Car can't go past 80km after installing turbo
 

Hi all,

Please help me.. I hope I don't get flame for nothing.

I just installed my turbo kit on my car (Kia spectra) and after installing the turbo, when I try to hit hard boost, the car will not go past 80km. I have not done any tunning and also I'm still running the stock map sensor.

Is it because of the map sensor hence this problem? please do advise.

thank you all!

in more accurate information.. when i reach about 80km, my rpm will be about 2500 which is when the turbo will start to create boost.

So is it because of i'm running a stock map sensor hence i cannot make about boost?

please advise.

thanks!

First problem.

here is your problem your going into limp mode

thank you. sorting out the tunning soon. did not factor enough buget for tunning so need to save up again.

Also im trying to source for a map sensor.

thanks all..

Hi peeps.. one more question. My turbo was just installed and when I first started the car up when the turbo was installed, white smoke started to smoke from the exhaust. Every since the first start, its been smoking white smoke. Is this normal for a newly setup turbo setup?

thanks!

Google RTM racing and he sells 3bar map sensors, -which I assume you need- for $80!

good luck with your turbo-ing, I have always wanted to boost a first gen kia rio since my dad had one a while ago.

I'm now having problem with white smoke issue. And this happen straight after installing the turbo kit (first turn of the key, it started smoking and it hasn't stopped)

1) Oil isn't milky
2) Coolant isn't low or losing water

BUT

1) I can smell some kind of oil burnt smell when I pop my engine hood

Any help would be great!

Cheers!

bar map it and you could run 92634876 PSI!!!

well a turbo kia is definetly a sleeper but anyway, with what you've stated i'd assume that its not the headgasket.....are your running any kind of catch can, what condition are the seals on the turbo in? i only ask because if it's blowing oil through the intake tract it will produce the smoke that you've described. (check for it in your charge pipes) I'd start there............. good luck!

my intercooler piping that is connected to the turbo seems to have an oily touch to it. it was so oily that the hose connecting to the intercooler pipe even manage to slip off.

Does it mean that my turbo is leaking oil? I have checked the blade and shaft and there isn't any oil. No shaft play too.

BTW, I'm not running any oil catch can thou.

Thanks!

yeah turbo is liking oil

are you using an oil restrictor on the turbo? if you are and it is smoking, then the turbo is bad. if you arent using one, get one on there quick before you ruin the turbo

i would hope that the shop I took my car to install the turbo kit did use an oil restrictor. Also, will a oil return line (to the oil pan) that looks too long cause white smoke too?

I'm getting a replacement turbo but I don't wish to waste my money knowing that it isn't a turbo fault but an installation fault.

I just hate dodgy mechs!

if it was a new turbo kit, it probably came with a restrictor. if you want tpost a pic where the oil feed line goes into the turbo, i can tell you if there is one or not.

the oil line being too long isnt really an issue, as long as its not kinked. post a pic of that too

Hi all,

thanks for all your valuable feedback. I think (FINGERS CROSSED) i managed to stop the smoking problem.. I really do hope so although I didn't drive the car around yet. Only started it up, rev it alittle with no white smoke. What i did was I shorten the oil feed and return line and made sure it was a straight line instead of a kinked line.

But i have one concern. I notice that my oil return is very close to my turbo down pipe and I fear that the heat from the down pipe might melt the oil return line. I did wrap my down pipe with some thermal wrap to reduce the heat but should it be enough? the space between the oil return line and the down pipe is about 1 finger spacing. Oh and im using those normal rubber oil lines, not the metal type lines.

Please do advise.

Thanks!

keep an eye on it. if its an oil line and not just heater hose, it should be fine but i would watch it for a week or so

You've answered your own question here; what you've done with the wrap should be considered a temporary fix until you can purchase a steel braided return line. Why chance it and possibly create a huge mess when you can resolve this and forget about it.... steel lines can be found fairly cheap on tuner toys or ebay..... do it ONCE do it RIGHT. good luck

thanks guys!! hope i can get this sorted out soon.

Can't wait to test drive the car.. :p

hi guys, another problem here..

I just got a new 2.5 bar map sensor and after installing the new map sensor, car won't start. It can crank but it won't start. Revert back to the stock map sensor, car started like a gem.

What could the problem be? Must I do anything special when replacing a map sensor or is the new map sensor not working?

please do advise.

thanks!

the ecu has to be setup to run a different map sensor. since its a kia, i really have no idea what to tell you. i dont know what the kia guys are doing for engine management. you cant just run a turbo on a non turbo car without doing some tuning though. no amount of bolting parts on will make it run right

well, i guess my tuner which I paid for is CRAP!! He's been giving me loads of bullSH!T excuses.. but hey, can't argue much since I don't really know anything about tunning..

Installed the new map sensor again, called the tuner over.. he tried to tune but in the end he said cannot tune.. been giving me lots of excuses..

In the end, kind of regret turboing my car... no joy at all..

you can always try to do a missing link and fmu thing although i dont think they make a missing link for kias. there are a few turbo kias on kia forums why dont you go there and ask for some help getting everything to work right. just browse and see what they are doing to their cars for engine management

you cant just "tune" a car. normally, something needs to be modified or changed for programming. sounds like that guy is just taking your money.

just get this and an FMU for now. at least then you can drive your car

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thanks guys!!!

I agree that he's taking me for a ride but I have already paid the mofo so I guess I have to put up with him..

Anyway, I thought I have fixed the smoking problem but it seems I was wrong. White smoke appears after the car warms up.. I have done a careful check on all pipings again (after cleaning up the pipes previously) and no sign of any oil. Even my BOV is dry as a MOFO.. So could this be the turbo seals or should I wait for my car to be completely tune before conluding anything.

Thanks guys!

dont justr blame the turbo maybe something is internally wrong with the engine especially if you have been driving with out a tune

A bad tune+stock head bolts, could = head lifting.

How is your coolant level. White smoke is usually water, not oil.

coolant level is perfectly fine. turbo im currently using is an oil cool turbo, no coolant running to it so i doubt it would be coolant problem.

anyway, changing out the turbo next week.. hopefully i can cure the white smoke. Also, planning to get a new tuner.. lets just say the previous money paid to the fucked up tuner is a lesson learnt.

i wasnt saying that the turbo was leaking coolant. i was saying a shitty tune with stock head bolts could have allowed the head to lift and now coolant is being burnt by the cylinders.

odds are that didnt happen, but it is possible. have you tried to really push the car hard since installing the turbo?

oh, i see i see.. sorry for the misunderstanding.

Well, No i didn't push the car since I installed the turbo kit. Only time I did was when the tuner was "trying" to tune the car.

As for the coolant, after driving with the smoking rear.. I will always check my coolant level and i'm not losing any coolant. Also, no sign of milky oil..

:)

Check out Corky Bells "Maximum Boost". It's an older book, but there is lots of useful knowledge in there. I Googled Kia Rio turbo kit and got quite a few hits, check here:
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