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heedlessdragger 09-25-2005 02:42 PM

blown turbo?
 
i had a pipe blow out yesterday so i went to put it back on and i notice there was a lot of oil in the piping andi also see some smoke off the turbo,does it mean i have a blown seal or something?anyway i can fix it without rebuilding it?how much do u guys think it would cost to rebuild it or just get a new setup?thanks

bumblezc 09-25-2005 06:20 PM

Re: blown turbo?
 
Huh,

You probably have a blown seal. Ya!! You have to go out and buy a whole new Greddy Kit!!!!




For real! Look on ebay for a rebuild kit. If you don't feel comfortable with rebuilding it yourself, send it out to someone who does it, buy a new/rebuilt turbo, or try you luck on a kunkyard unit.

xternal 09-26-2005 04:35 PM

Re: blown turbo?
 
What turbo are you running?
If its a bit on the smaller side of things your best to buy a t3..If you're not already running one 8)

heedlessdragger 09-26-2005 04:40 PM

Re: blown turbo?
 
i have a dsm t25,damn i have to change everything now,cuz the turbo is welded to the adapter and the manifold has bigger threads in the hole,i wonder what if i keep driving it what would happen?damn i cant belive the turbo got fucked up,it had no shaft play at all...

turboDA6 09-26-2005 04:45 PM

Re: blown turbo?
 

Originally Posted by heedlessdragger
i have a dsm t25,damn i have to change everything now,cuz the turbo is welded to the adapter and the manifold has bigger threads in the hole,i wonder what if i keep driving it what would happen?damn i cant belive the turbo got fucked up,it had no shaft play at all...

does it have any shaft play now? my setup always had some oil in the charge piping n my turbo was brand spankin new lol... dude u needa jus let me check out ur setup n help u plan for ur new setup...

heedlessdragger 09-26-2005 05:08 PM

Re: blown turbo?
 
i justed check,theres no shft play and could putting more oil leak out the turbo?

xternal 09-26-2005 05:29 PM

Re: blown turbo?
 
Did you put your fingers on both ends of the compressor and exuast wheels , then move them in the same direction?
If there is any play your seals are most probably fuked. :-\
same as what happened to me

heedlessdragger 09-26-2005 05:37 PM

Re: blown turbo?
 

Originally Posted by xternal
Did you put your fingers on both ends of the compressor and exuast wheels , then move them in the same direction?
If there is any play your seals are most probably fuked. :-\
same as what happened to me

u mean by taking it apart?i just my finger on one end and it didnt move

xternal 09-27-2005 07:37 PM

Re: blown turbo?
 
Yeh take the downpipe of so you can reach the exuast wheel.
Then try move it horizontally togther with the compressor wheel and if there is play its probably stuffed.

djfob 09-27-2005 08:07 PM

Re: blown turbo?
 
try putting a restrictor on or use a valve to adjust pressure, might help

sixsick6 09-27-2005 09:06 PM

Re: blown turbo?
 
Where do you live? I live in San Diego as well and have been rebuilding turbos for quite some time. If you take the whole thing off, I can test the center cartridge as well as replace any seals that need to be replaced.

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...?topic=48230.0

I know what I'm doing.

bluesiflynby 09-27-2005 10:17 PM

Re: blown turbo?
 
bro im going through that same ---- now i found out bc one of my couplers had a smakk tear causing a nasty boost leak. so i pull off the bumper and aww fuckidy ---- oil all over the inside of my ----.. so i took the feed line off and capped the return and drove it til it locked .. just kindding bro dont do that, thats not nice, bro all i can say is that sucks i feel ya.. time for a bigger turbo anywayz. but now im going to have to make a new ------- dp.

heedlessdragger 09-28-2005 01:10 PM

Re: blown turbo?
 

Originally Posted by bluesiflynby
bro im going through that same ---- now i found out bc one of my couplers had a smakk tear causing a nasty boost leak. so i pull off the bumper and aww fuckidy ---- oil all over the inside of my ----.. so i took the feed line off and capped the return and drove it til it locked .. just kindding bro dont do that, thats not nice, bro all i can say is that sucks i feel ya.. time for a bigger turbo anywayz. but now im going to have to make a new ------- dp.

i know it sucks

bluesiflynby 09-28-2005 09:09 PM

Re: blown turbo?
 
bro just put your stock mani back on and cap your oil feed and return so you can at least drive yo ----, na mean.. your car will be kinda slow from what your yousd to but ---- at least you can drive that mo fo..

igy 09-29-2005 12:29 AM

Re: blown turbo?
 
If you had piping blow out, then it is probable that your turbo over spooled/spun/revved. in most cases, if it is for a short period of time, it will cause some oil to bypass the seals. In your case with no shaft play I would drive it and see if the oil burns off and everything goes back to normal.

NBLKID 09-29-2005 12:50 AM

Re: blown turbo?
 

Originally Posted by djfob
try putting a restrictor on or use a valve to adjust pressure, might help

this helped out in my civic alot, when i was having the same sort of problems after i already went through one turbo....

turboDA6 09-29-2005 01:29 PM

Re: blown turbo?
 
Anyone else chime in on this to make him feel more confident on what the problem is...

I checked out his car in person. these were a few of the problems i noticed so if u agree with anything i was suggesting go ahead n state ur opinion.

1st - i noticed his oil return like wasn't kink'd but was almost like a U but not really a U, but it went down then curv'd back up again..

2nd - his return like on the oil pan was at the bottom of the pan, return lines are supposed to be as high as possible on the pan, since its not he's getting oil backup in his return line causing oil in his charge pipes/smoking around turbo.

3rd - boost leak wise, there's a hole in the charge piping that was "sealed" with some E-Tape... under pressure the E tape will be no match up against pressured air thus being a leak. multiple home depot couplers were used which in my opinion shouldn't be and some couplers even had tape on them makin me think they had holes in tem?

4th - Not really causing any problems as we speak but it can... Oil Line is ran under the engine along the pan near the ground and is dangling down. if anything catches it it can be desasterous and rubber hot charge pipe goes under the frame which is already showing wear from being dragged/scrapped on the ground. few more times n its done for..

fixing these issues i think would get rid of his problems...

sixsick6 09-29-2005 02:03 PM

Re: blown turbo?
 

Originally Posted by turboDA6
Anyone else chime in on this to make him feel more confident on what the problem is...

I checked out his car in person. these were a few of the problems i noticed so if u agree with anything i was suggesting go ahead n state ur opinion.

1st - i noticed his oil return like wasn't kink'd but was almost like a U but not really a U, but it went down then curv'd back up again..

2nd - his return like on the oil pan was at the bottom of the pan, return lines are supposed to be as high as possible on the pan, since its not he's getting oil backup in his return line causing oil in his charge pipes/smoking around turbo.

3rd - boost leak wise, there's a hole in the charge piping that was "sealed" with some E-Tape... under pressure the E tape will be no match up against pressured air thus being a leak. multiple home depot couplers were used which in my opinion shouldn't be and some couplers even had tape on them makin me think they had holes in tem?

4th - Not really causing any problems as we speak but it can... Oil Line is ran under the engine along the pan near the ground and is dangling down. if anything catches it it can be desasterous and rubber hot charge pipe goes under the frame which is already showing wear from being dragged/scrapped on the ground. few more times n its done for..

fixing these issues i think would get rid of his problems...

1) Gravity is your friend, if you're routing the return piping down, then keep it going down.

2) Nothing like a low pressure line draining into a full pan. I'm suprised this didn't happen sooner/slap whomever welded your return fitting that low on your pan. If it was you, slap yourself.

3) Electrical tape? Are you kidding me? lol Pressure leaks are not fixed with tape, they're fixed with piping that doesn't have holes.

4) Nothing like losing all of your oil through a home made oil fitting. Silly ricer.

Fix your car before you don't have one to fix. This is the exact reason why I hate to warranty my turbo rebuilds. Not because I don't trust my work, but because of newbs who hack things together and when it breaks, blame the maker.

2stockrocketz 10-02-2005 02:29 PM

Re: blown turbo?
 

Originally Posted by turboDA6


1st - i noticed his oil return like wasn't kink'd but was almost like a U but not really a U, but it went down then curv'd back up again..

2nd - his return like on the oil pan was at the bottom of the pan, return lines are supposed to be as high as possible on the pan, since its not he's getting oil backup in his return line causing oil in his charge pipes/smoking around turbo.

3rd - boost leak wise, there's a hole in the charge piping that was "sealed" with some E-Tape... under pressure the E tape will be no match up against pressured air thus being a leak. multiple home depot couplers were used which in my opinion shouldn't be and some couplers even had tape on them makin me think they had holes in tem?

4th - Not really causing any problems as we speak but it can... Oil Line is ran under the engine along the pan near the ground and is dangling down. if anything catches it it can be desasterous and rubber hot charge pipe goes under the frame which is already showing wear from being dragged/scrapped on the ground. few more times n its done for..

fixing these issues i think would get rid of his problems...

i think its the return line, i had a lil bend in my and duing idle oil would buid up and when i gased it i would get a cloud of smoke. One day my charge pipe came off and i had oil in it....after i shortend the return line(to get rid of "slope") both problems went away










turboDa6 and heedlessdragger we need to meet up and fix your return line (and put my intercooler on)

turboDA6 10-02-2005 06:46 PM

Re: blown turbo?
 
haha yeah dude. we should get together, im bout to install my ic, lets all help eachother in installing our ic's n fixing the return line. seriously how bout next weekend? i really wanna install this biatch already.

heedlessdragger 10-02-2005 11:11 PM

Re: blown turbo?
 

Originally Posted by turboDA6
haha yeah dude. we should get together, im bout to install my ic, lets all help eachother in installing our ic's n fixing the return line. seriously how bout next weekend? i really wanna install this biatch already.

yeah we should,i think that coupler helped,i will test it out tomorrow,when i was racing i had no time looking at the boost gauge,so i should just cutthe return line so thers no bends?damn i probably need a new pan huh?i hope just the "L" shape line would help,i trusted my friend when he put on the kit for me so i didnt think about it. i guess hes no turbo expert!


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