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Turbo90Accord4DR 02-09-2004 05:09 AM

Re:Check valves = boost leak?
 

Originally Posted by -Turbo Z24 Guy-
what about this idea? just drew up a quick diagram...
http://www.shownglow.com/2-cv-idea.bmp


won't work, i have tried it, you just have to do it the normal way and get over your ideas.

Zeusfire69 02-09-2004 04:24 PM

Re:Check valves = boost leak?
 
I've tried it too, it doesn't work. Having the check valve in line won't let the map sensor read properly..

turbo z24 guy 02-09-2004 08:46 PM

Re:Check valves = boost leak?
 
damnit!!!! in thinkin bout maybe crimping down the line goin to the map a lil so not as much boost can get to it/ecsape with the check valves... not that its really hurting performance, but i dont wanna lose even 1 cfm if poss. hmm...

illusionsir 02-09-2004 10:06 PM

Re:Check valves = boost leak?
 
i dont see how you would be loosing boost with a check valve. its a one way valve (as mentioned) that only bleeds positive air pressure, NOT vacuum. if the check valve was placed right before the map sensor (most times you need more than one) you shouldnt be loosing any pressure going into the Throttle body. all thats doing is just stopping the map from reading positive air pressure, if your map is still seeing boost with a check valve, you either hooked it up wrong or its faulty. im not sure what kind of check valves your using, but i've personally found that fish tank valves work the best.

LSD Motorsports 02-09-2004 10:26 PM

Re:Check valves = boost leak?
 

Originally Posted by illusionsir
i dont see how you would be loosing boost with a check valve. its a one way valve (as mentioned) that only bleeds positive air pressure, NOT vacuum. if the check valve was placed right before the map sensor (most times you need more than one) you shouldnt be loosing any pressure going into the Throttle body. all thats doing is just stopping the map from reading positive air pressure, if your map is still seeing boost with a check valve, you either hooked it up wrong or its faulty. im not sure what kind of check valves your using, but i've personally found that fish tank valves work the best.

88 turbo crx: Nods in agreement

superpilun 02-10-2004 02:23 AM

Re:Check valves = boost leak?
 
i've tried the method shown in that picture and it doesn't work ('99 corolla stock map sensor). it'll idle for about 30sec and die on it's own. if you give it any gas it'll also die. used in a config. where they actually just bleed boost, it works but YES you're bleeding a little bit of boost so you might get a bit of lag.

turbo z24 guy 02-10-2004 01:44 PM

Re:Check valves = boost leak?
 

Originally Posted by illusionsir
i dont see how you would be loosing boost with a check valve. its a one way valve (as mentioned) that only bleeds positive air pressure, NOT vacuum. if the check valve was placed right before the map sensor (most times you need more than one) you shouldnt be loosing any pressure going into the Throttle body. all thats doing is just stopping the map from reading positive air pressure, if your map is still seeing boost with a check valve, you either hooked it up wrong or its faulty. im not sure what kind of check valves your using, but i've personally found that fish tank valves work the best.

you lose boost (very little, but still) because they dont work inline...they have to be hooked up so then vent pressure off and away from the map...so basicly its venting pressure from the map sensor line to the atmosphere.

illusionsir 02-10-2004 05:32 PM

Re:Check valves = boost leak?
 

Originally Posted by -Turbo Z24 Guy-

Originally Posted by illusionsir
i dont see how you would be loosing boost with a check valve. its a one way valve (as mentioned) that only bleeds positive air pressure, NOT vacuum. if the check valve was placed right before the map sensor (most times you need more than one) you shouldnt be loosing any pressure going into the Throttle body. all thats doing is just stopping the map from reading positive air pressure, if your map is still seeing boost with a check valve, you either hooked it up wrong or its faulty. im not sure what kind of check valves your using, but i've personally found that fish tank valves work the best.

you lose boost (very little, but still) because they dont work inline...they have to be hooked up so then vent pressure off and away from the map...so basicly its venting pressure from the map sensor line to the atmosphere.

ya thats the point of the check valves. any boost in the vacuum lines is unused. justbecause its venting before your map doesnt mean your not going to see full boost. the only boost that matters, is the boost running through your charge pipe into your intake manifold and then into your cylinders!

turbo z24 guy 02-10-2004 10:05 PM

Re:Check valves = boost leak?
 
but the map is before the cyl's, so therefore any boost being vented at all will be taken away from going into the cyl's. the amount might be minimal as all hell, but still.

superpilun 02-11-2004 12:41 AM

Re:Check valves = boost leak?
 
anyone have experience with the missing link? any good?


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