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SkunT 07-24-2008 11:08 AM

cost of putting together a motor
 
Just running through a few things, looking my 'parts list' over before I start buying ----, does this look about right? Plan is to build a D16Z6 with the vitara/rod combo shoot for 350-400hp. Not doing another HF manifold/sidemount set-up.

block 50
FJ rebuild kit 300
FJ rods 322
engine cleaning/honing/etc 150
Manifold 400
turbo 400
WG 100
oil line 85
intercooler 100
bov 85
down pipe 100
exhaust 150
clutch 200
cam gear 100
misc ---- 200

not gonna do this without putting in a LSD
300+ install fees

total, I am looking at about $3000-
this is buying new stuff, and rounded off prices. Of course a few things could change here and there, but is this a rough estimate for a GOOD build with a new motor?

HMTguy 07-24-2008 11:19 AM

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Yes it's good. Spend a little bit more on the clutch, say at least $250

Hitchhikkr 07-24-2008 12:12 PM

Re: cost of putting together a motor
 

Originally Posted by jagojon3
Yes it's good. Spend a little bit more on the clutch, say at least $250

+1

Also, id avoid the cdm wastegates, ive seen nothing but fail from them. Find a good used one for the win, if you wernt planning that already.
I found a sweet old school turbonetics delta gate for $70. :6

SkunT 07-24-2008 12:18 PM

Re: cost of putting together a motor
 
yeah, I might have to rethink this option. :-\

BoostedBSeries 07-24-2008 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitchhikkr
+1

Also, id avoid the cdm wastegates, ive seen nothing but fail from them. Find a good used one for the win, if you wernt planning that already.
I found a sweet old school turbonetics delta gate for $70. :6

you mean the deltacreep? you're a ------- retard. i've used a bunch of the ebay wastegates, they work fine. just take them apart and make sure they are together correctly, just like EVERY other china part.

SkunT 07-24-2008 12:45 PM

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Lets not get into the china debate ----. Everything in this ------- country with the exception of beer is made in china.


HMTguy 07-24-2008 12:56 PM

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https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3193...baeb40.jpg?v=0

bigdaddyvtec 07-24-2008 01:04 PM

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LOL

Hitchhikkr 07-24-2008 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by I Have An STD
you mean the deltacreep? you're a ------- retard. i've used a bunch of the ebay wastegates, they work fine. just take them apart and make sure they are together correctly, just like EVERY other china part.

::)

Ive had the exact opposite experience from what you just stated. To each their own I suppose.

ghettoturbo 07-24-2008 01:23 PM

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putting it together yourself?

SkunT 07-24-2008 01:29 PM

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yes

sloTeg 07-24-2008 02:53 PM

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are you going with 0.20 over vitara's? if you are i would expect machine work to be a little more than $150. i think i paid about $400 to have my z6 block bored 0.20, honed, decked and hot tanked. then again it all depends on what your local shop charges.

SkunT 07-24-2008 03:07 PM

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I can have it done on base, very cheap.

Guy-Fast 07-24-2008 06:49 PM

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real clutches are 300+



I bought a twin disc to ---- the bull ----

SkunT 07-24-2008 11:28 PM

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ive never ran anything other than a f1 spec ebay clutch and never had any problems. for whatever I end up doing, building a turbo motor or putting together my motor from okinawa, it will be another ebay clutch

seerex 07-25-2008 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by junkyard racer
yes

Here are a few vids on a obx install, keep in mind this is on a b-series;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXG4YecAaaQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avTFNUnFxEg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2Wlws5O1go

Tom-Guy 07-25-2008 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by I Have An STD
you mean the deltacreep? you're a ------- retard.

It got that name because it was sold on the original Drag kits, whose manifold exit was the real cause of the creep. Also, it was commonly touted most Deltagates didn't creep until you opened them up to change springs, which translates to a bunch of young riceboys pinched the diaphragm during reassembly because they were ------- fools. It's probably the first bandwagon, and is the reason TiAL is so successful today.... when TiAL first came out nobody knew anything about them, they just knew they weren't going to run a deltagate.

BTW, you're the retard :1

seerex 07-25-2008 02:02 PM

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Cdm wastegate for $50; http://app.infopia.com/Shop/Control/...id/0/SFV/31982

Guy-Fast 07-27-2008 06:28 AM

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Your drive like a little girl then if you your not breaking those spray painted ebay oem pressure plates.

SpankedYA! 07-27-2008 08:45 AM

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I had an Ebay clutch, 6 puck, in my CRX and a stage II fiber type in my 4 door Civic. Both slipped early on. I will never make that mistake again.

needahonda 07-27-2008 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by junkyard racer
misc ---- 200

better make it 800 :-X

1991civicsi 07-27-2008 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by chris
real clutches are 300+



I bought a twin disc to ---- the bull ----

I couldn't find a "d" series twin disc.

Guy-Fast 07-27-2008 09:58 PM

Re: cost of putting together a motor
 

Originally Posted by 1991civicsi
I couldn't find a "d" series twin disc.

maybe clutchmasters

EG-prince 07-27-2008 10:41 PM

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install the lsd yourself. if you can build a motor yourself, you can definitely intall an lsd

Scott-EP 07-27-2008 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by crxvtec91

yea, but with $15 shipping. spend $5 more and buy from me, a site supporter

Guy-Fast 07-27-2008 11:15 PM

Re: cost of putting together a motor
 

Originally Posted by 1991civicsi
I couldn't find a "d" series twin disc.




I was just off the phone with a buddy of mine. He swore alot of the old school 10 sec guys were running these clutches



http://www.ramclutches.com/Products/revolution.htm


Dont quote me though

Guy-Fast 07-27-2008 11:19 PM

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http://www.importperformanceparts.ne...evolution.html

1991civicsi 07-28-2008 12:35 AM

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:o

Guy-Fast 07-28-2008 06:56 PM

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Got off the phone with head engineer at ram clutches. He said that they stopped with the development of that clutch due to lack of desire from the market. I may try to find one and have my machinist build them since he seemed pretty much turned off from the import world.

juli0_bustamante 07-28-2008 08:37 PM

Re: cost of putting together a motor
 
i cant remember off the back of my head whaty i spent on my build but i have to say the most important part was the machine work
I went with 76mm vitaras and used Hbeams from ebay. Its held up fine so far. I dont beat on it but it sure drives fine with only 240hp so far. My goal is to reach 300 so when i have time and more money i will up the boost and get some bigger injectors.

Im running the Ching chong waste gate and it holds 17 psi steay with a MBC i have. Turbo is also ching chong aswell as the manifold.

I love orange chicken so i support its CDM parts aswell. Holler!


Originally Posted by chris
Got off the phone with head engineer at ram clutches. He said that they stopped with the development of that clutch due to lack of desire from the market. I may try to find one and have my machinist build them since he seemed pretty much turned off from the import world.


yamaha6611 07-29-2008 02:37 AM

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dont forget all the other crap, 2 bar map, fuel injectors, fuel pump, tune. my budget d series went from 10psi on a 14b to 17psi on a 16g with a completely rebuilt motor...

SpeedyJAY 07-29-2008 02:56 AM

Re: cost of putting together a motor
 
While you have it apart might as well add a

Water Pump
Oil Pump

You probably meant that under *misc ----....which should also include every gasket and seal new

zestyskater69 07-29-2008 03:55 AM

Re: cost of putting together a motor
 

Originally Posted by SpeedyJAY
While you have it apart might as well add a

Water Pump
Oil Pump

You probably meant that under *misc ----....which should also include every gasket and seal new

Gaskets are included with the fjt kit

Guy-Fast 07-29-2008 04:31 AM

Re: cost of putting together a motor
 
misc:



blown motor
3 broken d series transmission
5 ebay painted clutches

juli0_bustamante 07-29-2008 08:55 PM

Re: cost of putting together a motor
 

Originally Posted by chris
misc:



blown motor
3 broken d series transmission
5 ebay painted clutches
and 3 orders of orange chiken

fixed!


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