow headgasket?


want to lower the compression so i can run more boost, safely...its my only car that drives at the moment (and doesnt do that every well)... figure that it would lower my compression from ~9.5:1 to ~8.9:1....


also planning on doing this to my VW GTI. infact thats what they tell people to do to make 200hp+ to the wheels...

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I wouldn’t stack them, a friend tried on a LS and it didn’t work :-\. Why not just buy a Cometic Head gasket? Dose you motor burn oil? that would help it blow up all the time ;).
steve

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9.1 is a fine compression if you tune it.

If you want thickness then go with the cometic. I wouldn't suggest stacking them .

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who said anythign about 9:1?

isnt the cometic gasket the copper one? i always hear problems about them leaking and ----.

im sure it burns oil with a 90psi of compression on #1...the turbo also leaks oil out the exhaust side...

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I dont think cometic gaskets are copper? they look just like OEM Honda ones ???.
steve

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well then it would be basicly a stacked stock headgasket then wouldnt it??

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just stack the Honda one then ;). Just call Cometic and ask them your questions :P.

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Stacking multi layer steel head gaskets is frequently done with Peugeot engines. Works like a charm. I'm running a 2.0 16v engine with two headgaskets and a homemade spacer plate, no problems at all. Also have a 1.6 16v engine with two headgasktes (no spacer plate), haven't completed that setup yet, but i'm sure it will work fine.

Just go for it.. I mean.. DO it... DO it

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STFU dutch pug. peugeots aren't hondas. you don't stack up headgaskets period! he needs a thick commetic gasket and that's it. hondas may have even higher compression that a peugeot, especialy if the peugoat came boosted oem. :-*

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Stuff it Nordape,

The compression on the above mentioned Peugeot engines are 10.4:1 and 11.0:1, and they are not factory boosted :-*.

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so on a peugeout you just stack up oem head gaskets and it works? that won't work on a honda.

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Well, if I had the money, I would buy a nice set of pistons and rods... am saving for a set, but... I'm a bad saver :-\

Anyway, if it works on my engines, doubt it will fail on Honda's, then again... mine are closed deck.

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I've always wanted to do this. I know that to do it right you need to rivet them together. However, there's probably something special you gotta do to them to make them work right. Give it a try and see how it works.


I have a MLS head gasket and its nothing like the stock headgasket. The "thick layers" are made of some different material than what the stock gaskets are made out of. And there's also a certain stacking sequence you have to follow. I'm going home next week so I can find out more about it cause I forget all the details of it.



Also, I do have extra "stacks" for the gasket. If you can get it to work by sandwiching inbetween the stock gasket material you can have it

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has anybody that says it wont work actually tried it if not stfu just because somebody on hondatech said its bad doesnt mean it wont work. i say give it a shot then you'll know for your self.

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maybe copper spray between them to help them bond together?

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i had a mr gasket mls with the spacer plates that you riveted... it ------- sucks.. it leaked..

i used a felpro had no probs.. i cant see 2 hg working properly.. cometic gaskets are mls and thick so i say go the safe way and do that

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Theres a guy here runnign 2 honda headgaskets in a turbo gsr and runs 11s.

www.littlevtec.com is his site, try and email him ask him how it worked out?

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my thoughts exactly...well i just dont want to buy pistons right now, i have another porject that i want to finish first.

like i said before, the VW guys are telling me to do this on my 2.0L 8v motor that i will be putting in my GTI. its common practice. they are running shiloads of boost on this setup. and factory compression is like 9.4:1 (about what im at right now) and they use MLS gaskets also. the only reall diff is that they run iron closed deck blocks...

anyway....---- it im abouy 98% sure that i will be doing this, one used headgasket (replaced a month or so ago) and a new one i will be pickin up today...both Felpro MLS gaskets...

oh i have also heard of this ---- Neon guys use to spray on there gaskets for better sealing, i will be trying to pick some of this ---- up too...or just some copper spray...

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VW guys do it all the time with both MLS and comp gaskets. Pretty common ---- really. The 2L 16v is 11:1 so you have to do something about it. I've seen people make over 300 on stacked gaskets. A little copper spray might help.

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I've done this on composite gaskets. It works but it is nowhere near as strong as a single gasket.

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TURBOHF...in case you didnt know, you can get cometic head gaskets that are thicker than stock. So instead of doubling up your stock head gaskets you can guy one cometic that is thicker than your stock giving you the same results as doubling up your stock gasket this is just safer.

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Cometic is expensive...I think that's why he wants to try doubling the gasket.
This is HMT...not everyone has the money to buy some Cometic

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corret this isnt Honda-Tech...

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My friend has stacked stock gaskets a few times with success. Held 15 psi from a t25 on a d16a6. Cracked ring lands before he blew the hg. So yes it does work on hondas.

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there we go, real world experance....15psi on a T25? thats not good...

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Are you trying to be a smart ass? I don't remember saying it was good. You asked for thoughts or experiences

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dont get all excited... thanks fo your input, its nice to know someone else has done this...

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I don't think he's trying to be a smartass. The 15psi on a T25 is not good, your real world experience is good. ;)

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::shakes head::

Come on dustin, if I can tune a 11.3c/r ls/vtec without popping a head gasket you should be fine with a brand new stock head gasket.

It may work, but I dont think its neccasary.

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DON'T DO IT! Save some headache man don't cause any more LOL!

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thanks for your first hand expericance... ::)


btw i DID NOT stack the headgaskets...