Boost but no pull???
 

Im running a ebay turbo kit on my b16 in my rex....its all hooked up...wastegate aand mechanical boost controller is tee'd with brakebooster...
bov hooked to fpr line.......it spools and the bov goes off and all....it goes to 5psi....but the damn thing jus doesnt seem to pull...im running an open dp till i go to the muffler shop.....could that be the prob??


and when the car idles air isnt coming out of the wasegate......but with i rev the motor and let out the gas...air comes outta the wasegate....i dont have a dumptube...im jus running it open.....

Dont know wtf is going on

Re: Boost but no pull???
 

fuel management, what are you using?

Re: Boost but no pull???
 

nothing right now...i jus got it hooked up and took it for a test run

But I have some 450's and a jackson racing fpr....also some cam gears, that i have yet to put on
other than that stock....till i get some tuning

Re: Boost but no pull???
 

one dont do that again. Your not going to make any power has you dont have the fuel to get the motor what it needs all your going to do is break the motor. Atleast hook up the fmu its a couple hoses and will take 10 minutes

Re: Boost but no pull???
 

well i disconnected the coolant temp sensor to trick it full rich for the mean time.....so is it ok that the wasegate is letting exhaust out when i let off the gas....??
I thought its only at WOT......

my vacuum lines are good...right?

Re: Boost but no pull???
 

Sounds like your WG is connected to the turbo housing, not to the intake manifold. I'm guessing that with no vacuum/pressure when you let off the throttle, the pressure in the exhaust manifold is enough to open it slightly.

As for not running management...I don't think thats an issue. Why? W/o a long intake tube for the turbo while running NO DUMP TUBE, you are sucking in lots of 'dead air' when you produce boost. That means 5psi out of the 19.7psi of absolute pressure that your engine is seeing has no oxygen. You make power with more oxygen in the cylinder, not more exhaust gases in the cylinder like you're getting now.

Cliffs: your WG isn't hooked up right, you need to get tuned, and you need a dumptube. :8

Re: Boost but no pull???
 

where do I hook the wastegate up to??

Ive been searching and cant get a solid answer

Re: Boost but no pull???
 

A vacuum source off the intake manifold. Preferrebly its own rather than a t and "sharring".

Re: Boost but no pull???
 

To the same place your MAP sensor and gauge are reading pressure - your intake manifold (after the throttle body).

When you blow your motor, I'll buy the ruined B16 head for $100 shipped. I mean it'll only be worth $20 to you as recycled aluminum anyways. :1

Re: Boost but no pull???
 

well I have the lower nipple on the wasegate vacuum going into the boostcontroller and from there to the brakebooster.....thats tee'd off so my boost gauge can hook there too....


the BOV is tee'd off the FPR line.....

sound good?

Re: Boost but no pull???
 

I have told you twice that the gate goes to the mani

Re: Boost but no pull???
 

and never ever ever tap the map sensor for any vacuum sources





ever ever ever ever

Re: Boost but no pull???
 

all your vac / boost sources should come from the intake manifold.

Re: Boost but no pull???
 

so your saying that thats not a vacuum source???? im confueseeed

Re: Boost but no pull???
 

so its not a good idea to hook up the wastgate to the compressor housing ? thats how mine is hooked up never had any issues i may try the intake manifold to see if there is any diffrence

Re: Boost but no pull???
 

i dont have a nipple on the compressor houseing
the car just doesnt pull.....something isnt hooked up right......
is there any diagrams anyone has that i can look at?


my car runs like ----.....when i get to 5 psi....my engine light comes on....code 3 ( mapsensor)
and it spits and sputters.....

the damn car is slower than it was b4 turbo....

it takes the boost a while to build up to 5 psi.....it doesnt pull..

something is wrong......

and wtf is check valve

Re: Boost but no pull???
 

well #1 no check valve if your map reads boost is should ---- its self
2. im a noob my self but do us a favor dont be an ingnorant prick
and blow your motor ur the reason noobs look bad.
3. If you want to blow your motor buy and fmu so atleast you can
feel boost before you ---- ---- up.
4.Good luck with the build ;D

Re: Boost but no pull???
 

I do notice tho that with my car at idle and i rev it up a little....the bov whistles for a while after the car goes back down to 700 rpm....doesnt that supposed to stay shut until your boosting and let off?

Re: Boost but no pull???
 

mine use to blow off and wistle when in nutral b/c at vac it should be open mine would open just a crack but it was enough to wistle

Re: Boost but no pull???
 

O..ok i thought something was wrong.....
well im looking for the missing link right now...and im installing my FPR, 450's and cam gears 2morrow....

I really want the turboedit.....since mine is obd0 and i dont feel like going though a obd converstion...
i jus wanna run 8 psi .....safely....

until then i'll rock the 450's and fpr on 5psi

Re: Boost but no pull???
 

if i were you i would just wait and take my time your can really ---- ---- up this way its better do it once and do it right then to do it twice

Re: Boost but no pull???
 

thats true....im lookin for the turboedit program right now

Re: Boost but no pull???
 

Seriously just chip the ECU and tho a basemap on it. You said you already have 450's.

Re: Boost but no pull???
 

your a ------- idiot why waste your time and money by driving the car with out fuel management. 450's help when you have fuel management and fpr isnt FM niether are cam gears you tool. like every one else said go get some FM atleast a ------- fmu and msd boost retarder if your not gonna use turbo edit. let me repeat again dont drive your car its not gonna have any pull without management and your gonna break your ----

Re: Boost but no pull???
 

With how ------- easy it is now I dont see why the ---- there is still people out there like this. Before I did anything to my engine, I swapped out a obd1 computer chipped on crome and 450s, (on a N/A motor)!! Why you ask? Because of all the ---- I could of installed first, (pistons, rods, turbo, etc.).. The easiest thing to hookup is the fuel management.

Re: Boost but no pull???
 

if you have no fuel management then stay in vacuum --> atmos

Re: Boost but no pull???
 

why would you look for a missing link if you are going to run turbo edit ???

Re: Boost but no pull???
 

I did the same... Converted to obd1 and ran crome w/450s on a stock zc... Ran like a champ

Re: Boost but no pull???
 

If you notice the guy named Chris has stopped trying to heklp you because you are a failure at reading. your car runs like ass because there is nothing compensating for the extra fuel needed. I love how you have no management but your avaitar is probably your boost gage going to 20 on an untuned engine. I give your ---- about a week before your ---- is done.

Congradulaltions you've ruined your ----

Re: Boost but no pull???
 

Look here you faggot.......
i buy ---- from chris all the time.....
my car is running 450's and an FMU.....
it pulls great now with 5 psi.....
nothing more nothing less.....
If the ------- motor goes then ---- it i will get another one.....


for what........700 or 800 dollars......

I mean wtf

This is a CRX we are talking about....not some ------- exotic supercar thats impossible to fix


this is a hobby.....you break it....fix it.....break it again...
I do not depend on this car for daily transport....you ----

Re: Boost but no pull???
 

cant we ban dumbass mother fuckers like this? All honda boards would be so much better without these stupid people on them.

Re: Boost but no pull???
 

Whatever man......