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cannizzo-racing1990 03-18-2007 01:07 PM

>> CAM. VS. TURBOCAMS <<
 
hey someone please help me with these damn questions......i am turboing a zc and i was wondering is it better to use stock zc cams or use another type of cam....also i have these regrinds from ebay someone made them i think they are for a N/A.. they claim to be stage 2 i was wondering if anyone knew anything about these cams and if they were ---- or the real thing... also if they are shity what would be the best cam to use

kablammyman 03-18-2007 02:56 PM

Re: >> CAM. VS. TURBO <<
 

Originally Posted by cannizzo-racing1990
hey someone please help me with these damn questions......i am turboing a zc and i was wondering is it better to use stock zc cams or use another type of cam....also i have these regrinds from ebay someone made them i think they are for a N/A they claim to be stage 2 i was wondering if anyone knew anything about these cams and if they were ---- or the real thing...

stock. N/A cams sux for boost becasue turbos dont like overlap, which is what N/A cams try to accomplish...lots over overlap.

If you have a dual cam ZC, browntop d16a1 cams MIGHT work even better since they are the mildest cams avilable for any DOHC ZC.

cannizzo-racing1990 03-18-2007 03:30 PM

Re: >> CAM. VS. TURBO <<
 
the regrinded cams i have have a steep slope and a steep drop..( ^ ) like that.... my stock cams have a gradual slope and a gradual drop.... ( n ) like that sorry for the poor description...so that means my stock cams would keep the valve open for longer.. which would be bad ...and the regrinded ones would just open and close the valve real quick ...which would be better...right

Atticus 03-19-2007 12:04 AM

Re: >> CAM. VS. TURBO <<
 
its not just about shape but position
just cuz it looks like (^) and not (n) dosent mean that the (^) are positioned to give over lap

Constant C 03-19-2007 04:10 AM

Re: >> CAM. VS. TURBO <<
 
Where can i research turbo cams, up till this post i was lead to believe it is too difficult to recreate a better than stock cam for turbo application...

Hence most people stay Away etc......

kablammyman 03-19-2007 01:03 PM

Re: >> CAM. VS. TURBO <<
 

Originally Posted by Constant C
Where can i research turbo cams, up till this post i was lead to believe it is too difficult to recreate a better than stock cam for turbo application...

Hence most people stay Away etc......

in most cases its true that stock cams are best for boost.

SDRAWKCAB 03-19-2007 01:24 PM

Re: >> CAM. VS. TURBO <<
 
WOW
More aggressive the cam the more hhhoorrrsssaaa powa (said in a chinese voice)
cams are a good thing.
stock cams=POO :-X

rudebwoy 03-19-2007 02:12 PM

Re: >> CAM. VS. TURBO <<
 
from what I've experienced and also read. running an aggressive N/A cam creates more power than so called turbo cams.
the only thing about the n/a cams on a turbo car is that it moves your power band higher. I am using skunk 2 cams, and it feels like I gain most of my power from 7000rpm to 9600rpms. even though I have power throughout the whole range it feels really wicked in those ranges. when I used crower turbo cams, I had egual power throughout the whole rpm range.
when I used gsr cams they felt worst than the stock b16 cams.
I dont have access to a dyno so all these tests are street tests. on the ass dyno.

kablammyman 03-19-2007 07:21 PM

Re: >> CAM. VS. TURBO <<
 

Originally Posted by rudebwoy
from what I've experienced and also read. running an aggressive N/A cam creates more power than so called turbo cams.
the only thing about the n/a cams on a turbo car is that it moves your power band higher. I am using skunk 2 cams, and it feels like I gain most of my power from 7000rpm to 9600rpms. even though I have power throughout the whole range it feels really wicked in those ranges. when I used crower turbo cams, I had egual power throughout the whole rpm range.
when I used gsr cams they felt worst than the stock b16 cams.
I dont have access to a dyno so all these tests are street tests. on the ass dyno.

seems like we are reading VERY different books. Every book i read regarding turbo charging advocates for stock cams, and say how bad N/A cams are for boosted applications.


SDRAWKCAB 03-19-2007 08:16 PM

Re: >> CAM. VS. TURBO <<
 
You obviously know what your talking about ::)
there are cams made for turbo, supercharged and nitrous applications.
and they make a big diff
as for using n/a cams for a boosted app
thats like using 4/10 gears in a camaro for diving on the high way.
THAT DOSE NOT MAKE SENSE! :S

kablammyman 03-20-2007 01:44 AM

Re: >> CAM. VS. TURBO <<
 

Originally Posted by SDRAWKCAB
You obviously know what your talking about ::)
there are cams made for turbo, supercharged and nitrous applications.
and they make a big diff
as for using n/a cams for a boosted app
thats like using 4/10 gears in a camaro for diving on the high way.
THAT DOSE NOT MAKE SENSE! :S

whos talking about turbo cams? the OP asked about N/A cams.

SDRAWKCAB 03-20-2007 12:25 PM

Re: >> CAM. VS. TURBO <<
 

Originally Posted by kablammyman
whos talking about turbo cams? the OP asked about N/A cams.

The OP was called turbo cams. O0
People that annoy you N_GGERS

the 13th round 03-22-2007 12:47 PM

Re: >> CAM. VS. TURBOCAMS <<
 
what about a 272 delta regrind in an a6?
cuz thats whats in my build right now, i changed my mind and went turbo half way through the build.
is that going to be bad? i was always under the impression stock cams suck.

Oscar 03-23-2007 11:57 AM

Re: >> CAM. VS. TURBOCAMS <<
 
some over lap is good.

a 272 is a great cam. works great with boost.

the 13th round 03-23-2007 12:49 PM

Re: >> CAM. VS. TURBOCAMS <<
 
thats what i figured

HiProfile 03-26-2007 12:38 AM

Re: >> CAM. VS. TURBOCAMS <<
 
In general, turbo cams (high lift, low duration) work tits for turbo apps. But with hondas, cams with high lift also work tits. ITR cams make much more than stock b16/gsr cams, regardless of boost pressure. But really we're talking about stock vs. almost any cam that wasn't intended for FI on a honda. The fact is high lift, high duration cams on turbo hondas will still make more power over stock. They also seem to show some extra gains from dialing out overlap with cam gears, but sometimes (rarely) the dyno suggests otherwise.

I highly doubt that book you're reading covers FI hondas in specific. I think I've also read in a book promiscuous sex will lead to getting multiple STD's and 8% chance of knocking the girl up. So far I've beat the odds 100%, so we can assume books aren't alway FTW... :1

kablammyman 03-26-2007 12:40 AM

Re: >> CAM. VS. TURBOCAMS <<
 

Originally Posted by HiProfile
In general, turbo cams (high lift, low duration) work tits for turbo apps. But with hondas, cams with high lift also work tits. ITR cams make much more than stock b16/gsr cams, regardless of boost pressure. But really we're talking about stock vs. almost any cam that wasn't intended for FI on a honda. The fact is high lift, high duration cams on turbo hondas will still make more power over stock. They also seem to show some extra gains from dialing out overlap with cam gears, but sometimes (rarely) the dyno suggests otherwise.

I highly doubt that book you're reading covers FI hondas in specific. I think I've also read in a book promiscuous sex will lead to getting multiple STD's and 8% chance of knocking the girl up. So far I've beat the odds 100%, so we can assume books aren't alway FTW... :1

hahhahaa, good point

Well, i guess this is one of those times that aucutal expirence > theory. I learned something new. O0


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