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block guard
I am building a D16Y8 motor. I want to put in a block guard, but I have things about them, like not cooling the top of the cylinder. Anyone have Ideals?
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blockguards are the bigget POS. use block posting. its FAR better.
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Dear god, please don't use a blockguard!!!!!!!!
They are ------- worthless pieces of ----. They are just as worthless as neon lights and windsahield washer squirter lights. The only difference is the blockguard will ---- your motor up while the queer lights will ---- your cool factor up. I posted a while back my experiences with a blockguard. If you like working on your motor and don't mind overheating problems and have a huge pile of caSh that is getting too big to fit in your house, than go ahead and get a blockguard, but don't say I didn't warn you. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED __________________ Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote |
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>:(DONT GET A BLOCKGUARD! I'm using one right now and I cant idle for one minute before my car overheats, and everything is working fine, it sucks ass especially if you have a timer its even worst to have a blockuard.
I think the companies who advertises them to alow maximum cooling should refund our money, for the blockguard, complete head gasket set, and labour, PIECE OF ----! >:( |
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Sounds like you have the same problems as me. We should sue the hell out of them. I have tore my head of three times now and right this moment my head is off awaiting a new gasket. I had to turn my timer off because if it sat there too long it would overheat like a mo fo. >:( I even drilled the blockguard as far as I could to allow more coolant. Those holes are as big as they can be and it still overheats. >:(
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would you blockgaurd-haters mind stating what brand blockgaurd you're using/have used and what motor it was on?
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get some darton sleeves.
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I would hate to aid you in the purchase of a blockguard, but here you go http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2418424885 this is the one I used. I guess you aren't going to listen to us and you are going to go ahead and ---- your motor up? Good luck and have fun changing head haskets. You will learn to do it in less than an hour after a while. ::)
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I'm SERIEOUS we probably can win this case! after all this is AMERICA..
they should pay for our troubles for using a blockguard1 |
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this is a REAL good block guard STR
http://www.guideauto.com/AlbumPhoto/...te81110098.JPG it's mine :P |
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I'm sure that one flows better than mine, but I don't trust them anymore. Are you running that motor yet?
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Yeah, I would sue all of them in a class action suit that they are involved in false advertising. I'll be your lawyer since I don't have a blockgaurd, but would still like some cash. ;)
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Originally Posted by Garrett
this is a REAL good block guard STR
http://www.guideauto.com/AlbumPhoto/...te81110098.JPG it's mine :P |
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lets email the companies, and get our money back, I'm doing as soon as I got off this forum.
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Mine has been in for too long now. :'( Plus i bought it off ebay. :-\
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Do you think the motor would handle 10 psi without problem?
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Do you think that blockguard is going to stop it if it can't? Are you going to have the blockguard welded and machined in and get the block honed afterwards?
With good tuning your block/rods can handle as much boost as you can throw at it. I would say if you were a decent street tuner you could run 10 psi with no problems. If you would like overheating problems to go along with whatever problems you might already be faced with than instal the blockguard. I would hate to see someone go through what I myself and so many others have gone through. I can guarentee you the blockguard will only cause you problems. __________________ Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote |
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Thanks Dr. Boost, out with the blockguard idea.
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Woooooooooooo Hooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!
I did a good dead for the day!!!! Wooooooooooo Hoooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!! Glad I could save a potential victim of the dreaded blockguard. ;D __________________ Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote |
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I dont think I will have a problem holding boost with JE pistons and Eagle rods.
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Hell no you won't. Just tune it good.
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STR is the best...
i have a frend in NYC who has a 11.6 second turbo GSR civic.....and he has the stock sleeves with a STR blockguard. he has 9.1:1 pistons and Rods.........and he rand the car for over a year till the motor blew...he took it apart just to find out one of the valves flew, and he repared the head and put the block back together with new pistons & rings...same rods........and the car is FINE.....and trust me...HE ABUSE THAT CAR LIKE HELL.......he had to rebuid the turbo (T3/T4) like every 2-3 months....cuz of all the abuse....and he delievers pizza (job) in it....AND, drives to skool and work in it DAILY. based on his luck..i am gettin a BLOCK GUARD..STR |
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yo guys i 've been reading mixed reaction about the block guard. for some has worked for other has not ....................... now i know every body has installed it a way different than others...now what i think is since the head basically sucks the coolant off the water jacket, putting the block guard to close to the top of the deck.meaning flush with the deck... :Pduhhh :P...might be limiting the water flow. now what if by putting the guard lower in the sleves (cracks are known to start lower in the sleves) the coolant flow wont be as limited since its gona be a reserve pool right above the guard, witch by theory is supposed to keep the volume constant.......................................... .........................im gona go ahead and try an experiment, i will use a combination of posting and a block guard. i already ordered the post and guard. i will start on it this weekend.....keep yall posted 8)
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Originally Posted by alldriver28
yo guys i 've been reading mixed reaction about the block guard. for some has worked for other has not ....................... now i know every body has installed it a way different than others...now what i think is since the head basically sucks the coolant off the water jacket, putting the block guard to close to the top of the deck.meaning flush with the deck... :Pduhhh :P...might be limiting the water flow. now what if by putting the guard lower in the sleves (cracks are known to start lower in the sleves) the coolant flow wont be as limited since its gona be a reserve pool right above the guard, witch by theory is supposed to keep the volume constant.......................................... .........................im gona go ahead and try an experiment, i will use a combination of posting and a block guard. i already ordered the post and guard. i will start on it this weekend.....keep yall posted 8)
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My blockguard is at least 1/2 inch below the deck surface and I still have problems. :'(
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i have heard of tricke like .. drilling holes in the thermostat, so that water is always circulating throughout the engine and radiator.....
you can also upgrade the Radiator to those metal lookin ones....and the fan also.... there are many things you can do....remember that even when you are running a turbo, you car will be running harder, hotter, etc.............so paying attention to the cooling system, might be a very good idea. |
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I have taken thermostat out, jumped fan wires to run constant, changed radiator twice. First one was a dual core metal. I have even turned the boost all the way down and tried to drive like an old person. Still overheating with the blockguard. I have lost all good feelings for blockguards. Blockguards=bad. >:(
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????dr.boost?????? which block guard do you have??? is it a knock off type design??? if it is u might be getting knock off type performance :(....and im not only putting the block guard lower i will also have it welded in to make a more solid estructure with key cooling holes drilled in ...........and remember we are all together in this so wish me luck ok.........i will surely need it ;)
ill keep ya "posted" ..........get it???? lmao |
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2418424885
This is the one I am using. I drilled the coolant holes as big as they would go. I don't know how much more material I could take out. I'm just going to go crazy on it and tear it out. I don't ever want to have to take this head off again. I have so many head gaskets laying around now. :-[ __________________ Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote |
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dr.boost .................. did u drilled holes all around it???how big where the holes ??.....im being very skeptical bout it, i suggest not to trow away the block guard idea just yet ........im working close with the machine shop to figure a way to improve on cooling by figuring the ideal spots where to drill....
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http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL77/1...3/27558910.jpg
Every hole in that bitch was drilled almost to the size of the valley. There isn't much blockguard left. I'm just going to drill it into nothing,hehehehe. ;D __________________ Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote |
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what we have in mind is actually a design kinda like the str but with "key improvement points" which with the help of the welded aluminum it should hold it steady ;)
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I got a nuformz off of my friends old car. I put it in cause it was free. More holes were drilled in for better cooling, but they are WAY smaller than that. I don't know if my motor before the rebuild was tired, but my car runs WAY cooler that before the rebuild (and block guard) the guage only goes up an average of 1/4 of the way up. Close to half way in heavy traffic, but never halfway.
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