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CivicRacerX7 10-30-2005 04:55 PM

Boost leak vs Faulty WG
 
To start off I have an SS AUTOCRAP 35mm (I think) wastegate

Its been doing great right on the 10 psi mark as the spring is 10 psi
today something weird starts happenin Im gettin EXACTLY 3 PSI everytime

I pulled over and checked for loose charge pipes or loose connectors everything is looking good and tight

I know SSAC is crap has anyone had any problems with this WG doing funky stuff like this?
How could the spring have gotten damaged ro something?

Im clueless Guess I'll buy a TIAL I need a 35 MM right or will the 38MM bolt right on
My current setup
http://img432.imageshack.us/img432/79/mvc335s1qm.jpg


d0nfry 10-30-2005 06:11 PM

Re: Boost leak vs Faulty WG
 
u have a vacuum source hooked up to the wg right? its not in the pic. i'd open it up and look at the diaphram, make sure everythings workin. also, could your bov be leaking?

CivicRacerX7 10-30-2005 06:26 PM

Re: Boost leak vs Faulty WG
 
yea its hooked up

and no the bov isnt leaking

djfob 10-30-2005 06:40 PM

Re: Boost leak vs Faulty WG
 
pull the vac source off the WG and see if it'll go past 3 psi, keep your eye on the boost gauge since you don't want to over do it ;)

CivicRacerX7 10-31-2005 08:02 AM

Re: Boost leak vs Faulty WG
 
did that this morning only 3psi again

so I pulled the vac off the BOV
and 3psi is all and it still blows off??????

I noticed that when I plug and unplug the vac line that the bov would pop in and out

its an OBX wonder if its fucked

im getting exactly 3psi no matter what

90accordIHI 10-31-2005 09:03 AM

Re: Boost leak vs Faulty WG
 
u hsve a leak somewhere

ComputerJLT 10-31-2005 09:41 AM

Re: Boost leak vs Faulty WG
 
can you hear the turbo? does it sound like its working a lot harder than it used to? if so you have a boost leak.. if its not trying as hard and spools slow and much later than its an exhaust problem.

EASIEST way to test for aboost leaks is to take the filter off the turbo put your hand over it with the engine running and see if it pulls a hard vaccum. My BOV was leaking so bad that i could do that and there was no change in the motor. fixed all that up and now you can put your hand over it and it pulls a hard vaccum pretty quick.

d0nfry 10-31-2005 11:33 AM

Re: Boost leak vs Faulty WG
 
u might have to fuk w/ the spring inside the wastegate, pull it out so its longer or something and has more tension, i'm thinkin after 3 psi it starts to give way. if not that then you have a leak somewhere.

turboDA6 10-31-2005 11:59 AM

Re: Boost leak vs Faulty WG
 
SSAUTOCRAP TO THE RESCUE!!!!!!


why do you fags buy this ---- then complain n ask why its not working right? you asked for it, buy a real wg

ComputerJLT 10-31-2005 02:03 PM

Re: Boost leak vs Faulty WG
 

Originally Posted by turboDA6
SSAUTOCRAP TO THE RESCUE!!!!!!


why do you fags buy this ---- then complain n ask why its not working right? you asked for it, buy a real wg

yea fucktard; we dont even know if its the wastegate that is the problem. there are a trillion things that can go wrong in a turbocharged vehicle to cause it to loose boost.
there is nothing wrong w/ the ssauto wastegate. i've been using mine for a while now and its great. BTW i seem to see more tial wg problem threads on h-t than i do knockoff problems

turboDA6 10-31-2005 02:30 PM

Re: Boost leak vs Faulty WG
 
if you say so kiddo. ssauto speaks for its self. replacing that would be a start. if all connections are good on the piping it could only be 2 other things, bov or wg. especially if it was workin fine then all of a sudden "3psi"... im gonna assume its the bov since he said it was still blowing off with no vac source. but either way, it wouldn't hurt to not use ssauto products. you've seen all the horror stories.

yeah, im a fucktard; but you two are using ssauto products lol.

ComputerJLT 10-31-2005 02:39 PM

Re: Boost leak vs Faulty WG
 

Originally Posted by turboDA6
if you say so kiddo. ssauto speaks for its self. replacing that would be a start. if all connections are good on the piping it could only be 2 other things, bov or wg. especially if it was workin fine then all of a sudden "3psi"... im gonna assume its the bov since he said it was still blowing off with no vac source. but either way, it wouldn't hurt to not use ssauto products. you've seen all the horror stories.

yeah, im a fucktard; but you two are using ssauto products lol.

yea you're a fucktard for jumping on the ssauto sucks bandwagon; its true their manifolds are iffy but tons of people have had good luck with their blowoff valves and wastegates. and like i said fucktard there are a thousand things that can go wrong. Why dont you go back to honda-tech and feel special that you wasted money on bling blang name brand parts

turboDA6 10-31-2005 02:59 PM

Re: Boost leak vs Faulty WG
 
your a ------ idiot. im dissapointed you even mentioned "ssauto band wagon". i've seen there products crap out in person so i dont jus go off articles i read online. you think he gets all his complaints by bandwagoners? and your tellin me to go back to honda-tech... you mentioned that place in both of your last 2 post's. what's wrong can't live without them? i've only been on honda-tech about 4 times, when hmt kept gettin hacked months back n was down for a while. i was on honda-tech in the hmt thread lol

why the ---- you running your mouth so much about a problem that aint even yours... i made a suggestion to his problem. his wg. i even agree's it may not be his wg n most likely is his bov. still could be his wg.

what are you his boyfriend or sumthing? your stickin up for him more then ur cock does when u see a nakid chick. bitch.

ComputerJLT 10-31-2005 03:09 PM

Re: Boost leak vs Faulty WG
 

Originally Posted by turboDA6
your a ------ idiot. im dissapointed you even mentioned "ssauto band wagon". i've seen there products crap out in person so i dont jus go off articles i read online. you think he gets all his complaints by bandwagoners? and your tellin me to go back to honda-tech... you mentioned that place in both of your last 2 post's. what's wrong can't live without them? i've only been on honda-tech about 4 times, when hmt kept gettin hacked months back n was down for a while. i was on honda-tech in the hmt thread lol

why the ---- you running your mouth so much about a problem that aint even yours... i made a suggestion to his problem. his wg. i even agree's it may not be his wg n most likely is his bov. still could be his wg.

what are you his boyfriend or sumthing? your stickin up for him more then ur cock does when u see a nakid chick. bitch.

Look mr. 4th grade english dropout; you said and i quote:

Originally Posted by turboDA6
SSAUTOCRAP TO THE RESCUE!!!!!!


why do you fags buy this ---- then complain n ask why its not working right? you asked for it, buy a real wg

Lets see here; you, most likely without even reading the thread; because you either couldn't or were too horny to flame with your "im better cus i spend money" badge you got by being a pay to play ricer; you assumed it was his wg had died because it was an ssauto.
How about next time instead of confiding in your shiney expensive parts you read into a problem and offer acutal help instead of showing us all how special you are because spend money.

turboDA6 10-31-2005 03:18 PM

Re: Boost leak vs Faulty WG
 
your an idiot. i read everything and assumed his wg had crapped out... i spent less on my whole setup then you prolly did on yours. used products are your friend, ssauto is not. cheap but for a reason. the only "new" product i bought was a fuelpump. why? my used 300zxTT fuel pump crapped out on me.

he's using an obx bov and an ssauto wg, no matter what you say to me i bet its one or the other thats leaking. either the diaphragm on the bov is leaking or the spring got soggy and is opening up at 3psi. or the same thing could be happening with his wg.

go back to honda-tech kid, or back to GT4

HMT-Admin 10-31-2005 04:02 PM

Re: Boost leak vs Faulty WG
 

Originally Posted by turboDA6
yeah, im a fucktard; but you two are using ssauto products lol.

So I'm running SSauto products on 2 of my cars, does this mean maybe I'm a fucktard? ::)

This problem should be pretty easy to isolate.

1. Take the wastegate off and push the bottom of the valve on the gate. It should be pretty hard to push in. If its really soft take the 6 bolts off the top of the Wastegate and take a look at the spring. Make sure it didnt break or somehow or got weak from the heat (which I highly doubt) If the wastegate looks ok put it back on.

2. Check all the charge pipes, check all the couplers for little rips etc. Especially the ones behind the bumper because they can be hard to see.

3. If you have already removed the wastegate signal line are you still getting 3psi, listen to the turbo and see if it changes sound when the signal line is off (like if the turbo is spooling louder/harder) this will just tell you that the wastegate is working.

4. Your Bov, take it off, again feel how easy it is to push up on the valve, see if it feels weak. It should be pretty tight to hold the boost. If you have dissconnected the BOV signal line and the thing is still blowing off you have a werid problem. Because the valve works off vaccum not boost =) I'd try just blocking it off, maybe throw a chunk of hose on it, and throw a big bolt with a clamp.

The only problems I've heard about the SS auto gates were a few diaphrams ripping. And were only talking about a few here. I've seen maybe 6 or 7 threads on HT about them. Does that mean all of his stuff is ----? I dunno, but I hate when people all jump on a bandwagon. It's well known his manifolds are crap but some of his other products are not that bad, and especially for the price.

Jeff

CivicRacerX7 10-31-2005 04:19 PM

Re: Boost leak vs Faulty WG
 
well just to clear things up the problem is solved I took close attenton to every silicone connector on my charge piping and found a loose on on the underside of the pass side
so Im back to normal and the ss autochrome wg is working JUST FINE
as well as the braced manifold

didnt mean to start a riot just wasnt sure what was going on


thanks for the help anyways

turboDA6 10-31-2005 04:22 PM

Re: Boost leak vs Faulty WG
 

Originally Posted by AbaZ
I hate when people all jump on a bandwagon.

i dont consider it bandwagon. i consider it personal opinion. my opinion may change cuz im testing one of there intercoolers. may not be exactly there's but all the online knock off ---- is basically ssauto. i dunno if ill try the wg tho. just dont like the feeling behind using one...


either way jeff, you got yours for free so why wouldn't you use it ::)

LSD Motorsports 10-31-2005 04:23 PM

Re: Boost leak vs Faulty WG
 

Originally Posted by CivicRacerX7
well just to clear things up the problem is solved I took close attenton to every silicone connector on my charge piping and found a loose on on the underside of the pass side
so Im back to normal and the ss autochrome wg is working JUST FINE
as well as the braced manifold

didnt mean to start a riot just wasnt sure what was going on


thanks for the help anyways

Glad u got it figured out man, little leaks underneath or sometimes hard to find unless u get ur hand close by and sometimes thats not always easy. What kind of clamps you got on there? Make sure u tighten em up real good so they dont come off again.

HMT-Admin 10-31-2005 04:30 PM

Re: Boost leak vs Faulty WG
 

Originally Posted by turboDA6

either way jeff, you got yours for free so why wouldn't you use it ::)

I actually wanted to BUY them from him just for the sole purpose of me testing his products and reviewing them for YOU the members. But he ended up giving me all the ---- for free. So ya, obvioulsy I'm going to use it.

Isnt that what this website is about? using stuff that doesnt cost much but still works? if his products do work, then I will recommend them. I just hate people bashing a product they have never used, and just preach what other people have said about them on other websites. Call it a bandwagon or your "personal opinion" reguardless you have no experience working with his products, so why make the guy in this thread feel like a dumbass for buying SSAuto stuff?


hotrex 10-31-2005 04:35 PM

Re: Boost leak vs Faulty WG
 
im with jeff, i used one previously, and ill be using one again. if your so certain the wg is ----.. sell it to me mad cheap :6

turboDA6 10-31-2005 04:57 PM

Re: Boost leak vs Faulty WG
 
wasn't tryin to make him feel like a dumbass for buying it. it was a wide open comment, i see different post through out the days of someone asking why there ssauto product crapped out. going from manifolds, which ive seen personally crack but i guess you can blame me n my friend for not bracing it right? then to multiple threads on there turbo's crapping out, compressor wheels falling off, seals blowing out anywhere within 5 mins to 5 miles. some last some dont, i'd jus hate to see me or anyone else spend 250 on a cheaper turbo hopin for it to be one of the ones that dont crap out so soon. im sure not all his products are ----, n yeah hmt is about cheaper products that get the job done. so after your review on his products, if all is well. ill be snaggin a wg.

d0nfry 10-31-2005 11:59 PM

Re: Boost leak vs Faulty WG
 

Originally Posted by d0nfry
u might have to fuk w/ the spring inside the wastegate, pull it out so its longer or something and has more tension, i'm thinkin after 3 psi it starts to give way. if not that then you have a leak somewhere.

sry wastegate= bov


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