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gon3r 03-23-2005 12:20 PM

charge piping size
 
what are the advantages/disadvantages of going with a larger or smaller charge piping size. i'd like to go 2.5" but was thinking with my 67mm tb it might be better to go 3". i'm thinking there might be more lag with a larger diameter because it would take the compressor longer to fill that extra volume. any thoughts are appreciated.

91dxcrx 03-23-2005 01:01 PM

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My friend is using 3" charge piping from the turbo to the intercooler we'll see how that works out. I would've just stuck with 2.5" but i would like to know for sure as well

djfob 03-23-2005 01:16 PM

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I would stick with a 2.5..........a 3 imo will cause unneccesary pressure drop

J-MAN 03-23-2005 01:27 PM

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what is the 67mm closer to? i would go with which ever is closer to the size of your TB. i have always used 2.5" just because it connects to my TB pretty evenly

juli0_bustamante 03-23-2005 03:06 PM

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i think the amount of pressure drop would be significant.

i have charge pipes that measure 2" going from the turbo to the IC and then from the IC to the turbo and is 2.5 and i felt the change when it was all 2" all the way through.


Speedracer32 03-23-2005 04:10 PM

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3in piping is usually used on cars/engines putting out big numbers like
supras and stuff. I dont think hondas should go higher than 2.5.
2.75 with internal mods
stock 1.5/1.6 ---2.25 diameter. Less volume to fill and pressure will build up faster for boost. my $.02

91civicZ6 03-23-2005 04:19 PM

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a local shop owner built an EG hatch with LS turbo running 28psi.... made 525whp

his charge piping is all 2.25"

Speedracer32 03-23-2005 04:27 PM

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^^^
that was post 666 for you buddy :-X :P

SmokeShank 03-23-2005 06:45 PM

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aaron,

slowmotion here (company im doing some things for) puts down 521whp on their integra, and it has 2.5" piping. all their other 400+whp cars are on 2.5" as well.

the only 3" piping ive seen around here in person are the big boys, supras/rx7, and theres one 2g DSM with 3" piping, but it is a 10second car.

gon3r 03-24-2005 01:47 AM

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i think i may go with 2.75" that puts it at just under 70mm, so 3mm larger than the butterfly valve. otherwise i think it'd be a waste to use the 67mm tb without the flow to match it. it isn't easy to find aluminum mandrel bends. :P

thanks for the input guys.

Reddy 03-24-2005 04:40 AM

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I would never go over 2.5 for charge piping. In most cases 2.5 is too big for most applications

Xgenturbo 03-24-2005 07:51 AM

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Mine is gonna be 2" ID

projekteg 03-24-2005 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Whitey
I would never go over 2.5 for charge piping. In most cases 2.5 is too big for most applications

werd. it's not going to benefit you to have larger pipes just to be closer to the actual t.b. size. you will still benefit from the larger bore t.b. simply for the fact that it will allow more air in and faster, so no need to try to match the size.

shadetree 03-24-2005 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by weirRacing
it isn't easy to find aluminum mandrel bends. :P

http://www.burnsstainless.com/Alumin...minumtube.html
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/mandrelbends.htm

95RedEX 03-24-2005 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffsciv23
what is the 67mm closer to? i would go with which ever is closer to the size of your TB. i have always used 2.5" just because it connects to my TB pretty evenly

To convert metric to english, divide it by 25.4 67mm is like 2-5/8"...

I didn't put much thought into my setups. My turbo was 2" and my side mount was 2", so I went with 2". My TB is 2-1/2" so I added a reducer after my IC and converted to 2-1/2"

But now my FMIC is 2-1/2" and my TB is 2-1/2" but my turbo is still 2", so I added a reducer right after the turbo and went 2-1/2" throughout. I have yet to really drive it, so I don't know how much better or worse it will be.

88b16civic 03-24-2005 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by djfob
I would stick with a 2.5..........a 3 imo will cause unneccesary pressure drop

The only reason to go bigger NA or boosted is to lessen the presure drop in the pipes. Pipe friction which causes pressure drop is related to the velocity in the pipe. The bigger the pipe the slower the charge has to move through it for the same volume flow.

This might get you thinking that bigger is always better...not true...The charge pipes have a bigger volume to fill when the pressure rises (LAG) and if you have to reduce for the TB then thats a big pressure drop in reducing neglecting what you got with the bigger pipes.

One sentence answer...Match the size of the charge pipes to the TB.


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