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NuTuner 04-30-2006 09:48 PM

Built for Boost
 
So i know that alot of car manufacturers over engineer their engines to ensure that they last a while. But what are some engines you guys know of that come stock NA and are just ASKING to be put to atleast 10psi ? Is there any stock engines that will handle 10psi every day or would that pressure require modifications ? Thanks in advance for the help.

Also, I know that factory turbo engines are usually pretty mild. How would a factory turbo setup handle a serious turbo application (ie 10-15psi) ?

91efate 04-30-2006 09:56 PM

Re: Built for Boost
 
90-94 nissan sentra se-r motor of a tank, will handle alot of power with no mods.

JDMFantasy2K 04-30-2006 10:28 PM

Re: Built for Boost
 
anything that comes turbo'd is usually pretty strong.

Integra Ls' seem to be reasonably strong. 15 psi worth i'm not too sure. But remember power kills motors, not boost.

i personally like the 2.2 motors from the toyota camry and celica. Friend of mine had one in his celica going strong at 13 #'s of boost and had like 220 whp from it daily :6

boosted_b16 05-01-2006 12:57 PM

Re: Built for Boost
 


Also, I know that factory turbo engines are usually pretty mild. How would a factory turbo setup handle a serious turbo application (ie 10-15psi) ?
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I ran 22 psi on a HRC super 20G turbo on the stock bottom end of my talon with no problems at all...

xternal 05-01-2006 03:26 PM

Re: Built for Boost
 

Originally Posted by boosted_b16

Also, I know that factory turbo engines are usually pretty mild. How would a factory turbo setup handle a serious turbo application (ie 10-15psi) ?


I ran 22 psi on a HRC super 20G turbo on the stock bottom end of my talon with no problems at all...

Good engine management and a tune on the dyno , mainly

SiTurboD 05-09-2006 08:34 AM

Re: Built for Boost
 
my 97 hatch.. y7 10lbs with a T25. over a year now. 178K miles on it

Darkelvis 05-09-2006 11:48 AM

Re: Built for Boost
 
there are guys running 500+ hp on the toyota 2jz engine (non turbo) with only an upgraded head gasket and head studs.

dastinker8 05-09-2006 12:40 PM

Re: Built for Boost
 
those stock blocks that come in cars arent really ment for boost that you guys listed.. i mean cmon look at the rods in the ls... three dinky..i mean they may be bigger than the d series that not a good comparison.. IF you want a solid block thats na.... look for turbo diesel engines that were converted over to be used as gasoline engines. ie.. The jetta vr6 block. not only is there block think but there rods are pretty hefty too. i would also bet most of the quality german made engines are pretty hefty. Like bmw, just lower compression add boost and i bet it would last forever also.

skittersk8er 05-09-2006 02:22 PM

Re: Built for Boost
 
my friends ls had 22 lbs daily driven for like 4 months then it went poop.almost any d series can handle 10 lbs on a small to meduim sized turbo with a good tune. thatswhere its at is teh tune. ive ben runnin 10 to 15 lbs on my d16y8 with a 48 60 t3 now for about 3 months on a base map that runs real rich. just seein how far i can push it cuz i got back ups in the mail(eagle rods new srp pistons blah blah blah) and its stock all the way cept for exhaust.

91efate 05-09-2006 06:54 PM

Re: Built for Boost
 
bmw str8 6 is the "the german RB26" my father had a 99' M3 coupe with a mossleman turbo kit, it ran for 3 years no problems and smoked the doors off many porsches etc. damn i miss that car

X_Josh411_X 05-09-2006 06:56 PM

Re: Built for Boost
 
I like the 4G63 engines. with those cast iron blocks, they're like tanks, cant destroy em.

HMTdmc 05-09-2006 07:00 PM

Re: Built for Boost
 

Originally Posted by dastinker8
those stock blocks that come in cars arent really ment for boost that you guys listed.. i mean cmon look at the rods in the ls... three dinky..i mean they may be bigger than the d series that not a good comparison.. IF you want a solid block thats na.... look for turbo diesel engines that were converted over to be used as gasoline engines. ie.. The jetta vr6 block. not only is there block think but there rods are pretty hefty too. i would also bet most of the quality german made engines are pretty hefty. Like bmw, just lower compression add boost and i bet it would last forever also.

the 1990 bmw 318is motor has forged rods stock.

HondaTuner 05-09-2006 07:01 PM

Re: Built for Boost
 

Originally Posted by X_Josh411_X
I like the 4G63 engines. with those cast iron blocks, they're like tanks, cant destroy em.

:y

Is the rumor true that "most" (say like.. 1990 and above, im not sure) Nissan engines have forged rods, pistons and crank?

X_Josh411_X 05-09-2006 07:46 PM

Re: Built for Boost
 

Originally Posted by SinisterCRX
:y

Is the rumor true that "most" (say like.. 1990 and above, im not sure) Nissan engines have forged rods, pistons and crank?

I've heard that but never had any experience with nissan really. I swapped an SR20 into a 240 but never opened up the motor. I do know that the RB series (skyline motor) they tested the factory internals/block and it with held all the boost nissan could throw at it. basically indestructable.

Pavlo 05-09-2006 09:46 PM

Re: Built for Boost
 
BMW can handles lots of boost, stock turbo M3 can handle about 600whp stock. D series is indestructible even at its limit, oh and nissan's ka24 can handle 300whp + with good/decent tunning (forged rodas and crank).

91efate 05-09-2006 09:55 PM

Re: Built for Boost
 
my dads M3 made 468 on all stock internals and aftermarket headgasket.

accordepicenter 05-09-2006 10:32 PM

Re: Built for Boost
 
ive had my accords stock 135k mile A20A3 engine to 13psi with spikes to 16-17psi on pump gas over 2 seasons, ive had it boosted for nearly 3 years though. I recently lost the engine due to bearing carnage but other than that the compression is 175psi across the board.

QikEnuF 05-10-2006 04:12 PM

Re: Built for Boost
 

Originally Posted by Pavlo
BMW can handles lots of boost, stock turbo M3 can handle about 600whp stock. D series is indestructible even at its limit, oh and nissan's ka24 can handle 300whp + with good/decent tunning (forged rodas and crank).

Umm, maybe you haven't actually looked at the specs on an S54 motor. 11.5:1 SCR is boost friendly? I didn't know that. Maybe you know more about them than I do, but there is a jet black E46 m3 vert sitting in the garage. And there are few (if any) boosted E46 m3's making over 500whp, let alone 600. I am just wondering where you found a boosted S54 making 600whp on a stock motor. Don't post garbage, some people may believe you.

Henry

Slo_crx1 05-10-2006 06:00 PM

Re: Built for Boost
 

Originally Posted by X_Josh411_X
I like the 4G63 engines. with those cast iron blocks, they're like tanks, cant destroy em.

Unless you crank walk, or have anything other than the 6 bolt bottom to try and make serious power. Then they explode very nicely :P

xternal 05-10-2006 06:07 PM

Re: Built for Boost
 

Originally Posted by X_Josh411_X
I like the 4G63 engines. with those cast iron blocks, they're like tanks, cant destroy em.

If memory serves me right the vr4 '88 RS model came with forged pistons.
But yea the 4g63 is one hory sounding machine 8)


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